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Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 10:04 AM Feb 2012

Santorum on the Couch (ick!)

I generally place little value on armchair psychology, but as he exposes more and more of his inner workings to public view, I almost think I'm starting to get a fix on Santorum's psychodynamics.

I think he's a terribly repressed, homophobic, sexophobic latent homosexual who is so threatened by the nature of his unacknowledged needs that he has to keep a tight lid clamped down on his feelings while he punishes himself and others for their sexuality. Kind of like all those old hairshirt-wearing, self-flagellating penitentes who used to inhabit far reaches of the globe like New Mexico.

This twisted "morality" of his is based entirely on sexuality and does not extend to other areas, such as corrupt financial transactions, so he has no compunctions about engaging in corruption involving money.

The thing that scares me most about these types is that they managed to hold power for centuries in the past (think Spanish Inquisition, or the Protestant witch-burnings, or Calvin's burning of Giordano Bruno) & we seem to have lost the flames ignited in the Enlightenment, so who knows how far the current "Endarkenment" is gonna reach? We already have the torture chambers, the suspension of habeas corpus, the betrayal of higher education and academic research in the interest of the corporations…

And a whole political party that has dedicated itself to the enthroning of the irrational.

I keep thinking of that old Sinclair Lewis novel I read in the 60's: It Can't Happen Here.

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Santorum on the Couch (ick!) (Original Post) Jackpine Radical Feb 2012 OP
here's a reason for hope Enrique Feb 2012 #1
You hit the nail on the head. Justice wanted Feb 2012 #2
k&r... spanone Feb 2012 #3
"Endarkenment" lunatica Feb 2012 #4
He pines for the days when the Church controlled everything. Think Dark Ages for sure! sinkingfeeling Feb 2012 #5
His wife was a bad girl who he had to "save" HockeyMom Feb 2012 #6
OMG, I didn't know that, but is certainly fits the overall picture. Jackpine Radical Feb 2012 #7
"Endarkenment" Generic Other Feb 2012 #8
The PTB within the GOP warrior1 Feb 2012 #9
I think you are largely correct. hifiguy Feb 2012 #10
He spends way more time thinking about gay sex than anyone I've ever known. DCKit Feb 2012 #11
I think he's more like a David Koresh Ichingcarpenter Feb 2012 #12
Here's some psychology for you: The Right-Wing Id Unzipped. backscatter712 Feb 2012 #13
After a thorough diagnosis the conclusion is that he is an asshole. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2012 #14
This is a keeper. frogmarch Feb 2012 #15
You're right. Jackpine Radical Feb 2012 #16
I didn't know Calvin burned frogmarch Feb 2012 #17
I think the "homophobic people are closetted gays" thing is wearing pretty thin TrogL Feb 2012 #18
First I want to say that your post was both touching and eloquent. Jackpine Radical Feb 2012 #19
I've been dubious of that study TrogL Feb 2012 #22
A legitimate criticism of the PPG, I think. Jackpine Radical Feb 2012 #23
Scotchgard that thing! 11 Bravo Feb 2012 #20
I think he has parental issues. Rickie's father a psychologist, his mother a nurse Raine Feb 2012 #21
Well either that or he has brain tumor. n/t Ganja Ninja Feb 2012 #24

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
1. here's a reason for hope
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 10:12 AM
Feb 2012

the public support for gay marriage. One of the prominent theocrats said about a year ago, "we have lost the battle over gay marriage". He wasn't talking about the court decisions, he was talking about public opinion.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
4. "Endarkenment"
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 10:21 AM
Feb 2012

You said it all in that one word. That's exactly what's happening. Santorum pines for the good old days when religion was a true weapon of fear and loathing and wars. Especially when it comes to the filthy, dirty, disgusting things people do when having sex. He's terrified of the 'fun' factor in sex. It obviously beckons to him like some Satan infused harlot.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
6. His wife was a bad girl who he had to "save"
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 10:27 AM
Feb 2012

His method of saving her would be to repress and make her suffer.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
10. I think you are largely correct.
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 12:33 PM
Feb 2012

