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mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 09:54 AM Feb 2021

McCarthy and Graham with their idol, drumpf, are conspiring to

gerrymander as many municipalities as they can. In that manner they will be able to win elections and take over the House and Senate. McCarthy is eyeing chairmanship of the house and Graham wants chairmanship of the Senate. Mcconnell knows that he is on the way out and that is the reason for his speech. He is trying to hold on to the few that will support him and be able to save face if he is ousted by Graham. It is an ugly picture we face and I pray our Democratic Party is working hard to stop them. The third time, drumpf, bolstered by chickenshit legislators can destroy America.

President Biden and our party better do as much as we can in these first two years and block all their attempts. They are the most power hungry miscreants ever to disgrace the face of the earth.

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McCarthy and Graham with their idol, drumpf, are conspiring to (Original Post) mfcorey1 Feb 2021 OP
Biden can take care of Graham. He needs to approve the release of recorded tapings that Baitball Blogger Feb 2021 #1
I saw Graham at some hearing really digging to find out what phone conversations were captured by brewens Feb 2021 #4
Yes. The very same. Baitball Blogger Feb 2021 #6
Graham is also being investigated, gab13by13 Feb 2021 #23
Oh, I remember this. Lindsey got downright rude with his questions. crickets Feb 2021 #37
Taped Recordings? I missed that. What's time period/context? msfiddlestix Feb 2021 #5
You and me both soothsayer Feb 2021 #7
It was posted on DU. Baitball Blogger Feb 2021 #8
Interesting. During Biden Admin? or Drumf's? msfiddlestix Feb 2021 #10
This happened early on in the Trump Administration. Baitball Blogger Feb 2021 #11
I recall now. seems like it was around the Flynn and Manafort investigations msfiddlestix Feb 2021 #17
Well, if he received a copy of the transcripts, so should anyone else. Baitball Blogger Feb 2021 #18
Agree.. I have to think that the other Senators in the committee have it too. msfiddlestix Feb 2021 #19
I just don't know why any Dem would keep the information to themselves. Baitball Blogger Feb 2021 #20
i think the FISA phone taping would be between 2 Americans. marie999 Feb 2021 #24
I know that was the "big question" during the Trump administration. Baitball Blogger Feb 2021 #27
I remember that. BradBo Feb 2021 #22
Eric Holder has been working on this on our behalf (with some Obama input), while hlthe2b Feb 2021 #2
Don't forget Marc Elias WhiteTara Feb 2021 #14
I guess you missed that in my post. My very first line was underscoring Marc Elias' contributions hlthe2b Feb 2021 #15
Indeed I did miss that WhiteTara Feb 2021 #16
And they're the MyOwnPeace Feb 2021 #25
Marc Elias is great pandr32 Feb 2021 #33
Good reminder. Thanks for that. It's disturbing to me how easy it is to get caught up in KPN Feb 2021 #34
The Republican Party at the State level is more than willing to seize power by gerrymandering and dem4decades Feb 2021 #3
We can stop them. Turin_C3PO Feb 2021 #12
+++ KPN Feb 2021 #35
Lindsey's phone call to Georgia is a problem. ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2021 #9
Yes mzmolly Feb 2021 #26
Well, if CA loses a seat, McCarthy's seat could DeminPennswoods Feb 2021 #13
This is our real fight now. Access to the vote. ananda Feb 2021 #21
Could well be, but if so Trump will set him up and then pull the rug out from under him Tom Rinaldo Feb 2021 #28
If what repubs have done DownriverDem Feb 2021 #29
Of course they are SheltieLover Feb 2021 #30
It's one reason DC statehood is urgent NOW PoliWrangler Feb 2021 #31
If the shoe were on the other foot, would the GOP pursue that? KPN Feb 2021 #36
We don't have the votes radius777 Feb 2021 #38
Why would they be against statehood? KPN Feb 2021 #39
Why are they against eliminating the filibuster? radius777 Feb 2021 #40
Graham Senate majority leader? No fucking way. rickyhall Feb 2021 #32

