While real live actual elected Democrats are taking action, DU argues about personalities.

[Luminous Animal]

Tell Congress To Vote Against NSA Surveillance Tomorrow
http://defundthensa.com/
If you call, please be clear that you support the Amash Amendment. There is a competing amendment that looks good on the surface but is merely gloss. (via http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130723/01361323896/dueling-house-amendments-over-cutting-nsa-surveillance-funding-one-is-red-herring-to-trick-congress.shtml)

Rush Holt For Senate:
http://www.rushholt.com/issues

Wyden on NSA Domestic Surveillance (who, apparently, agrees with the Greenwald left).

This is a must read. He leaves many clues as to the abuses of the NSA
http://www.wyden.senate.gov/news/blog/post/wyden-on-nsa-domestic-surveillance

[Luminous Animal]

1. "If someone told you in 2006 that the most fervent, loyal defenders of NSA & Nat'l Sec'ty State

"If someone told you in 2006 that the most fervent, loyal defenders of NSA & Nat'l Sec'ty State would soon be Dems, would you've believed it?"

- Glenn Greenwald.

[Dawgs]

2. What does your title have to do with the content in the body? n/t

[Autumn]

3. Some of us are calling and writing our elected officials, not just arguing.

Recommended.

[limpyhobbler]

4. OK I'll do it. But I don't know how to pronounce "Amash" ?

Also don't blame me for any of this. I've already given money to Rush Holt.

[Luminous Animal]

5. I don't blame you. And thanks for donating!

[Catherina]

6. K&R. Only 1 day left to write to reps to Defund the NSA.

It's no good saying they don't listen to us if we don't at least make a minimal effort to get their attention.

They won't listen to us, but at least they can't weasel out of it afterwards and say there was no opposition.

[limpyhobbler]

7. clock is ticking peeps.

[Luminous Animal]

10. +1

[limpyhobbler]

8. I think we can call that the Amash-Conyers Amendment

https://www.popvox.com/bills/us/113/hamdt101

[Luminous Animal]

9. I'm pretty sure it was not co-written but Conyers became it's Dem lead sponsor.

But it certainly won't hurt to refer to Conyers when calling your Democratic rep and it won't hurt Republicans when calling their reps.

[limpyhobbler]

11. Oh...

Possibly could be my mistake then. Not sure.

I've been calling it that since I saw the name used here
https://www.popvox.com/bills/us/113/hamdt101



I sort of repeated it here >
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014546740


Not the worst mistake I've ever made, if it is one.

[Zorra]

12. Thanks. K&R nt