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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsUpdate: our Hero is not ruling out a bid for Russian citizenship. RUSSIA. Of course.
Because, you know, he can't live in a country that's not free and transparent . . .
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5i8XuZ6q4x11M18AYXA8d06Vu_iog?docId=CNG.a24e84eead7107254e098183dd59bddf.401
Snowden 'not ruling out' Russian citizenship bid
(AFP) 19 minutes ago
MOSCOW US intelligence leaker Edward Snowden, who has applied for temporary asylum in Russia, does not rule out applying to become a citizen, a lawyer assisting him said on Wednesday.
"He does not rule out the possibility of asking for Russian citizenship," said prominent lawyer Anatoly Kucherena, who helped Snowden put together his asylum bid on Tuesday.
"He told me: 'I am not going to go anywhere'," said Kucherena, adding Snowden planned to stay in Russia for now.
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"He asked me to continue helping him," Kucherena said, adding he would assist the world's most famous fugitive free of charge.
He added he would be happy to show Snowden the sights of Moscow, including famous landmarks such as Red Square, Lenin's Mausoleum and the Tretyakov Gallery.
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Narkos
(1,185 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,907 posts)Last night - that Mr. Putin was laughed at by what appeared to be University level students in regards to a response of his on the Snowden issue. . . i.e. stating Snowden would have to 'give up his political activities'.
Whether Mr. Putin mean it or not - the words/call to INaction - kind of paints Snowden into a corner. Doesn't mean they would NOT use him for their purposes - but he wouldn't be highly visible anymore.
pnwmom
(108,996 posts)it is for Snowden to end up in Russia, of all the places in the world.
JustAnotherGen
(31,907 posts)Bad Thoughts
(2,535 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Bodhi BloodWave
(2,346 posts)RC
(25,592 posts)how many people support the surveillance state, and blow off and otherwise excuse the parts of the Constitution the data gathering runs afoul of.
pnwmom
(108,996 posts)don't seem to realize that Snowden has weakened his case against internal US surveillance by deciding to also leak information about our international spying agencies engaging in international spying, thereby taking the media focus off internal US surveillance.
How ironic that this champion of freedom may now be aligning himself with the ultimate Surveillance State.
RC
(25,592 posts)So whats your point?
pnwmom
(108,996 posts)Their mission, at least in the past, has excluded spying on Americans in America.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)Snowy can intercept/tap any call with a few button clicks-
PROVE IT..
You know what, if you believe that I'll sell you the North Dallas Tollway
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)When I clicked on the thread my monitor started vibrating and went something like this-
Still waiting for some snowy proof- release all docs dude! Come on, go big or go, well, guess can't go anywhere LOL
RC
(25,592 posts)"The business of government is the business of the people." JFK 1962
As things stand now, the government is becoming has become the adversaries of the people.
An example is when peaceful protesters are being treated as rioters by paramilitary police forces.
pnwmom
(108,996 posts)By stealing classified documents about our spying on international countries and releasing them to the news media, Snowden is making himself an enemy of the people.
RC
(25,592 posts)pnwmom
(108,996 posts)that Snowden is ALSO an enemy of the people because of his actions in leaking the international spying documents.
RC
(25,592 posts)Response to pnwmom (Reply #8)
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Pholus
(4,062 posts)http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/16/us/double-secret-surveillance.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1&
Seems like there might be a bit of "mission creep" in this oh-so-secretly-watched-over secret program.
Sunlight creeping in through some cracks...
HipChick
(25,485 posts)**Crickets**
Demit
(11,238 posts)Like yesterday's one ridiculing Snowden's handwritten asylum request. Definite nadir, there.
Puglover
(16,380 posts)A few folks seriously need hobbies around here.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Bonhomme Richard
(9,000 posts)Russia is because we have prevented him from leaving.
pnwmom
(108,996 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Snowden-->
CakeGrrl
(10,611 posts)And it isn't because he 'embarrased' the big bully U.S. and big bad vindictive Obama wants revenge.
There are these things called laws that he broke. And every time someone tries to point that out, the big (UNPROVEN) deflection goes up: But SPYING! On US citizens!!!!!