Baitball Blogger

(46,758 posts)
1. Biden can take care of Graham. He needs to approve the release of recorded tapings that
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 10:05 AM
Feb 2021

Graham is afraid of. Watch what Graham has done. He is running around trying to tamp down on information that might be prejudicial to him and his allies.

brewens

(13,621 posts)
4. I saw Graham at some hearing really digging to find out what phone conversations were captured by
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 10:09 AM
Feb 2021

the NSA. It seemed obvious he was trying to find out if they had him recorded. I believe it concerned Russia collusion. Is that what you are referring to? I remembered that awhile back and looked but couldn't find it.

Baitball Blogger

(46,758 posts)
6. Yes. The very same.
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 10:12 AM
Feb 2021

Biden has been moving quickly to undue Trump's bad policies. I hope someone taps him on the shoulder and suggests he releases that phone recording taken by the NSA.

Graham is terrified about what will be revealed. We have a right to know what that is.

gab13by13

(21,405 posts)
23. Graham is also being investigated,
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 11:50 AM
Feb 2021

by the Ga. AG of Fulton county for his recorded phone call to the SOS attempting to overturn its election.

I watched the AG on Rachel and she is sharp and fearless. When Rachel asked her if she was afraid of intimidation she simply replied that she doubled her security.

crickets

(25,983 posts)
37. Oh, I remember this. Lindsey got downright rude with his questions.
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 05:09 PM
Feb 2021

Had to really dig through the bookmarks, but I think this is it:

Graham realizes he's been caught up in 702 surveillance
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212776914




https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4838250/user-clip-lindsey-compromised

There's a link to the full hearing on the CSPAN clip page.



Baitball Blogger

(46,758 posts)
8. It was posted on DU.
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 10:14 AM
Feb 2021

It was from one of the committees. Graham was grilling someone about a FOIA request he had made. He wanted the transcripts. And he looked very concern, because they still hadn't gotten around to responding to his request.

msfiddlestix

(7,286 posts)
10. Interesting. During Biden Admin? or Drumf's?
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 10:21 AM
Feb 2021

I've been thinking all morning that Graham needs to be removed from all committees, especially Intelligence and Judiciary.

The grounds would be because he is openly colluding with the Traitor in Chief who has been condemned for the crimes on the Capitol etc.

I don't know if the same rule applies wrt removing a Senator from committee as would be a member of the House, but there has to be exception to whatever rule when colluding with a traitor.

Baitball Blogger

(46,758 posts)
11. This happened early on in the Trump Administration.
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 10:23 AM
Feb 2021

There was an uproar when Republicans learned about FISA phone tapings, where they might have also been in on the conversation.

msfiddlestix

(7,286 posts)
17. I recall now. seems like it was around the Flynn and Manafort investigations
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 10:56 AM
Feb 2021

I wonder if he ever was able to get his FOIA requests.

Baitball Blogger

(46,758 posts)
20. I just don't know why any Dem would keep the information to themselves.
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 11:30 AM
Feb 2021

I heard a MSNBC reporter say something today that made so much sense. The Democrats never lose an opportunity to lose an opportunity.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
24. i think the FISA phone taping would be between 2 Americans.
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 11:54 AM
Feb 2021

NSA does not need a warrant to tape between an American and a Russian. At least that was true in the 60s.

Baitball Blogger

(46,758 posts)
27. I know that was the "big question" during the Trump administration.
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 12:10 PM
Feb 2021

Now that we don't have his appointed goons hamstringing these agencies, we should revisit the issue.

hlthe2b

(102,361 posts)
2. Eric Holder has been working on this on our behalf (with some Obama input), while
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 10:06 AM
Feb 2021

Mark Elias is on the job with all the corrupt R attempts to pass new voter-suppression laws.

Both need our support and help, but it isn't as though Dems are doing NOTHING.

WhiteTara

(29,722 posts)
14. Don't forget Marc Elias
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 10:30 AM
Feb 2021

he's a powerhouse attorney who beat down 60 attempts by trump/co to suppress voters.

