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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 04:40 PM Jul 2013

Heads Up !!! - Propaganda Ban Repealed As Government Made News Floods U.S. - FDL

Propaganda Ban Repealed As Government Made News Floods U.S.
By: DSWright - FDL
Monday July 15, 2013 8:17 am

<snip>

Have you ever wondered what America’s official propaganda is like? You will not have to wonder much longer as the ban on the U.S. government propagandizing American citizens has been quietly lifted. You may soon be hearing and seeing government made news, though you might not always know it was government made.

For decades, a so-called anti-propaganda law prevented the U.S. government’s mammoth broadcasting arm from delivering programming to American audiences. But on July 2, that came silently to an end with the implementation of a new reform passed in January. The result: an unleashing of thousands of hours per week of government-funded radio and TV programs for domestic U.S. consumption in a reform initially criticized as a green light for U.S. domestic propaganda efforts.


The law, the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012, was passed as part of the 2013 National Defense Authorization Act. The repeal of the propaganda ban went into effect this month. The country has already gotten a taste of the U.S. propaganda efforts by the Pentagon.

But if anyone needed a reminder of the dangers of domestic propaganda efforts, the past 12 months provided ample reasons.Last year, two USA Today journalists were ensnared in a propaganda campaign after reporting about millions of dollars in back taxes owed by the Pentagon’s top propaganda contractor in Afghanistan. Eventually, one of the co-owners of the firm confessed to creating phony websites and Twitter accounts to smear the journalists anonymously.

Additionally, just this month, The Washington Post exposed a counter propaganda program by the Pentagon that recommended posting comments on a U.S. website run by a Somali expat with readers opposing Al-Shabaab. “Today, the military is more focused on manipulating news and commentary on the Internet, especially social media, by posting material and images without necessarily claiming ownership,” reported The Post.


Anonymous smearing of journalists and programs to manipulate the news, why was this ban lifted again?

While the Department of Defense does what it pleases in any case...

<snip>

More: http://news.firedoglake.com/2013/07/15/propoganda-ban-repealed-as-government-made-news-floods-u-s/