There is something about Santorum's fanatical obsession with the sex lives of others that, combined with his centuries-retrograde view of women, screams "I am so far in the closet I am finding last year's Xmas presents." He seems terrified of women.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
13. Here's some psychology for you: The Right-Wing Id Unzipped.
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 01:14 PM
Feb 2012
http://www.truth-out.org/right-wing-id-unzipped/1329147417

Although Mitt Romney used the word "conservative" 19 times in a short speech at the February 10, 2012, Conservative Political Action Conference, the audience he used this word to appeal to was not conservative by any traditional definition. It was right wing. Despite the common American practice of using "conservative" and "right wing" interchangeably, right wing is not a synonym for conservative and not even a true variant of conservatism - although the right wing will opportunistically borrow conservative themes as required.

Right-wingers have occasioned much recent comment. Their behavior in the Republican debates has caused even jaded observers to react like an Oxford don stumbling upon a tribe of headhunting cannibals. In those debates where the moderators did not enforce decorum, these right-wingers, the Republican base, behaved with a single lack of dignity. For a group that displays its supposed pro-life credentials like a neon sign, the biggest applause lines resulted from their hearing about executions or the prospect of someone dying without health insurance.

Who are these people and what motivates them? To answer, one must leave the field of conventional political theory and enter the realm of psychopathology. Three books may serve as field guides to the farther shores of American politics and the netherworld of the true believer.

Most estimates calculate the percentage of Republican voters who are religious fundamentalists at around 40 percent; in some key political contests, such as the Iowa caucuses, the percentage is closer to 60. Because of their social cohesion, ease of political mobilization and high election turnout, fundamentalists have political weight even beyond their raw numbers. An understanding of their leaders, infrastructure and political goals is warranted. Max Blumenthal has done the work in his book "Republican Gomorrah: Inside the Movement that Shattered the Party." Blumenthal investigates politicized fundamentalism and provides capsule bios of such movement luminaries as James Dobson, Tony Perkins, John Hagee and Ted Haggard. The reader will conclude that these authority figures and the flocks they command are driven by a binary, Manichean vision of life and a hunger for conflict. Their minds appear to have no more give and take than that of a terrier staring down a rat hole.

...

According to the author, the inner life of fundamentalist true believers is the farthest thing from that of a stuffily proper Goody Two Shoes. They seem tormented by demons that those in the reality-based community scarcely experience. That may explain their extraordinary latitude in absolving their political and ecclesiastical heroes of their sins: while most of us might regard George W. Bush as a dry drunk resentful of his father, Newt Gingrich as a sociopathic serial adulterer and Ted Haggard as a pathetic specimen in terminal denial, their followers on the right apparently believe that the greater the sin, the more impressive the salvation - so long as the magic words are uttered and the penitent sinner is washed in the Blood of the Lamb. This explains why people like Gingrich can attend "values voter" forums and both he and the audience manage to keep straight faces. Far from being a purpose-driven life, the existence of many true believers is a crisis-driven life that seeks release, as Blumenthal asserts, in an "escape from freedom."

An observer of the right-wing phenomenon must explain the paradox of followers who would escape from freedom even as they incessantly invoke the word freedom as if it were a mantra. But freedom so defined does not mean ordinary civil liberties like the prohibition of illegal government search and seizure, the right of due process, or the right not to be tortured. The hard right has never protested the de facto abrogation of much of the Bill of Rights during the last decade. In the right-wing id, freedom is the emotional release that a hostile and psychologically repressed person feels when he is finally able to lash out at the objects of his resentment. Freedom is his prerogative to rid himself of people who are different, or who unsettle him. Freedom is merging into a like-minded herd. Right-wing alchemy transforms freedom into authoritarianism.