I think that combined with the late census data, we may have some chance on that front. Registering more voters and engaging the ones who are registered will be the task for the mid term elections.

hlthe2b

(102,361 posts)
15. I guess you missed that in my post. My very first line was underscoring Marc Elias' contributions
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 10:31 AM
Feb 2021

We are very lucky to have him.

MyOwnPeace

(16,937 posts)
25. And they're the
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 12:05 PM
Feb 2021

'very best' words!!! (gee, who ever said that before?)

UNITED WE FIGHT!!!!! (go ahead, RepubliCons - use it - I said "FIGHT!" )

KPN

(15,650 posts)
34. Good reminder. Thanks for that. It's disturbing to me how easy it is to get caught up in
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 12:55 PM
Feb 2021

dire thinking these days -- with good reason: we just witnessed a live attempted coup by a fomented mass of invader-marauders followed by an acquittal of their leader by the heretofore most revered deliberative body in the world!

But we are "fighting" back effectively. The miracle performed by Stacy Abrams et al is another example. I'm sure there are more. We ARE making progress!

dem4decades

(11,304 posts)
3. The Republican Party at the State level is more than willing to seize power by gerrymandering and
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 10:06 AM
Feb 2021

voter suppression. I have very little hope that Democrats can stop these Nazi's. 1930s Germany is both in our rear view mirror and future.

Turin_C3PO

(14,054 posts)
12. We can stop them.
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 10:24 AM
Feb 2021

We’re in the majority by a good bit. It will take engagement and vigilance but we can stop them. A fascist win is by no means an inevitability.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
28. Could well be, but if so Trump will set him up and then pull the rug out from under him
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 12:14 PM
Feb 2021

Graham would do little to help Trump win. It's more likely Trump would turn to someone like Cotton, who I'm sure would say yes once he realized he couldn't win the nomination himself. Potentially being a heartbeat away from the presidency under an obese man in his late 70's would give Trump a wide field of craven opportunists to chose from if somehow Trump won the 2024 Republican nomination.

DownriverDem

(6,231 posts)
29. If what repubs have done
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 12:22 PM
Feb 2021

and plan on doing doesn't motivate folks to vote in the Midterms of 2022 nothing will. We must get folks to understand that the repubs will come out in full force to hurt the Biden/Harris agenda.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
30. Of course they are
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 12:26 PM
Feb 2021

Obama knew this years ago. This is why he & Holder have been fighting this for years.

PoliWrangler

(139 posts)
31. It's one reason DC statehood is urgent NOW
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 12:29 PM
Feb 2021

Two additional Dem Senators and perhaps weighting House representation closer to the Wyoming Rule by adding House members. Haven't done the math on the latter tho.

KPN

(15,650 posts)
36. If the shoe were on the other foot, would the GOP pursue that?
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 12:58 PM
Feb 2021

Seems to me that is a question we should bear in mind constantly in these next two years.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
38. We don't have the votes
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 06:49 PM
Feb 2021

as conservative Dems like Manchin and Sinema (and perhaps others) would never go along with such 'radical' (lol) changes.

These are all things we need to do, as the system is too tilted against us, but we need bigger majorities to do things like this.

What we can do now is mobilize our base to vote in all elections, ie the middterms, state/local, etc - that is what would really change the game for us. Repubs control too many state legislatures, courts etc.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
40. Why are they against eliminating the filibuster?
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 07:00 PM
Feb 2021

Same reason, because they're more conservative and 'institutionalist' and don't want such changes. And there are a few other Dems with that mindset. We need to build more popular support for our reforms, and build bigger majorities to do these things. Manchin and Sinema are even putting up a fuss about the 1.9T covid stimulus that would help their own constituents.

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
32. Graham Senate majority leader? No fucking way.
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 12:41 PM
Feb 2021

McCarthy is an idiot with an evil name. Cheney can at least think for herself. Female majority leader? Revolutionary.

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