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JohnnyRingo

(18,636 posts)
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 11:39 PM Feb 2012

About this latest kerfuffle over pre-natal screening.

After listening to Ohio Republican Mike DeWine on The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell, I realized conservatives have once again settled on an age old rationalization that dates back to Roe / Wade itself. DeWine related a story of how his 42 year old wife was offered a pre-natal screening. He claimed the reason was to determine if there was a birth defect so a decision could be made whether to terminate the pregnancy. DeWine stated that abortiion would be out of the question in any event so they chose not to have the screening. He feels it should not be required of insurance companies to offer this service to others.

DeWine, and others like Sarah Palin a few years ago, enjoy the right to make a decision whether to maintain a pregnancy regardless of the consequences. What they fear is that if other women are allowed to make their own decisions, they may make what they see as the "wrong choice". It comes down to not trusting women to think for themselves on moral issues concerning their own bodies.

Sometimes when I hear these people discussing abortion I wonder if they know it's a legal procedure in all 50 states. They speak of it in the same terms one would discuss drug abuse, as if it's against the law, but too many still do it and they have to find a way to prevent it.

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About this latest kerfuffle over pre-natal screening. (Original Post) JohnnyRingo Feb 2012 OP
Saw that too. He FORGOT to mention the more important reason to undergo pre-natal screening: elleng Feb 2012 #1
it comes down to men wanting to rule women. spanone Feb 2012 #2
Asshats, all of them. While I am pro-choice, my situation allows me to always choose to have a baby GobBluth Feb 2012 #3
Something confuses me about pre-natal screening and conservatives: JaneQPublic Feb 2012 #4
What happens if the fetus is gonna kill mom... how about finding out? nt Bigmack Feb 2012 #5
Uh, well, too bad Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #8
Funny thing is laundry_queen Feb 2012 #6
Makes perfect sense. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #7
"Kerfuffle"?! Seriously?! "Kerfuffle"?! Cerridwen Feb 2012 #9

elleng

(130,974 posts)
1. Saw that too. He FORGOT to mention the more important reason to undergo pre-natal screening:
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 11:50 PM
Feb 2012

The ability to know whether there might be a defect that the mother, family, and DOCTOR would BENEFIT from KNOWING ABOUT, to be fully prepared for potential problems. Discussed this with my doctor MANY years ago; HE wanted to know.

GobBluth

(109 posts)
3. Asshats, all of them. While I am pro-choice, my situation allows me to always choose to have a baby
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 11:57 PM
Feb 2012

That said I want to know what I am in for. If it is just cutesy baby crap, well awesome. But if it is something that I need to start planning for NOW, I FUCKING WANT TO KNOW NOW!. Assholes. And no judgement on those who would terminate, I am not in their shoes and may not see the world as they do.

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
4. Something confuses me about pre-natal screening and conservatives:
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 12:00 AM
Feb 2012

On one hand, they have their new frontrunner Rick Santorum saying pre-natal screening is bad because it leads to more abortions.

On the other hand, they have the conservative lawmakers in Virginia voting to make pre-natal screenings (in the form of trans-vaginal sonograms) mandatory before women can get an abortion.

So which is it: Do these screenings lead to more abortions or do they disuade would-be abortion patients from having one?

Either way, it appears conservative men are hell-bent on telling women what they can and can't do with their bodies. So much for the Repukes being the party against government intrustion.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
8. Uh, well, too bad
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 12:09 AM
Feb 2012

I mean, women can't be trusted with that kind of information.

Better to keep the befuddled little incubatin' dears in the dark, where they belong.



laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
6. Funny thing is
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 12:06 AM
Feb 2012

I think Sarah Palin herself said she was thankful for the prenatal testing because they found out ahead of time and could prepare for life with a special needs child. FWIW - I had a cousin who was 'low risk' and had some screening tests that were negative for Down Syndrome and still ended up having a baby with DS and they were pretty shocked and traumatized. Plus, there were medical issues with their baby that they, and their doctors, weren't anticipating. It was a rough time for them. I bet they wish they had known in advance - if only to be prepared.

I agree with the rest of what you said. They'd prefer no one had the 'choice' to make decisions they see as 'wrong' and so they will go to any lengths to change laws to make 'wrong' decisions illegal. Which makes them HUGE hypocrites when it comes to not wanting gov't intervention in other things. But hypocrite IS their middle name.

Cerridwen

(13,258 posts)
9. "Kerfuffle"?! Seriously?! "Kerfuffle"?!
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 12:09 AM
Feb 2012
kerfuffle
Example Sentences
World English Dictionary
kerfuffle, carfuffle or kurfuffle (kəˈfʌfəl)

—n
1. informal chiefly (Brit) commotion; disorder; agitation

—vb
2. (Scot) (tr) to put into disorder or disarray; ruffle or disarrange


Disorder or disarray?!

No, darling, this would be my life.

Which of your body parts would you like the "state" to own...in perpetuity?


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