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Heads Up !!! - Propaganda Ban Repealed As Government Made News Floods U.S. - FDL (Original Post) WillyT Jul 2013 OP
A Big Brother Kick !!! WillyT Jul 2013 #1
Ahem: "Today, the military is more focused on manipulating news and COMMENTRY think Jul 2013 #2
Bingo !!! WillyT Jul 2013 #3
All you have to do is look at the Snowden threads, and you'll see attempted manipulation at work. nt backscatter712 Jul 2013 #6
It does seem there are elements that are motivated to deflect think Jul 2013 #9
+1 n/t Laelth Jul 2013 #17
You are right.............nt Enthusiast Jul 2013 #47
They have assigned an entire battalion to DU Generic Other Jul 2013 #45
k/r marmar Jul 2013 #4
Agent Mike now has Sargent Mike to help.... Junkdrawer Jul 2013 #5
How does this happen so quietly? gollygee Jul 2013 #7
how? behind your back action from people spouting "transparent", Hope and change nt msongs Jul 2013 #8
PS just looked it up. It passed with more than 2/3 so he couldn't veto it, but still it would be limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #10
It would have been nice sulphurdunn Jul 2013 #25
Kick, what the hell is going on in this (we're number 1) country of ours? Sure, let's let the gov. louslobbs Jul 2013 #11
Rumsfeld said we'd be subjected to it almost a decade ago... nebenaube Jul 2013 #57
Dick Cheney and Judith Miller must be thrilled NuclearDem Jul 2013 #12
But the propaganda will be "kinder and gentler" (no, I do NOT intend to ever let go of it) now. WinkyDink Jul 2013 #13
Kinder and gentler sulphurdunn Jul 2013 #26
here ya go . . ConcernedCanuk Jul 2013 #30
Almost sulphurdunn Jul 2013 #43
One giant step towards fascism and with a Democratic President even. What the hell do we do in rhett o rick Jul 2013 #14
Can't be true -- only those nasty commies like Russia and China Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #15
+1 Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #28
Goebbels read Edward Bernays' works before becoming the Nazi PR guy. nt Democracyinkind Jul 2013 #50
Yes, you're right. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #51
geobbels just gave it a name... KG Jul 2013 #52
Folks. This is the second prong of the surveillance program. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #16
+1 nt OnyxCollie Jul 2013 #20
Thanks. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #40
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Jul 2013 #22
Thanks. We need to stick together on this. Our point of view is not well understood in some JDPriestly Jul 2013 #39
+ Infinity cantbeserious Jul 2013 #32
Thanks. Sometimes I feel like I'm alone on this issue. I know I'm not, but some threads JDPriestly Jul 2013 #38
PLUS ONE! nt Enthusiast Jul 2013 #48
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Jul 2013 #18
We used to worry that the USSR would take over and do things like this to us. FiveGoodMen Jul 2013 #19
That's simply nuts. Utterly inexcusable. Legalized lying, to us, paid for by ... US? DirkGently Jul 2013 #21
Under the Obama administration, OnyxCollie Jul 2013 #23
That gang is curiously silent. nt laundry_queen Jul 2013 #35
They can't spew talking points while performing fellatio. nt OnyxCollie Jul 2013 #42
Pfft! Enthusiast Jul 2013 #49
Surprisingly so. hootinholler Jul 2013 #59
Anyone remember the undercover Army interns at CNN and NPR? Octafish Jul 2013 #24
"We're going to openly lie to you" -The US Government. Fearless Jul 2013 #27
something something mitt romney frylock Jul 2013 #29
Democracies Slow And Tortured Death Painfully Displayed cantbeserious Jul 2013 #31
Ugh, its getting pretty smelly when the US thinks it needs to start progagandizing its citizens quinnox Jul 2013 #33
When One Sells Manure For A Living - Propaganda Is The Only Thing That Will Cover The Smell cantbeserious Jul 2013 #36
you've been propagandized since you open your first elem school history book. KG Jul 2013 #53
Gee - I guess it's pretty much curtains for any semblance of Democracy matthews Jul 2013 #34
More information: ProSense Jul 2013 #37
LOL !!! - That's Rich... WillyT Jul 2013 #41
This is the best part Life Long Dem Jul 2013 #54
K&R woo me with science Jul 2013 #44
Nothing to see here..........nt Enthusiast Jul 2013 #46
Kick !!! WillyT Jul 2013 #55
kick woo me with science Jul 2013 #56
They have been doing this for as long as I can remember. RoccoR5955 Jul 2013 #58
Citizen WillyT, why do you hate Big Brother for his freedoms? Rex Jul 2013 #60
kick woo me with science Jul 2013 #61
 

think

(11,641 posts)
2. Ahem: "Today, the military is more focused on manipulating news and COMMENTRY
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:01 PM
Jul 2013
on the Internet, especially social media, by posting material and images without necessarily claiming ownership,” reported The Post.

backscatter712

(26,357 posts)
6. All you have to do is look at the Snowden threads, and you'll see attempted manipulation at work. nt
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:04 PM
Jul 2013
 

think

(11,641 posts)
9. It does seem there are elements that are motivated to deflect
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:10 PM
Jul 2013

and discourage the discussion rather than engage with facts that support their opinion.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
10. PS just looked it up. It passed with more than 2/3 so he couldn't veto it, but still it would be
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:10 PM
Jul 2013

nice if Obama, and others in power, would lead against this.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
25. It would have been nice
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:10 PM
Jul 2013

if the President had given the country a heads up and an explanation.

louslobbs

(3,416 posts)
11. Kick, what the hell is going on in this (we're number 1) country of ours? Sure, let's let the gov.
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:18 PM
Jul 2013

use propaganda against US citizens, let's let corporate news lie to us and make up stories with abandon, let's let banks continue the harm they cause because they are to big to fail and none of the bribed officials in government (except for maybe Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders), will make laws or force through regulations, that would hold them accountable for bad behavior and maybe send them to prison for their criminal behavior. Let's get rid of any laws or regulations that help the average US citizen, and let's continue to make laws that allow the government, banks, corporations and their corporate news entities, to do things that harm the average citizen. Here, in the Twilight Zone.
Lou

 

nebenaube

(3,496 posts)
57. Rumsfeld said we'd be subjected to it almost a decade ago...
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 03:27 PM
Jul 2013

They are merely trying to prevent lawsuits now that the cat is out the bag in a big way.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
13. But the propaganda will be "kinder and gentler" (no, I do NOT intend to ever let go of it) now.
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:37 PM
Jul 2013
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
14. One giant step towards fascism and with a Democratic President even. What the hell do we do in
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:50 PM
Jul 2013

2016? Clinton, Christie or Bush? WTF?

