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"History" Channel - Third Reich, the Fall (Original Post) unionworks Feb 2012 OP
I just watched it too... jorno67 Feb 2012 #1
it seemed to me unionworks Feb 2012 #2
but then they followed that jorno67 Feb 2012 #3
See the book "Hitler's Willing Executioners" from the late 80s. MarianJack Feb 2012 #5
I've seen it a few times Kwarg Feb 2012 #4
They always leave out the most important part: The NAZIs re-grouped. Here. In the U.S.A. Octafish Feb 2012 #6
Lol isn't there a special tinfoil hat subforum for stuff like thar? Nt Kwarg Feb 2012 #7
What part of it's not true, Kwarg? Octafish Feb 2012 #9
The goose stepping rank and file were manipulated expertly. bluerum Feb 2012 #8
My grandfather was a political prisoner in a Nazi concentration camp gopiscrap Feb 2012 #10
my beef unionworks Feb 2012 #11
Did you read my post above? Kwarg Feb 2012 #12
nonetheless unionworks Feb 2012 #13
 

unionworks

(3,574 posts)
2. it seemed to me
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 07:28 PM
Feb 2012

To be trying to channel sympathy away from houlocaust victims to the german civilian population. "The citikens of Dauchau voted against the Nazis...but were forced to bury the corpses at the camp". Boo hoo hoo like you didn't smell it, you lying bastards...

jorno67

(1,986 posts)
3. but then they followed that
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 07:43 PM
Feb 2012

With quote from US troop saying that the German people were responsible and lying if they claimed to not know.

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
5. See the book "Hitler's Willing Executioners" from the late 80s.
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 07:59 PM
Feb 2012

I believe that the German civilians knew what was going on to at least some extent.

PEACE!

 

Kwarg

(89 posts)
4. I've seen it a few times
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 07:57 PM
Feb 2012

And as one actually educated in WW2 history I can say I sympathize with all victims of war.

I sympathize with the millions of Jews and gypsies, homosexuals and socialists who were first dehumanized and then tortured and murdered.

I sympathize with the millions of Russians and Ukrainians killed by Stalin before and during the war including Russian POW's who were executed upon return to their homeland for cowardice.

I sympathize for millions of East Prussian women and children who were brutalized and killed by the Red horde advancing West.

And YES I sympathize with German civilians who were killed in terror bombings and due to inaction by their own leaders. I sympathize with the German foot soldier who was a mechanic who was worked to death for 10 years in a Soviet gulag after the war.

In fact I'm full of sympathy for ANYONE involved.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
9. What part of it's not true, Kwarg?
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 09:03 PM
Feb 2012

If there are errors in fact, let me know.

BTW: Welcome to DU.

bluerum

(6,109 posts)
8. The goose stepping rank and file were manipulated expertly.
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 08:40 PM
Feb 2012

Economic conditions created a desperate populace ready to act. Without jobs the military was a viable option.

gopiscrap

(23,761 posts)
10. My grandfather was a political prisoner in a Nazi concentration camp
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 09:12 PM
Feb 2012

Last edited Sat Feb 18, 2012, 11:47 PM - Edit history (1)

my mom grew up and I was bornb in Frankfurt am Main and according to my mom, they knew fucking well what was going on!!! But to allieviate that some, the mass of the German people were powerless to do anything about it. My mom said it was because when they had a chance when Hitler first came t power, they were silent, still reeling from World WarI and the Great Depression.

 

unionworks

(3,574 posts)
11. my beef
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 09:22 PM
Feb 2012

Isn't so much with german civilians as with the "History" channel. They spent much time crying about "atrocities" by the Red Army. Not a second of coverage to the resistance women of Poland and Russia tortured and hung by the S.S.. BULLSHIT

 

Kwarg

(89 posts)
12. Did you read my post above?
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 10:46 PM
Feb 2012

None of the players were honorable there... For every raped Russian there was a raped German civilian. The primary difference was discipline. The German Army terrorized Russian citizens as part of a plan and the Russians terrorized German civilians as an undisciplined mob.

SS=NKVD

And

Gestapo=smersh

And last but not least Stalin=hitler although I'm inclined to say Stalin was worse.

 

unionworks

(3,574 posts)
13. nonetheless
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 02:53 PM
Feb 2012

I have noticed a pronounced right wing slant in "History"s shows. I think it became obvious with "Larry the Cable Nazi". "Git er done, Jah Vohl"!

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