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)They're very happy to have Booz Allen Hamilton, a company owned by the Carlyle Group, with PNAC member James Woolsey as its vice president, collecting all our information.
Leave the Carlyle Group and PNAC alone!!!
Zorra
(27,670 posts)11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Funny!
allin99
(894 posts)Sognefjord
(229 posts)I am a Snowden admirer but you have a clever notion there which I just had to correct a bit.
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)Booz Allen Hamilton, a company owned by the Carlyle Group, with PNAC member James Woolsey as its vice president, is collecting info on US citizens on behalf of the government.
You're cool with that?
dionysus
(26,467 posts)Response to dionysus (Reply #32)
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CakeGrrl
(10,611 posts)Like it or not, his actions and words while a fugitive are fair game. Greenwald's braggadocio has put this in the spotlight.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)What sort of asshole does that make him?
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)Edward Snowden Says He Sought Booz Allen Hamilton Job To Gather NSA Surveillance Evidence
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/24/edward-snowden-booz-allen-hamilton_n_3491203.html
Edward Snowden, the former government contractor who leaked information on the National Security Agency's surveillance programs, says he sought the job with Booz Allen Hamilton to gather evidence on the agency's data collection networks.
In a June 12 interview with the South China Morning Post published Monday, Snowden, who previously worked as a CIA technician, said he took the position with the intention of collecting information on the NSA.
My position with Booz Allen Hamilton granted me access to lists of machines all over the world the NSA hacked, he said. That is why I accepted that position about three months ago.
He started working at Booz Allen Hamilton in March, 2013. Obama became President in 2009.
Do you need a fucking calendar, baldguy?
Still trying the "racist" smear, I see. How pathetic.
Patriotism Racism is the last refuge of the scoundrel, to paraphrase Samuel Johnson.
pnwmom
(108,996 posts)activities that he supported in the Bush administration, or the lead-up to his leaking. All it shows is when the took that particular job, intending to get access to that information.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)Last edited Wed Jul 17, 2013, 05:45 PM - Edit history (1)
You hold a man up as a hero who has lied about pretty much everything, who has supported the worst RW racist Teabagger politicians in recent years & who has hid out and sought refuge in countries with some of the worst civil rights records in history - but when anyone brings up & exposes these little things that would brand Ed Snowden as a supreme asshole in any rational circle, you attack & defame them.
And Mr. Snowden began working for the CIA in 2007. Here's your fucking calender.
Cha
(297,723 posts)http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/12/edward-snowden-south-china-morning-post-hong-kong-_n_3430082.html
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)wherever he lands you people will find something terrible to say about it.
AllINeedIsCoffee
(772 posts)HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)CakeGrrl
(10,611 posts)He's holding out for...RUSSIA?
Yeah, OK.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)CakeGrrl
(10,611 posts)Why should he be exempt when many others are in prison for their law breaking?
He'll be tried (not dramatically executed or disappeared as he and Greenwald have inferred), and likely convicted for clearly stealing data to which he was entrusted.
He won't be there because the U.S. are just mean bullies who like to pick on people. His actions had consequences.
pnwmom
(108,996 posts)AllINeedIsCoffee
(772 posts)skip through the streets.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Count me with the whistleblower contingent.
flamingdem
(39,328 posts)while Greenie had him on the beach in South America
Rex
(65,616 posts)Believe it or not, I am kidding.
Cha
(297,723 posts)Last edited Wed Jul 17, 2013, 06:58 PM - Edit history (1)
word "hypocritical" or care?
Putin told snowden if he stayed in Russia he'd have to zip up his damn leaks. According to greenfinger.. snowden is the USA's worst nightmare(or some such dribble).. so how does this track?
Sounds like the poor thing is getting tired of the airport. If only he'd been allowed to stay in Hong Kong.
CakeGrrl
(10,611 posts)Is Snowden trying to stay in Russia instead of going to Venezuela or Bolivia? Or is he still trying to hightail it down there?
Ehh...who knows? Stay tuned!
Cha
(297,723 posts)thickens!
RetroLounge
(37,250 posts)Just like you can support Obama without putting on kneepads and a pom pom outfit.
You do know this, right?
RL