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
15. Can't be true -- only those nasty commies like Russia and China
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 06:07 PM
Jul 2013

and East Germany woud do something like this. Our NSA isn't at all like the Stasi or the KGB.

Or so we hear all the time.

Who was it that invented propaganda, again? Oh yes, that Goebbels guy -- he was a nice Chamber of Commerce type of chap.

There's nothing to worry about, some unheard of blogger will be along any time now, to tell us propaganda is just advertising. In 3-2-1...

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
16. Folks. This is the second prong of the surveillance program.
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 06:37 PM
Jul 2013

It's all part and parcel of indoctrination. That is what collecting our records is about. It makes propagandizing us much easier. The government can target our particular propensities and intellectual levels. The entire concept from collecting data to spewing government propaganda is anti-democracy and anti-human-rights.

People who do not understand this don't deserve to be free.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
39. Thanks. We need to stick together on this. Our point of view is not well understood in some
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:22 PM
Jul 2013

quarters.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
38. Thanks. Sometimes I feel like I'm alone on this issue. I know I'm not, but some threads
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:21 PM
Jul 2013

seem to be inhabited by creatures from a future surveillance state whose brains have been washed by all the government propaganda about to be unleashed on us.

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
23. Under the Obama administration,
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:02 PM
Jul 2013

the Pentagon found no fault in its propaganda campaign leading up to the Iraq war.

Pentagon Finds No Fault in Ties to TV Analysts
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/25/us/pentagon-finds-no-fault-in-its-ties-to-tv-analysts.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all-12-26/news/30559559_1_bachmann-romney-santorum&

In January 2009, the inspector general’s office issued a report that said it had found no wrongdoing in the program. But soon after, the inspector general’s office retracted the entire report, saying it was so riddled with inaccuracies and flaws that none of its conclusions could be relied upon. In late 2009, the inspector general’s office began a new inquiry.

The results of the new inquiry, first reported by The Washington Times, confirm that the Pentagon under Donald H. Rumsfeld made a concerted effort starting in 2002 to reach out to network military analysts to build and sustain public support for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

~snip~

But several former top aides to Mr. Rumsfeld insisted that the purpose of the program was merely to inform and educate, and many of the 63 military analysts interviewed during the inquiry agreed.

Given the conflicting accounts, the inspector general’s office scrutinized some 25,000 pages of documents related to the program. But except for one “unsigned, undated, draft memorandum,” investigators could not find any documents that described the strategy or objective of the program. Investigators said that to understand the program’s intent, they had to rely on interviews with Mr. Rumsfeld’s former public affairs aides, including his spokeswoman, Victoria Clarke. Based on these interviews, the report said, investigators concluded that the “outreach activities were intended to serve as an open information exchange with credible third-party subject-matter experts” who could “explain military issues, actions and strategies to the American public.”


Behind TV Analysts, Pentagon’s Hidden Hand
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/20/us/20generals.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Hidden behind that appearance of objectivity, though, is a Pentagon information apparatus that has used those analysts in a campaign to generate favorable news coverage of the administration’s wartime performance, an examination by The New York Times has found.

The effort, which began with the buildup to the Iraq war and continues to this day, has sought to exploit ideological and military allegiances, and also a powerful financial dynamic: Most of the analysts have ties to military contractors vested in the very war policies they are asked to assess on air.

Those business relationships are hardly ever disclosed to the viewers, and sometimes not even to the networks themselves. But collectively, the men on the plane and several dozen other military analysts represent more than 150 military contractors either as lobbyists, senior executives, board members or consultants. The companies include defense heavyweights, but also scores of smaller companies, all part of a vast assemblage of contractors scrambling for hundreds of billions in military business generated by the administration’s war on terror. It is a furious competition, one in which inside information and easy access to senior officials are highly prized.


Records and interviews show how the Bush administration has used its control over access and information in an effort to transform the analysts into a kind of media Trojan horse — an instrument intended to shape terrorism coverage from inside the major TV and radio networks.


Describing the Program
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2008/04/19/us/20080419_GENERALS_DOCS.html

In memorandums and e-mail messages obtained by The Times, Defense Department officials describe the goals and mission of a program to shape public opinion about the Iraq war through retired military officers who are media analysts.


