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Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 02:57 AM Jul 2013

Pakistan Battles Polio,& Its People’s Mistrust After CIA Fake Vaccination Plan Used To Find OBL

KARACHI, Pakistan — Usman, who limps on a leg bowed by the polio he caught as a child, made sure that his first three children were protected from the disease, but he turned away vaccinators when his youngest was born.

He was furious that the Central Intelligence Agency, in its hunt for Osama bin Laden, had staged a fake vaccination campaign, and infuriated by American drone strikes, one of which, he said, had struck the son of a man he knew, blowing off his head. He had come to see the war on polio, the longest, most expensive disease eradication effort in history, as a Western plot.

In January, his 2-year-old son, Musharaf, became the first child worldwide to be crippled by polio this year.

“I know now I made a mistake,” said Usman, 32, who, like many in his Pashtun tribe, uses only one name. “But you Americans have caused pain in my community. Americans pay for the polio campaign, and that’s good. But you abused a humanitarian mission for a military purpose.”

The Last Push in Eliminating Polio The disease continues to appear in Pakistan, where vaccination efforts are often met with suspicion and hostility.

Anger like his over American foreign policy has led to a disastrous setback for the global effort against polio. In December, nine vaccinators were shot dead here, and two Taliban commanders banned vaccination in their areas, saying the vaccinations could resume only if drone strikes ended. In January, 10 vaccinators were killed in Nigeria’s Muslim-dominated north.
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http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/07/22/health/pakistan-fights-for-ground-in-war-on-polio.html

The CIA leaves a hot mess behind wherever they go.

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Pakistan Battles Polio,& Its People’s Mistrust After CIA Fake Vaccination Plan Used To Find OBL (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Jul 2013 OP
It was wrong for the CIA to use those innocent people like that. I don't blame them for mistrusting liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #1
So, if someone escaped the whole mess, but their parent, parents, siblings, spouse, children... loyalsister Jul 2013 #2
Too bad the CIA wasn't better about covering its tracks. n/t pnwmom Jul 2013 #3
But.. but.. Snowden!!1! Fumesucker Jul 2013 #4
If they could have done it without getting caught, it would have been worth it pnwmom Jul 2013 #7
But they didn't get away with it, did they? Fumesucker Jul 2013 #8
Perhaps. Igel Jul 2013 #5
Moot point. Are_grits_groceries Jul 2013 #6

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
1. It was wrong for the CIA to use those innocent people like that. I don't blame them for mistrusting
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 03:02 AM
Jul 2013

us after that. I am sorry so many will get sick because of our deception.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
2. So, if someone escaped the whole mess, but their parent, parents, siblings, spouse, children...
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 03:11 AM
Jul 2013

got it, and somehow they got lucky, I suspect a person might be a willing to join whatever terrorist bloc is recruiting.
This is disgusting!!

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
4. But.. but.. Snowden!!1!
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 06:13 AM
Jul 2013


Actually I think it's hilarious that you didn't even think to say the CIA shouldn't have used a medical mission for spying, only that you thought they should have been more discreet.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
7. If they could have done it without getting caught, it would have been worth it
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 12:42 PM
Jul 2013

to get bin Laden.

People did get vaccinated. That was real enough.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
8. But they didn't get away with it, did they?
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:36 PM
Jul 2013

"Three can keep a secret if two of them are dead." -Benny F

Sooner or later just about everything comes out.

Igel

(35,350 posts)
5. Perhaps.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 09:10 AM
Jul 2013

On the other hand in the boonies--and among those who moved from the boonies, or believed like those in the boonies did--the polio vaccination campaign was already a Western plot. Before the bin Ladin raid.

Heck, before the US even attacked Afghanistan polio vaccination workers were being harrassed, threatened, kidnapped, and killed.

So he may be right. That may be his reason. Or it may be placing blame elsewhere to avoid being seen as the one responsible for something bad. Honor above truth.

However, the bin-Ladin/CIA raid is not the only reason and possibly not the dominant reason.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
6. Moot point.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 09:30 AM
Jul 2013

By using health care as a screen, the CIA has put those who do this work in many areas under dangerous circumstances in even more peril.

People in the boonies, as you so describe them, are not fond of outsiders and this proves their point.
It can take years to get through in some areas because of mistrust.

Of all the schemes to use, this was the worst.

You can speculate all you want about this one man and what you think may be his reasons. That does not change the fact that the CIA was willing to put everything in play to find OBL.

Since this was their raison d'etre, OBL did win even if they caught him.

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