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And the hits from FL keep on coming...
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/07/16/2307891/miami-criminalize-homelessness/
Miami Considers Jailing Homeless People For Eating, Sleeping In Public
By Scott Keyes on Jul 16, 2013 at 3:45 pm
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Being poor could soon be a crime in the city of Miami.
As though life werent already difficult enough for people who cant afford regular housing, they could soon find themselves thrown in jail and their possessions confiscated if theyre caught engaging in certain everyday activities in public.
Before the late 1990s, Miami police frequently arrested homeless people for such crimes as sleeping on park benches, eating on sidewalks, or congregating in public places.
But in 1998, the city of Miami came to a landmark agreement, known as Pottinger v. City of Miami, whereby police officers were instructed not to arrest homeless people they caught committing minor quality of life offenses, but instead offer them a bed in a nearby homeless shelter. This new emphasis on providing homeless people with housing has been remarkably successful. In the 15 years since Pottinger, the number of people living on the streets has dropped from approximately 6,000 to 351, largely due to more shelters and support.
Despite the programs success, one Miami City Commissioner wants to back out of the deal and resume arresting homeless people for living on the streets.
Marc Sarnoff wants the city to renege on its 1998 agreement and resume arresting homeless people. Specifically, Sarnoff and his allies on the City Commission have hired a law firm to try to modify the agreement so police can arrest anyone who blocks a sidewalk, cooks a meal in a public area using a fire, litters, urinates or defecates in public, or engages in lewd conduct, rather than offering those folks a bed to sleep.
Sarnoff argues that homeless people in the downtown business district are a chronic problem. Indeed, as the Miami Herald points out, Most local shelters are at capacity, meaning police can do little to punish the homeless who urinate in the street or light cooking fires in public parks. Instead of vying for more funding to support the hundreds of homeless people who reside in Miami, Sarnoffs solution is to jail them for living on the streets.
To learn more about the criminalization of homelessness, read the 2009 report Homes Not Handcuffs by The National Law Center on Homelessness & Poverty and The National Coalition for the Homeless.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)to go back to their ideologically pure position of dehumanization and incarceration. Brav-fucking-o Florida. You truly are the worst state in the nation.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)At least the poor bastards will have a roof over their heads & food that didn't come out of a dumpster, but there are so many more humane alternatives. First, the cost of a night in jail is nothing to sneeze at--maybe $50 when you figure in the staff cost & amortize the bricks & mortar; second, is their jail big enough to hold all the new potential residents? If not, do they want to pay 10 mil or so for an expanded facility? Or are they just gonna take these wretches out & gas them like so many unwanted puppies or something when the jail gets too full?
It is amazing how, in some people, pure meanness can overcome practicality, common sense, and human decency.
babylonsister
(171,094 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Depending on location, court and admin costs, and security or special needs, it costs on average between $30k-$50k or more in some outlying cases to house a person in jail or prison per year.
Here's a crazy idea, spend $10k on average per person in need and keep them out of prison, off the street, and out of trouble.
Safetykitten
(5,162 posts)stranger81
(2,345 posts)As far as I can tell, the homeless population is completely disenfranchised.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)niyad
(113,582 posts)and takes it outside to eat can be arrested? or is it just certain people? don't they have street vendors in miami?
Does that mean anyone napping on the train or bus going home from work will be arrested?
dembotoz
(16,844 posts)lets demand that under equal enforcement, all dolphin or marlins fans(both of them from what I understand) be arrested for cooking in public before a game.
Raid all the picnic areas and campgrounds
raid all the outdoor festivals
if they want to enforce their fucking law make them enforce it
MindPilot
(12,693 posts)In Authoritaria, we can fix any issue, solve any problem by simply making it illegal.
Homeless=inmate
poor=inmate
non-white=inmate
unemployed=inmate
activist=inmate
mentally ill=inmate
addicted=inmate
whistle-blower=inmate
Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)People keep walking and pretend that they aren't there or that the problem doesn't exist.
Homeless people are people too. I've gotten to get to know several homeless people and I have my "regulars" that I help out and give some money to every once in a while. I show them pictures of my kids, talk about family, the news, and everything else. I'm getting ready to move at the end of the month and I'm genuinely saddened that I'm probably not going to see much of these guys anymore as my commute won't bring me by the gas station that I frequent anymore.
People that are down and out need to be shown compassion, not your boot on their throat.
indepat
(20,899 posts)a seemingly cold-blooded child killer of a crime. I'd say Jesus Christ were it not blasphemous.
Brigid
(17,621 posts)I keep forgetting.
Aristus
(66,467 posts)Really, Miami? That's how you treat the least among you?
What comes around goes around, you feckless assholes!
I'm glad my homeless patients are a continent away from your worthless piece of swampy, disease-ridden real estate.
They have it bad enough around here, God knows, without having to be imprisoned for eating or sleeping in public...