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"Wedel blames abuse of H-1B visa programs that allow U.S. corporations to hire highly skilled foreign workers at lower wages while allowing American workers with similar skills to go jobless.
There is nothing in place that protects Americans, that makes corporations look for American workers first, Wedel said."
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2012/02/20/wife-who-sent-husbands-resume-to-president-launches-website/
denverbill
(11,489 posts)Never gives a rats ass about the unemployed until it happens to her family.
flexnor
(392 posts)we were at risk of having a discussion of substance
bongbong
(5,436 posts)The issue is the fact that repigs are all anti-the-99% until something affects them personally.
Outstanding examples are Deadeye Dick's pro-gay agenda, and BJ Queen Nancy's endorsement of stem cells after it looked like they could help her brain-dead-since-1981 husband.
flexnor
(392 posts)and that makes no sense whatsoever
sometimes, you have to decide whether you want to consolidate gains on issues, or rah rah for your team
Strawman alert. Try harder next time, you're transparent.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)bongbong
(5,436 posts)Whne the news itme orginally appeared a couple of weeks ago, there was other evidence that appeared at the same time that suggested she was repig. And - perhaps MOST IMPORTANTLY - what Dem would ever do such a blatantly racist action like asking an African-American to "dance a jig"???????????????????????????
denverbill
(11,489 posts)She is the one who asked Obama to dance a jig. She is the one who announced she would still vote Republican even after the President of the United States actually took the time to personally help her husband find work.
Does she really think Mitt Romney, the epitome of downsizing, outsourcing, move the money to the top corporate greed, is really more likely to help end outsourcing than the Democrats?
flexnor
(392 posts)and agreed with her that she should make that remark
and we also agreed that we would all vote republican after Obama helped her
we are all in lock step, everything she says or does represents all of us. if we agree with her on outsourcing and H-1b, we must therefore agree with her on everything else
denverbill
(11,489 posts)2. Fair trade not free trade! Its time to protect American business and American workers! Tariffs on goods coming from slave wage nations, and tariffs. And no more outsourcing of American jobs!"
http://politic365.com/2011/07/12/presidential-candidate-david-duke/
And don't try making this about the party. We don't have to agree with everything he says.
flexnor
(392 posts)because anyone who ever says it looks like rain today will be labeled a racist
'hmm, looks like rain today'
"THAT'S WHAT DAVID DUKE SAID!!!!! YOU MUST BE A RACIST IF YOU AGREE WITH HIM!!!!"
(and a parting shot, you're the one quoting david duke, not me, you racist you)
and by the way, do you think volksagons are economical, and smoking is bad for you? guess who also thought that
denverbill
(11,489 posts)I didn't suggest you supported David Duke because you agreed with his position on outsourcing because I agree with his position on outsourcing, so whatever applies to you would apply to me as well. My point was that just because you agree with a person on one thing doesn't necessarily mean they are your ideological BFF.
If you want to have a substantive discussion about outsourcing, it might be difficult on DU because practically nobody here particularly cares for outsourcing. My immediate reaction was to the person because I found her to be a very typical Republican who only cares about a problem when it becomes a problem for them. For her to come out AFTER Obama helped her and flatly state she would still vote Republican I think says a lot about her mentality. If Obama came out with a plan to ban outsourcing tomorrow, she'd probably call him a socialist and vote for whoever runs against him anyway.
So what specifically about this article do you want to discuss and how to you suggest we discuss the article without discussing the woman who is the subject of the article?
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glowing
(12,233 posts)what to do to "advertise" and "toss out" applicants so that they can claim there are no experienced workers in the field and they need more cheap H-1b visa workers. They do things like place ads in newspapers in other states far away from the place the company operates in, and have system software that tries to eliminate people by words that are used in a resume. Many times, people, if they actually find say a local tech company to apply to, are excluded by wording... Many times the job is more entry level, but the person who is applying just needs a job and their experience excludes them from making the HR call list because of it.
WilmywoodNCparalegal
(2,654 posts)I think you may be talking about the labor certification process, which is Step 1 for someone who is already in the U.S. with an H-1B visa to begin the long road towards obtaining lawful permanent residence (a/k/a green card).
Even so, the requirements for the labor certification (which is known as PERM) - which are set forth by the Department of Labor, not USCIS - are strict with regards to advertising. As for the resume skimming software, that's been used by HR departments nationwide for several years and it has nothing to do with visas. Many employers use them - Taleo, ICIMS, Kenexa, etc.
(source: over 11 years of experience in U.S. immigration)
flexnor
(392 posts)that describes the strict standards
WilmywoodNCparalegal
(2,654 posts)and I've worked on quite a few of these PERMs, so I know what they entail as far as advertising. Having done hundreds of these, I have seen some that resulted in U.S. and legal resident workers being hired because they were better qualified. Don't forget that this process is very expensive for a company. If the company can save money by not having to spend thousands on advertising, legal fees, etc. for a foreign candidate, it will.
Sometimes, it just so happens that a foreign employee is better suited than a U.S. or legal resident one. For instance, a company that deals with French imports/exports may be looking for someone who has expertise in French taxation. Such company employs a French taxation expert in H-1B status. Such company advertises for a position as required by PERM rules. Plenty of MBA holders and others apply, but chances are that the French taxation expert in H-1B status will likely be the best candidate.
flexnor
(392 posts)was given the opportunity to ask President Obama one question. I wanted to ask him a question that had an impact directly with my husbands industry. I heard the President in his State of the Union Address urge big corporations to ask themselves what can they do to bring jobs back to America.
