So what in the new progressive economic agenda are you most excited about?
There was a big speech. I heard it was really good.
So what is the new progressive agenda? What are the proposals that people are most excited about, that are finally going to hold criminal banks and corporations accountable and reverse the massive theft of wealth from the poor and middle classes to the one percent?
I really hope he talked about finally rejecting austerity and cuts to Social Security. And did he mention putting his foot down and rejecting the Trans-Pacific job and wage-killing agreement? What did he say about criminal banks and corporations? Did he mention the trillions being stashed overseas?
Let's talk about the bold new progressive agenda. What is he going to fight for and passionately advocate from the bully pulpit? What is the bold new narrative, and what are the *major* new proposals revealed today, that you think will finally bring fundamental change and economic security and growth to the 99 percent?
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I didn't see it! Can you tell me about it?
Oh...you were kidding.
You can't help but think of good things, like the beach! What do we know about this "Summers" fellow?
Oh....my.
people go. 
Why do you think that is?! 
REALLY?! I did not know a free trade agreement could FORCE a President to support a free trade agreement.
That is very spooky!
You said I changed the discussion, so let's go back to my question! You wrote this:
That sounds very, very depressing to me. Do you mean you really don't think Obama can do ANYTHING to help? Then why did he give a speech?
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Not in response to that absurdity: Congress is forcing Obama to negotiate the TPP.
That's the most absurd, desperate reach I've read all day.
And your demand to me is equally absurd, given that we have spent the past four YEARS talking about the things Obama could be doing, including bringing legitimate economists and liberals into his administration instead of this parade of corporate thieves; instructing his Justice Department to prosecute banking criminals instead of medical marijuana users, journalists, and whistleblowers; eschewing "Grand Bargains" or at the very least proposing corporate welfare as a cut rather than the subsistence checks of the elderly poor; and saying no to this fucking evil free trade agreement that will drive millions more of us into poverty and subvert our democratic sovereignty to the interests of profit-mongering corporations.
How's that for a start? 
And you'll notice that all the things I mentioned merely involve his stopping BLUDGEONING the 99 percent, rather than actually doing something proactive to HELP us. I didn't even mention an actual jobs program or putting on his legendary walking shoes to stand publicly with some union leaders in demand of a living wage. How outrageous is that?
How sad and pathetic and disgusting is it that we have reached a place in this party, and this country, when any expectation for vision and plans on behalf of the people from a Democratic President is immediately met with knee-jerk disapproval for even *suggesting* that the people might find a passionate and vocal advocate for their interests within the administration.
That's about as pathetic a response I have ever seen from someone who purports to defend a President.
You will come back with some attempt, I'm sure, to keep this ridiculous exchange going. It will be some question or insinuation with the absurd premise that Obama is, in reality, a secret advocate of the 99 percent but is merely helpless in the face of overwhelming circumstances.* Or perhaps you will switch gears and scold us for not remembering that Obama was never a liberal in the first place, as though even a "moderate" President** cannot be expected to stand up against the wholesale selling out and impoverishment of millions once in a while. Either way, there will probably be another smear in there about unreasonable expectations.
Spare me. We have been watching this administration for nearly five years now, and it has been one horrific sell out and betrayal after another. At this point, if we can't mobilize together to somehow force the elites to pay attention to our agenda....Well, then their agenda - including Obama's precious new Grand Bargain and the TPP - is going to bury us.
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And now, the asterisks:
*Just for the record, here's the list again of Obama's major achievements in office, wholly apart from Republican obstructionism. This list does not show the President trying to enact an agenda for the 99 percent and being obstructed. It shows him working aggressively and proactively, over and over again, to install corporatists into his administration and to enact, in every policy area important to them, the agenda of the corporate one percent:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023330641#post90
**There is absolutely nothing "moderate" about what's being done to this country. Indefinite detention, "kill lists" and drone wars, pre-emptive war as administration doctrine, mass surveillance, internet IDs and internet-censoring measures like ACTA, military drones in American skies, coordinated violent crackdowns against peaceful protesters, strip searches for any arrestee, corporate education deform, new drilling and selling off the Gulf of Mexico, job-killing free trade agreements, big agriculture appointments, bailouts and settlements for corrupt banks, austerity budgets, and attacking Social Security and Medicare in an economy that has already impoverished its middle class.....These are not moderate or centrist positions. Not by a long shot. They are extreme corporatist, neocon, and police state policies. Corporate Trojan horses now control our political parties, and our Constitution and our country are being dismantled in the name of profit.
His actions and appointments, not so much. 
- Same farting noises as before; and in the end another austerity shit sandwich for somebody.....
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It sounded like that would be now. 
I think he means he needs to think up some new PR. While I agree that's true, it won't help anything. Bottom line, it appears that we can expect more of the same (not much).