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flpoljunkie

(26,184 posts)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 11:12 AM Feb 2012

Must see Video of Franklin Graham on Morning Joe

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/ns/msnbc_tv-morning_joe/

Franklin Graham refused to say President Obama is a Christian altho he says right away in the interview that 'he can't answer that question for anybody.' Later Franklin Graham says Santorum's a Christian 'because his values are so clear' and 'no question he's a man of faith.'

Graham also added he 'thinks Newt is a Christian' and he thinks President Obama is 'more concerned about Muslims than he is about Christians being murdered in the world.'

Note John Heilemann's pointing out Graham's 'amazing double standard' regarding his decisions about who's a Christian and who's not.

Heated exchange begins at 11:43 on the video.

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Must see Video of Franklin Graham on Morning Joe (Original Post) flpoljunkie Feb 2012 OP
Graham is as big a con man as his crooked dad, mulsh Feb 2012 #1
Serious Threat TheMastersNemesis Feb 2012 #2
Think Progress reports on this amazing exchange flpoljunkie Feb 2012 #3
graham is a politician hiding behind the cross....a tax-exempt cross spanone Feb 2012 #4
Sons following fathers. earthside Feb 2012 #5
I'm not sure he knew where to draw the line on religion and politics TlalocW Feb 2012 #6
What a xxqqqzme Feb 2012 #7

mulsh

(2,959 posts)
1. Graham is as big a con man as his crooked dad,
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 11:16 AM
Feb 2012

why on earth is this grifter's opinion of any importance?

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
2. Serious Threat
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 11:18 AM
Feb 2012

The "plastic jesus" crowd is a serious threat to the Republic. They demand that our institutions govern by biblical principles. It is about enforcing your beliefs on non believers by force if necessary. They are more a clear and present danger to our democracy that Al Qeda. If we do not fight back about what they are up to then you can kiss the country good by.

Now that they have inflicted religion into the political process makes religion itself fair game. We are on our way to theocracy if the GOP is given any power in November. That fact that they are so bold as to demand religious testing for office should result in a flashback backlash.

flpoljunkie

(26,184 posts)
3. Think Progress reports on this amazing exchange
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 11:19 AM
Feb 2012
Franklin Graham: Obama May Secretly Be A Muslim, Santorum And Gingrich Are Definitely Christian
By Igor Volsky on Feb 21, 2012 at 9:47 am

The visibly shocked Morning Joe crew pressed Graham further and discovered that he was far more willing to accept the other presidential candidates’ personal testaments. Graham agreed that Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich were both Christians, while raising some concerns about Mitt Romney’s Mormon faith:

WILLIE GEIST (co-host, Morning Joe): Do you believe that Rick Santorum is Christian?

GRAHAM: I think so.

GEIST: Why is it different for Rick Santorum?

GRAHAM: Well, because his values are so clear on moral issues….

JOHN HEILEMANN (New York Magazine): That’s an amazing double standard. Your reaction to the difference. The question about Rick Santorum and President Obama, I think, just exposes an incredible double standard you’re applying to the two people. They’re exactly the same situation.
ALEX WITT (host, NOW): Reverend, what about Mitt Romney…is he a Christian?

GRAHAM: He’s a Mormon… most Christians would not recognize Mormons as part of the Christian faith. [...]

GRAHAM: Any one of these candidates. Newt Gingrich. Now, Newt has been married several times, so he’s had those issues — but he can make a good candidate. And I think that Newt is a Christian, at least he told me he is.

more...

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/02/21/428945/franklin-graham-obama-may-secretly-be-a-muslim-santorum-and-gingrich-are-definitely-christian/

earthside

(6,960 posts)
5. Sons following fathers.
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 11:44 AM
Feb 2012

What a prime example of why primogeniture, hereditary aristocracy is ultimately so weak.

Really, the only reason Frank Graham is a preacher is because it was easy and comfortable to follow in the footsteps of his father.

He ain't his dad.

I'm not a Christian and I have lots of conflict with Billy Graham on theological issues, but Billy Graham would not have been so shallow and vapid as Franklin. Billy Graham is a registered Democrat ( http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/8326362#.T0O6LlHYdSU ) though certainly leaned conservative -- but he seemed to know where to draw the line on religion and politics.

Frank Graham is a apple that has certainly fallen far away from the tree.

TlalocW

(15,384 posts)
6. I'm not sure he knew where to draw the line on religion and politics
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 12:13 PM
Feb 2012

He certainly worked hard for several decades to be seen as the White House minister, attempting to insinuate himself with presidents dating back to Truman, who he pissed off. After a visit, Graham and some other ministers stopped to take a picture of them quasi-kneeling with part of the White House in the background, and Truman thought it looked like they were praying for him - not in a good way like let him make good choices, Lord, but more in the way of, please let him truly become a Christian, Lord.

TlalocW

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
7. What a
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 03:48 PM
Feb 2012

judgmental prick.


I do not understand why persons seeking face time wear cheap hairpieces. He is obviously losing his crown hair. Spend a few extra dollars Frankie so t doesn't look like you're wearing a dacron skull cap.

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