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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 12:16 PM Jul 2013

Paula Deen I Did NOT Dress Up Black Chef Like Aunt Jemima

Paula Deen is calling BS on a former chef who claims Deen made an African-American employee dress up like Aunt Jemima ... claiming the chef is crying racism in a pathetic money grab.

The woman behind the allegations is Dora Charles -- who ran Deen's kitchens for 22 years and helped open Paula's famous Lady & Sons restaurant in Georgia.

Charles spoke with the New York Times -- and claimed Deen wouldn't just use racial slurs in the kitchens, but wanted to dress up her employees as humiliating stereotypes.

Among the allegations, Charles says Deen tried to make her ring a dinner bell for restaurant customers ... something Charles felt was racially charged.

"That's a symbol to me of what we used to do back in the day," Charles said.

Charles also claims Deen tried to make another black female employee, Ineata Jones, dress up in an "old style Aunt Jemima outfit" while flipping hoecakes at a dining station.


http://www.tmz.com/2013/07/25/paula-deen-chef-aunt-jemima/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

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Paula Deen I Did NOT Dress Up Black Chef Like Aunt Jemima (Original Post) The Straight Story Jul 2013 OP
I call BS on it, too Dreamer Tatum Jul 2013 #1
It took 22 years to come public with all this abuse? I'm snappyturtle Jul 2013 #3
Unless the other employee, Jones, makes the same claim, I call BS... joeybee12 Jul 2013 #22
while flipping hoecakes! bunnies Jul 2013 #2
They're corn pone, made with cornmeal. kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #4
Really? bunnies Jul 2013 #5
Cornbread of a sort, baked on a hot hoe blade out in the fields traditionally. kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #6
we call it "hot water cornbread" in this part of world. nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #13
How the Hoe Cake (Most Likely) Got Its Name1 TexasProgresive Jul 2013 #7
That was so interesting and well written. A joy to read. THANK YOU KittyWampus Jul 2013 #11
1 part hoe, 2 parts cake? DonRedwood Jul 2013 #8
:) bunnies Jul 2013 #9
It's a regional thing. Igel Jul 2013 #12
I probably never would have linked farming tools to cooking... bunnies Jul 2013 #16
I live so far in the Deep South Aerows Jul 2013 #14
ewww. Grits. bunnies Jul 2013 #15
With cheese and Tabasco Aerows Jul 2013 #17
Cheese! bunnies Jul 2013 #18
Cheese and Tabasco Aerows Jul 2013 #19
I'll definitely try them again with your advice. bunnies Jul 2013 #20
You might find that you like them :) Aerows Jul 2013 #21
mmmm. red beans & rice. bunnies Jul 2013 #23
If you like red beans and rice Aerows Jul 2013 #27
lol. I'd weigh 500 lbs if I lived down there. bunnies Jul 2013 #28
It's actually very good for you Aerows Jul 2013 #30
lol. bunnies Jul 2013 #31
And shrimp. Cheese grits with shrimp is amazing. NOT instant grits though. nolabear Jul 2013 #24
Oh Lord Aerows Jul 2013 #25
From the complaint filed in March of 2011 Skwmom Jul 2013 #10
Boy, they very liberally switch from "made" to "tried to make." nolabear Jul 2013 #26
Back in the day.... AsahinaKimi Jul 2013 #29

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
3. It took 22 years to come public with all this abuse? I'm
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 12:30 PM
Jul 2013

beginning to wonder a bit.....

I think that Paula having admitted her remarks may have encouraged Charles to
push a little harder...better story for her?

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
22. Unless the other employee, Jones, makes the same claim, I call BS...
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:19 PM
Jul 2013

22 years? I'm sure Deen is a diva, but if you put up with it for 22 years it probably wasn't awful.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
5. Really?
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 12:41 PM
Jul 2013

Theres a food called hoecakes? How on earth did I never hear of that? Must be a southern thing?

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
6. Cornbread of a sort, baked on a hot hoe blade out in the fields traditionally.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:00 PM
Jul 2013

It's a southern thing because it's a remnant of slavery.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
8. 1 part hoe, 2 parts cake?
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:13 PM
Jul 2013

Ohhhhh....I fear some backlash for using hoe on here...but I couldn't resist!

Glad to see the bunny back!

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
9. :)
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:18 PM
Jul 2013

Ive learned that you actually cook the cake on a hot hoe. Who knew!

Just read your OP about the "family" reunion. You are a much bigger person than I, Don. Welcome back!

Igel

(35,337 posts)
12. It's a regional thing.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:45 PM
Jul 2013

Although I knew what they were and I'm from Maryland, which stopped being Southern after the Civil War when Baltimore shifted its economic gaze northward. Must have been from neighbors that moved up from the South.