Robert Altemeyer, a Canadian psychologist, has done extensive testing to isolate and describe the traits of the authoritarian personality. His results are distilled in his book "The Authoritarians." He describes religious fundamentalists, the core of the right-wing Republican base, as follows:

They are highly submissive to established authority, aggressive in the name of that authority and conventional to the point of insisting everyone should behave as their authorities decide. They are fearful and self-righteous and have a lot of hostility in them that they readily direct toward various out-groups. They are easily incited, easily led, rather un-inclined to think for themselves, largely impervious to facts and reason and rely instead on social support to maintain their beliefs. They bring strong loyalty to their in-groups, have thick-walled, highly compartmentalized minds, use a lot of double standards in their judgments, are surprisingly unprincipled at times and are often hypocrites.


(Note to Juries and moderators: this article is licensed under the Creative Commons license, which means the author say's it's OK to redistribute, or use more than four paragraphs. Did I mention that I love this article?)

frogmarch

(12,154 posts)
15. This is a keeper.
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 02:05 PM
Feb 2012

Excellent.

“...Calvin’s burning of Giovano Bruno...” I thought the Roman Inquisition was responsible for his death.

frogmarch

(12,154 posts)
17. I didn't know Calvin burned
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 02:46 PM
Feb 2012

anyone, including Michael Servetus. Thanks for the information. (Now I'm going to look up Michael Servetus. I'd never heard of him.)

TrogL

(32,822 posts)
18. I think the "homophobic people are closetted gays" thing is wearing pretty thin
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 04:46 PM
Feb 2012

Authoritarian followers like simple things, simple thinking. Authoritarian leaders know how to deliver those. Authoritarian followers fear "the other" and complexity. Authoritarian leaders know how to prey on those fears. Hence, they rely upon the easy, time-worn scapegoats;


  • gays
  • women
  • intelligent people
  • people who look or behave differently
  • people who believe other things or follow other traditions


There has been much talk of Steve Jobs "reality distortion field". While he was no conservative by any stretch of the imagination, he did share that one characteristic, the ability to create an alternatively reality out of thin air, then do everything in his power to make this so.

I grew up in a "conservative" household with all the trappings including the white fence (it was ranch-style, not picket). I was expected to believe and act on things that were demonstrably not true. Slogans, old-wives-tales and urban myths trumped reality. I was not allowed to believe the evidence of my own eyes. When I finally got out of that household, I had no tools with which to confront the real world, because up until that point, it didn't exist.

For authoritarian followers, it's simply safer to live in "the box", mumble the scripts dictated to them by their leaders, believe what they're told to believe and lash out at anything that could possibly make that change.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
19. First I want to say that your post was both touching and eloquent.
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 07:52 PM
Feb 2012

Your description of Republicans' cynical use of wedge issues, of shutting down the mental functions of their lemmings by constantly pumping them with rage and fear, etc. is an indisputably accurate description of the generic Republican candidate. For most of them, their attachments to extreme positions are marriages of opportunity.

But Santorum isn't just a stereotypic Republican demagogue who recently decided to specialize in playing the religion drum. Newt is like that. Santorum, however, has been steadfast in clinging to a twisted, Opus Dei-flavored imperialist Catholicism with an intense focus on issues involving genitalia. He's shown a consistent pattern of sex-themed religious preoccupations going back many years now. That's why I don't buy into your generic description of Republicans as a good fit for Santorum.

And are you aware of Henry Adams' work 20 or so years ago using a penile plethysmograph to measure sexual arousal in homophobic and non-homophobic male subjects? The homophobes showed greater arousal to homosexual porn than did the non-homophobes.

TrogL

(32,822 posts)
22. I've been dubious of that study
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 11:56 PM
Feb 2012

I'm not convinced there were sufficient controls in place to guarantee that tumescence was solely due to arousal and not some other factor such as rage or simply being cold.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
23. A legitimate criticism of the PPG, I think.
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 09:50 AM
Feb 2012

However, that instrument is being used every day in pretty much the same way to infer the presence of paraphilias in sex offenders.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
21. I think he has parental issues. Rickie's father a psychologist, his mother a nurse
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 08:08 PM
Feb 2012

taking government pay & housing from the VA. Now Rickie is on vendetta against anything involving the government, hmmmmmm. Rickie has more issues than TV Guide.

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