I sat stunned. Yes, I do believe outsourcing is a huge problem, but we also have jobs right here that are being given to foreigners when there are qualified Americans that need the exact same position. Now, I do not have anything against foreigners or immigration, but I do have a problem with CORPORATE GREED.
My question to the President was this, "Why does the government continue to issue and extend H1-B work visa's when there are millions of American's just like my husband with no job?"
The H-1B visa is a work visa that allows foreigners with no less than a bachelors degree to come to America and work at a high-skilled job including but not limited to architecture, engineering, mathematics, and technology. There are other work visas, with other requirements for other industries as well L-1 (intra-company) H-1A (nurses), H-2A/H-2B (agricultural workers) to name a few
http://www.therealunemployed.com/
That's what you get when you vote Greedy Old Pedophile (GOP). Maybe she'll wake up and figure out that her idols hate her guts.
flexnor
(392 posts)on this issue, you get it from BOTH parties
flexnor
(392 posts)spence being a republican michigan senator, and harris miller, the tech industry propagandist who later ran in the democratic primary against webb in virginia
2 repigs & a member of the DLC. Not a real Democrat. If TPTB don't allow a Liberal to run, you end up with watered down repig policies, all of which are designed to shovel all the money in the world into the pockets of the richest 0.1%.
flexnor
(392 posts)because it sure looks like it
where i would differ is, how people are supposed to know the difference between 'real' democrats and dlc, when they all have a donkey on the lapel, and that some of those with a donkey on the lapel arent really democrats
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)support.
A (D) or a donkey don't mean much and means less and less as certain quarters push for a bigger "tent" which is nothing more than code for uniparty.
You cannot actually advance the interests of Dennis Kucinich and Bob Dole at the same time, you must choose and money makes the choice and money lines uo behind Dole.
Matters can only be made worse when you are ideologically married to bipartisanship aka starting out at Dole and trying to meet Demint in the "middle".
If people are magically expected to be "wise consumers of health care" then it is far, far easier to be a "wise consumer" of politicians.
The DLC is just the latest example. Democrat Lite has been going on for decades. Truman, for example, said in the 1952:
"The people don't want a phony Democrat. If it's a choice between a genuine Republican, and a Republican in Democratic clothing, the people will choose the genuine article, every time; that is, they will take a Republican before they will a phony Democrat, and I don't want any phony Democratic candidates in this campaign.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)Can you imagine... getting someone like Barack Obama to look at your husband's resume on national TV, and then cap it off by asking him something silly and disrespectful like that?!
flexnor
(392 posts)she's not the only one who makes bone headed remarks
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,"
Biden's had a LOT more political experience than she has, he had been a senator her entire life when he said it, and although he was saying it about someone who hadnt yet been elected president, he was saying it about a fellow US senator
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)danced, and it was caught on video, so I think that's what she was referring to. Still, I would NEVER say something like that to a President or other high official.
flexnor
(392 posts)and that's why i started this thread
for those that think i should have picked another person as an example on this topic, um....who?
this incident broke through the issue censorship on the tech worker labor busting
Gold Metal Flake
(13,805 posts)Be it outsourcing labor to foreign countries or in-sourcing labor from foreign countries, both hurt American labor. We should be looking to hire Americans first.
(It's too bad the woman blunted her argument and weakened her power at the very start when she had the focus of the President and the public by childishly insulting him. It's gonna make it real hard for her to build a consensus with Democrats on an issue that should be one tailor-made for the Party. But if discussion of this topic gets mired down into hateful barbs thrown at an individual, then it is a damn shame.)
flexnor
(392 posts)but I understand and appreciate what you are saying
sometimes I am stunned by the inability of people to parse issues rather than black and white 'for or against' a person thinking
Gold Metal Flake
(13,805 posts)An asshat from Dallas is all you need. Message control mission accomplished.
I believe the in-sourcing/outsourcing of skilled workers issue is a winner for Democrats and a good way to woo thinking moderates, centrists, independents and Republicans to voting for Democrats that want to help Americans first. It's also in-line with OWS thinking, is it not?
flexnor
(392 posts)in that department
but i'm not optomistic about the party picking this up (altough it's possible).
I remember reading an article in about 1998, when tech companies in the tech bubble were printing money like the fed reserve, and the article had a cartoon of tech leaders and democrats schoozing together over wine and cheese
it brought up how tech leaders tended to be liberal on social issues, and therefore democrats were making big inroads in tech political contributions
the problem is, tech leaders are also FASCIST in labor policy, favoring indentured servitude, and needing suicide nets on their chinese factories (as john stewart said 'a classic example of treating the symptom), which sets the standard for American workers. And regardless of how someone views the chinese, what decent person wants their electronic trinkets made my someone who's working conditions makes them so despondent they'd rather be dead
so you get a lot of talk about progress on social issues, while busting labor with a baseball bat as the tech industry campaign contrabution$ roll in
the irony is, that while american tech workers are always bashed as not being 'innovative' or hard enough working, and being too greedy, the reality is the exact opposite, that we created so much wealth, and had such a massive imballance in the distribution, that the tech leaders swaw themselves as pharoahs and the workers as slaves, and can give so much money to BOTH parties that the silence is bought
dmallind
(10,437 posts)Since that's the only one relevant to her husband's continued unemployment.
there's no tech workers unemployed in any other towns?
I did not know that
OhioChick
(23,218 posts)I'll pass this on to the plethora of unemployed tech workers that I know, especially those that were replaced with H-1B's.
K&R for US workers.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)Afterall, it's where the new liberals, and the teabaggery intersect.