Just like Texas tortillas are sort of like flour tortillas, but with milk and oil (and additional leavening), so hoecakes are sort of like johnnycakes but with some sort of milk and with leavening.

Derived from "hoe", as in the farm implement, not "ho", the pronounciation of "whore" found in most American English dialects that lack a coda [r]. I have run into a number of mostly urban kids, though, that have no idea what a hoe is.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
16. I probably never would have linked farming tools to cooking...
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:05 PM
Jul 2013

until I joined this thread. I honestly thought it was a typo. Learn something new every day, I guess.

And Im not surprised at the kids not knowing what a hoe is at all. My last employer actually still uses pagers to send messages to the merchandisers, and we work in a lot of grocery stores which means we're around a lot of young people. Most of them had literally no idea what a pager was. They looked at it like it was from another planet. It was pretty amusing.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
14. I live so far in the Deep South
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:53 PM
Jul 2013

I didn't even have to look that one up - I knew exactly what they were LOL. I don't like them, though. They don't go well with grits.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
15. ewww. Grits.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:56 PM
Jul 2013

Those things have no taste whatsoever. And that texture! Oh, the texture. How on earth do you eat those things?

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
18. Cheese!
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:08 PM
Jul 2013

I spent a whole year in NC and nobody ever suggested cheese. That just might have changed everything. Why didnt I think of that?!

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
20. I'll definitely try them again with your advice.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:14 PM
Jul 2013

Its been about 20 years since I had 'em. Who knows, I might love them now. Especially with cheese and hot sauce!

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
21. You might find that you like them :)
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:16 PM
Jul 2013

I put sharp cheddar in mine and I use *only* Tabasco. Other hot sauces don't have the unique flavor, and it is specifically what I use when hot sauce is called for in red beans and rice, and of course, grits. It's very different from generic hot sauce.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
27. If you like red beans and rice
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:29 PM
Jul 2013

add a severe dollop of Tabasco to them, and enjoy. I love red beans and rice, considering that on Monday in New Orleans, I knew that was exactly what I was eating for lunch. It's pretty much the official Monday lunch of the city .

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
28. lol. I'd weigh 500 lbs if I lived down there.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:36 PM
Jul 2013

Seriously. Authentic creole food everywhere? I'd never stop eating. Never.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
30. It's actually very good for you
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:46 PM
Jul 2013

And you can't eat too much because it is too darn hot. I wish I lived up north. I'd deal with the snow to be able to exercise outdoors without needing a gallon of ice water to keep from dehydrating!

I weigh about 110 right now, and I am TRYING to put on weight.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
31. lol.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 03:19 PM
Jul 2013

Good point about the heat. It was in the high 90's all last week and I basically lived on fruit. Too hot to cook. Too hot to eat. Never too hot for a nice frozen drink though! Im not overweight but I have to starve myself to keep it that way. I envy your "problem".

Oh... and you can have the damn snow. I hate the stuff.

nolabear

(41,990 posts)
24. And shrimp. Cheese grits with shrimp is amazing. NOT instant grits though.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:24 PM
Jul 2013

Those things are nasty. Good grits are heaven.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
25. Oh Lord
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:27 PM
Jul 2013

Instant grits? Grits cook soon enough on their own time and taste good. Nobody needs grits fast enough to eat instant ones, eww. That's like being in a hurry to eat a sandpaper sandwich.

I suspect that is why so many people think grits are awful, because they've eaten that abomination known as instant. NOT THE SAME.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
10. From the complaint filed in March of 2011
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:21 PM
Jul 2013

Paula Deen stated, “Well what I would really like is a bunch of little niggers to wear long-sleeve white shirts, black shorts and black bow ties.....but the media would be on me about that”

African-American staff persons are required to use the back door entrance ... They were prohibited from using the front entrance..... They are required to use the restroom that is in the back of the restaurant... White staff was allowed to use the customer bathroom.

Comments by Bubba Hiers (Paula Deen’s brother) “ I wish I could put all those niggers [in the kitchen] on a boat back to Africa. He said to a vendor who traps wildlife...”you also got a bunch of coons in the kitchen you can trap.” He said to his African-American security guard and driver, “don’t you wish you could rub all the black off you and be like me?” The security guard responded, “I’m fine the way I am,” whereupon Mr. Hiers replied that “you just look dirty, I bet you wish you could.”

Regarding the sexual harassment of an African-American kitchen staff by a white staff person Hiers physically and violently shook him (the witness) and stated, “fuck your civil rights...you work for me and my sister Paul Deen.”


http://www.atlawblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Jackson-v.-Deen-et-al.-Complaint.pdf

nolabear

(41,990 posts)
26. Boy, they very liberally switch from "made" to "tried to make."
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:27 PM
Jul 2013

I have no idea what actually went on but I can't help but note that the headlines say she did it and the stories say she wanted to do it, or suggested it.

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