Speaking of propaganda, where are the fucking blue links to tell us this is just hyperbole?

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
59. Surprisingly so.
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 04:30 PM
Jul 2013

And how long does felatio take? One would think they would have surfaced for air by now.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
24. Anyone remember the undercover Army interns at CNN and NPR?
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:04 PM
Jul 2013

Good training for the boys. They were psyops specialists.

At CNN, they learned how the newsroom works.

NPR never heard of them, at first.

The powers-that-be have become desperate now that the enemies of secret government, or We the People if you still belive in democracy, are on to their gangster arses.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
33. Ugh, its getting pretty smelly when the US thinks it needs to start progagandizing its citizens
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:38 PM
Jul 2013

I'm still waiting for one of the hard core supporters crew to pop in and explain why this is perfectly fine, or nothing to worry about. So far it seems all we hear from that contingent is --

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
36. When One Sells Manure For A Living - Propaganda Is The Only Thing That Will Cover The Smell
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:01 PM
Jul 2013

eom

 

matthews

(497 posts)
34. Gee - I guess it's pretty much curtains for any semblance of Democracy
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:42 PM
Jul 2013

we may have thought we lived under. They aren't even going to bother with even a facade of honesty or truth anymore. I would think things like this make Putin laugh out loud.

Thank you Mr. Obama for all that 'transparency' you promised.

Now I guess all that's left is for them to announce the punishment for anyone who goes against the official 'party' line.

.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
41. LOL !!! - That's Rich...
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:23 PM
Jul 2013
The DOD has never been subject to the ban.

They need not worry. The proposed change pertains only to government-funded, civilian international broadcasters. Changing the law as H.R. 5736 proposes would have no effect on restricting the Department of Defense or other government agencies from producing content for audiences in the United States or elsewhere, because the law doesn’t currently impose any.

That’s not to say the proposed repeal shouldn’t raise questions. It should, but not questions about propagandizing US citizens. The questions should focus on why we’re so worried about the content we screen overseas, and why we haven’t gained official access to said content sooner in the current porous media environment.

We can’t, as of now, really know whether the content of VOA is in fact truthful or propagandistic, routinely biased for or against the United States, whether the content champions or condemns American foreign policy. This content, broadcast to audiences around the world, can be exempted from American freedom of information requests, and American ethnic media outlets are prevented from rebroadcasting news that would serve their communities. With the ban, all we know for certain is that content is financed by the US government. This doesn’t necessarily make it propaganda, but it certainly does make the content worthy of the same scrutiny savvy audiences apply to all media.


<And...>

When President Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act into law in early January, he authorized implementation of the Smith Mundt Modernization Act, eliminating the domestic dissemination ban. In contrast to the alarmist punditry that surfaced last May—critics said that a repeal would allow the US to subject its own citizens to propaganda—the actual change has prompted little discussion outside of public diplomacy and international broadcast circles.

As of July 1, 2013, content produced by the five US government-sponsored broadcasters, all overseen by the Broadcasting Board of Governors, will no longer be subject to the ban. In practice, not much will change. As one longtime US international broadcasting expert observed, the legislation simply changes the legal status of an already hard-to-enforce ban, “allowing de jure to catch up with de facto.” A formal statement from Voice of America, the flagship US international broadcaster, praised the change, emphasizing both the resulting transparency and the opportunity it now offers for Americans to learn more about this US foreign policy tool. As one board member declared, “All Americans will now have access to the vital and informative reporting of our accomplished journalists around the world who are working under difficult circumstances in closed societies and developing countries.”


From Your Articles.

I DON'T TRUST THEM.


 

Life Long Dem

(8,582 posts)
54. This is the best part
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 06:55 AM
Jul 2013
The questions should focus on why we’re so worried about the content we screen overseas, and why we haven’t gained official access to said content sooner in the current porous media environment.

And this

This content, broadcast to audiences around the world, can be exempted from American freedom of information requests,
 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
58. They have been doing this for as long as I can remember.
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 03:37 PM
Jul 2013

I don't know when the government WASN'T propagandizing the news.
I guess that the change is that it's for "defense" now.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
60. Citizen WillyT, why do you hate Big Brother for his freedoms?
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 04:33 PM
Jul 2013

Please stand next to your door for proper identification, thank you and have a great day citizen.

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