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itsrobert

(14,157 posts) Thu Jul 25, 2013, 11:01 PM Jul 2013

"In your heart of hearts"

Is one of the most obnoxious phrases ever.

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"In your heart of hearts" (Original Post) itsrobert Jul 2013 OP

Well, bless your heart. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #1

I *heart* this thread leftstreet Jul 2013 #2

The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked. XemaSab Jul 2013 #3

Is that a quote we should recognize? The wording is beautiful. Squinch Jul 2013 #5

Jeremiah 17:9 XemaSab Jul 2013 #6

The heart is just the heart. Sometimes it is deceitful and wicked and sometimes it is altruistic. liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #9

Mostly, though, temporary311 Jul 2013 #17

It does seem to suggest multiple concentric hearts. Like nesting dolls. Which is odd. Squinch Jul 2013 #4

. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #7

Yes. And apparently the one with the bunny ears lives in the heart of hearts. Squinch Jul 2013 #10

Be still my heart; thou hast known worse than this. :) pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #8

Keeping in the literalist vein ... Igel Jul 2013 #22

One should avoid getting literal with heart quotes, lest it turn gruesome pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #23

What does it even mean? AsahinaKimi Jul 2013 #11

I know, right? Iris Jul 2013 #15

Maybe it has to do with Poker or something? sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #20

Agreed. Silly phrase. nt Ilsa Jul 2013 #12

especially in a serious news interview itsrobert Jul 2013 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author mia Jul 2013 #13

is there some particular context to this? niyad Jul 2013 #16

During the interview with Zimmerman jurors itsrobert Jul 2013 #18

I see, and agree with you. niyad Jul 2013 #19

Eh. Igel Jul 2013 #21

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)

1. Well, bless your heart.

Reply to itsrobert (Original post)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 11:02 PM

Jul 2013

leftstreet

(36,112 posts)

2. I *heart* this thread

Reply to itsrobert (Original post)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 11:03 PM

Jul 2013

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)

3. The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked.

Reply to itsrobert (Original post)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 11:05 PM

Jul 2013

Who can understand it?

Squinch

(51,009 posts)

5. Is that a quote we should recognize? The wording is beautiful.

Reply to XemaSab (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 11:06 PM

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XemaSab

(60,212 posts)

6. Jeremiah 17:9

Reply to Squinch (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 11:07 PM

Jul 2013

But yeah, it's one of the few bible quotes that I sort of dig.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)

9. The heart is just the heart. Sometimes it is deceitful and wicked and sometimes it is altruistic.

Reply to XemaSab (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 11:16 PM

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temporary311

(955 posts)

17. Mostly, though,

Reply to liberal_at_heart (Reply #9)

Fri Jul 26, 2013, 12:17 AM

Jul 2013

it just pumps blood.

Squinch

(51,009 posts)

4. It does seem to suggest multiple concentric hearts. Like nesting dolls. Which is odd.

Reply to itsrobert (Original post)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 11:05 PM

Jul 2013

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)

7. .

Reply to Squinch (Reply #4)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 11:12 PM

Jul 2013

Squinch

(51,009 posts)

10. Yes. And apparently the one with the bunny ears lives in the heart of hearts.

Reply to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #7)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 11:17 PM

Jul 2013

The other two are on the side of hearts. Which is not as good a seat.

Lord, those things are scary looking!

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)

8. Be still my heart; thou hast known worse than this. :)

Reply to itsrobert (Original post)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 11:12 PM

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Igel

(35,356 posts)

22. Keeping in the literalist vein ...

Reply to pinboy3niner (Reply #8)

Fri Jul 26, 2013, 01:30 AM

Jul 2013

If your heart is still, doesn't that mean you're quite dead?

Or, at the very best, hooked up to a heart-lung machine?

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)

23. One should avoid getting literal with heart quotes, lest it turn gruesome

Reply to Igel (Reply #22)

Fri Jul 26, 2013, 01:36 AM

Jul 2013

"She stole my heart" is a case in point.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)

11. What does it even mean?

Reply to itsrobert (Original post)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 11:17 PM

Jul 2013

Iris

(15,666 posts)

15. I know, right?

Reply to AsahinaKimi (Reply #11)

Fri Jul 26, 2013, 12:11 AM

Jul 2013

I never even hear what comes after that phrase because I'm trying to figure that out!

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)

20. Maybe it has to do with Poker or something?

Reply to AsahinaKimi (Reply #11)

Fri Jul 26, 2013, 12:25 AM

Jul 2013

I don't know, just guessing ...

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)

12. Agreed. Silly phrase. nt

Reply to itsrobert (Original post)

Fri Jul 26, 2013, 12:01 AM

Jul 2013

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)

14. especially in a serious news interview

Reply to Ilsa (Reply #12)

Fri Jul 26, 2013, 12:09 AM

Jul 2013

Everytime I hear it, I think this is something an adolescent girl would ask another child her age in a tree house.

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niyad

(113,556 posts)

16. is there some particular context to this?

Reply to itsrobert (Original post)

Fri Jul 26, 2013, 12:15 AM

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itsrobert

(14,157 posts)

18. During the interview with Zimmerman jurors

Reply to niyad (Reply #16)

Fri Jul 26, 2013, 12:18 AM

Jul 2013

It seems like it's a standard question.

ROBIN ROBERTS, ABC NEWS: But you feel in your heart of hearts that you and the jury approached it and came with the decision and you stand by that decision to this day?

"WENDY," JUROR B29: I stand by the decision because of the law. If I stand by the decision because of my heart, he would have been guilty.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/07/25/juror_george_zimmerman_got_away_with_murder.html

niyad

(113,556 posts)

19. I see, and agree with you.

Reply to itsrobert (Reply #18)

Fri Jul 26, 2013, 12:23 AM

Jul 2013

Igel

(35,356 posts)

21. Eh.

Reply to itsrobert (Original post)

Fri Jul 26, 2013, 01:28 AM

Jul 2013

A bit mangled from Shakespeare.

heart = core, most important part. Like "cockles".

heart = emotions, private thoughts

So among the most important or deepest of your private thoughts or emotions = heart of heart. Shakespeare liked a good pun and wordplay.

Somehow it's been mangled to "heart of hearts". Sort of like "vanity of vanities," one person suspects. Perhaps it's a common suspicion. It's really the final /s/ that's the weird bit.

But we still have "cockles of your heart".

"Heart of hearts" apparently was popularized in the mid-late 1800s.

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