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BainsBane

(53,072 posts)
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 01:44 AM Jul 2013

Justice official says George Zimmerman unlikely to face federal charges

WASHINGTON — George Zimmerman is unlikely to face federal charges for killing black teenager Trayvon Martin because it would be difficult to prove he acted out of racial bias, Justice Department officials said Tuesday. . . .

But a successful federal prosecution of Zimmerman would require clear evidence that he set out to attack the unarmed Martin because he was black.
Although that is exactly what many Americans see in the fatal shooting of the 17-year-old, it can be very hard to prove in court, legal experts said. So far, prosecutors have not shown evidence that Zimmerman acted out of racial bias.

"I'd be very, very surprised if we took it," said one federal civil rights prosecutor, speaking anonymously because no decision had been made. "It's a very tough, tough case to sell" because of the lack of witnesses.

"The difficult element would be proving racial motivation beyond a reasonable doubt," said University of Michigan law professor Samuel Bagenstos, a former civil rights attorney in the Obama administration. "In most of these [hate crime] cases, you have someone who had made racial statements or you have a group who goes looking to attack a person based on their race."


http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-zimmerman-justice-20130717,0,5160145.story
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Justice official says George Zimmerman unlikely to face federal charges (Original Post) BainsBane Jul 2013 OP
I figured that customerserviceguy Jul 2013 #1
Couldn't they argue that Martin's civil rights were violated? Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #2
That argument must hinge on racial animus, which can't be clearly proven marshall Jul 2013 #3
When did she introduce that Martin may have believed Zimmerman was gay? justiceischeap Jul 2013 #4
Jeantel said that in court? That's news to me... Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #5
Suggested it on CNN: Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #8
No she didn't pintobean Jul 2013 #6
They have to be able to prove a hate crime BainsBane Jul 2013 #9
Saw that one coming... Pelican Jul 2013 #7

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
1. I figured that
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 07:24 AM
Jul 2013

the President was not willing to use political capital on this, he's just waiting for things to cool down to issue an announcement in a weekend news dump.

marshall

(6,665 posts)
3. That argument must hinge on racial animus, which can't be clearly proven
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 07:58 AM
Jul 2013

In addition, witness Rachel Jeantel has now introduced the added twist that Trayvon may have believed Zimmerman was gay. Defense could argue that Trayvon profiled Zimmerman and allegedly threw the first punch because of that.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
4. When did she introduce that Martin may have believed Zimmerman was gay?
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 08:00 AM
Jul 2013

I've missed this little tidbit. I know there was mention of him possibly being a "creepy ass cracker" that maybe wanted to "rape" him but nothing beyond that.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
8. Suggested it on CNN:
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 08:20 AM
Jul 2013
MORGAN: But you -- but you felt that there was no doubt in your mind from what Trayvon was telling you on the phone about the creepy ass cracka and so on, that he absolutely believed that George Zimmerman, this man, you didn't know who he was at the time, but this man, was pursuing him?

JEANTEL: Yes.

MORGAN: And he was freaked out by it?

JEANTEL: Yes. Definitely after I say may be a rapist, for every boy, for every man, every -- who's not that kind of way, seeing a grown man following them, would they be creep out? So you have to take it -- as a parent, when you tell your child, when you see a grown person following you, run away, and all that.

Would you go stand there? You going to tell your child stand there? If you tell your child stand there, we're going to see your child on the news for missing person.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1307/15/pmt.01.html

BainsBane

(53,072 posts)
9. They have to be able to prove a hate crime
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 09:15 AM
Jul 2013

which is a higher burden than manslaughter or second degree murder.

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