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ohiosmith

(24,262 posts)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 04:19 PM Feb 2012

Chicago Teacher Suspended for Using "N-word" in Class Sues; says it was a "teachable moment".

A white teacher says Chicago public school officials and his black principal violated his civil rights when they suspended him for using the N-word in front of a classroom full of black sixth graders, according to a lawsuit.

Calling the incident a “teachable moment,” Lincoln Brown, 48, said he used the word in class at Murray Language Academy last October after he caught two girls passing a note with a rap lyric containing the slur, the Chicago Sun-Times reported.

The social studies teacher said he was discussing the use of the word in the context of movies, music and books, including the novel “Huckleberry Finn,” when the principal, Gregory Mason, happened to walk in.

“I asked them, ‘What would you feel if I used that word?’” Brown said. “I used the full word, but I didn’t address it to the students. I was very careful about that.”



Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/chicago-teacher-suspended-n-word-class-sues-a-teachable-moment-article-1.1025668#ixzz1n387va1W

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Chicago Teacher Suspended for Using "N-word" in Class Sues; says it was a "teachable moment". (Original Post) ohiosmith Feb 2012 OP
hmmm... Sivart Feb 2012 #1
a teacher and a student aren't equal noiretextatique Feb 2012 #2
Thanks Sivart Feb 2012 #3
thanks for reading my post noiretextatique Feb 2012 #6
it's time for everyone to quit using the word, if it's really that bad flexnor Feb 2012 #4
Wasn't "teachable moment" pretty much "Dr." Laura's excuse as well? bullwinkle428 Feb 2012 #5
Sounds like a misunderstanding. Quantess Feb 2012 #7
 

Sivart

(325 posts)
1. hmmm...
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 04:26 PM
Feb 2012

If the teacher was fired for using the word, then i hope the students who were passing the note got in trouble for writing it.

I am 150 percent anti racist, but I hate the double standard regarding that word. Hate it. Being white, maybe I just dont get it.....

To me, having that word be acceptable for blacks to use liberally, but no one else, is kind of racists in and of itself.

I sincerely apologize if I just dont get it, and have thus offended anyone.

Maybe someone and explain it to me....

Edited to add that i do NOT wish to have a green light to use the word in question. I think it is in poor tase. I just dont understand why it is only in poor tase SOME of the time......

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
2. a teacher and a student aren't equal
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 04:46 PM
Feb 2012

and teacher is held to a higher standard than students.

however, i commend the teacher for using the situation as a teachable moment, and i hope he gets his job back.
the n word is not acceptable for black people to use liberally...i am black and i don't use the word, and i doubt the obamas do either. but i hear kids, of all races, use the word.

i think what a lot of people don't get is intent and meaning, and that's the problem with this incident. i doubt those kids intended to use the word the way a racist would use the word, and neither did the teacher. kids...of all races...seem to use the word in a way that means something different than what the word used to mean. i have white friends who use the word "redneck" with each other, but i would never feel comfortable using that word. i am sure the same is true with other racial/ethnic groups.

and of course...we have a generation of black kids who've grown up listening to "musicians" who use the word liberally. i don't like it...at all...but the word has morphed into various meanings, not all of which are negative...at least from the pov of some speakers and listeners.
bottom line...those who are not in the habit of using racial slurs just don't use them, in any context. i cring when i hear my friends use the word (the way chris rock does) to distinguish himself as something other than those n's. and i certainly hope black kids listen to richard pryor's commentary about that word...and why he stopped using the word.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/15/opinion/15iht-edjackson.html
Richard Pryor's death puts into painful relief hip-hop's exploitation of the N-word. In 1993, Snoop Dogg said he used the word because "it's me." In 1996, Def Jam founder Russell Simmons said, "When we say 'nigger' now, it's very positive. Now all white kids who buy into hip-hop culture call each other 'nigger' because they have no history with the word other than something positive. ... When black kids call each other 'a real nigger' or 'my nigger,' it means you walk a certain way, ... have your own culture that you invent so you don't have to buy into the U.S. culture that you're not really a part of. It means we're special. We have our own language."

In a documentary last year on the N-word, actor and rapper Ice Cube claimed the word was a defiant "badge of honor." Last month, in an interview on NBC's "Today" show, rapper 50 Cent said of his massive use of the N-word: "I'm not using it as a racial slur. ... It's just slang."

Talk about reinventing the N-wheel. All these things were precisely what the comedian Pryor claimed at the beginning of the 1970s when he made a conscious decision to splatter his routine with the word. In his autobiography, "Pryor Convictions," he said, "Nigger. And so this one night I decided to make it my own. Nigger. I decided to take the sting out of it. Nigger. As if saying it over and over again would numb me and everybody else to its wretchedness. Nigger. Said it over and over like a preacher singing hallelujah."

Pryor claimed, "Saying it changed me, yes it did. It gave me strength, let me rise above ..."

Pryor rose to commercial stardom. Like many African-Americans, I bought his albums in my teens and early 20s, and no one was more brilliant on a dazzling variety of political and social topics. At a more immature time, he seemed to me a rugged complement to my Bill Cosby family-life albums.

As the 1970s wound down, it was spectacularly evident that embracing the N-word did not give Pryor the strength to rise above demons. His dismal childhood among whorehouses and barroom violence in Peoria, Illinois, mushroomed into Hollywood drug binges and threats to wives at gunpoint.

 

Sivart

(325 posts)
3. Thanks
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 04:51 PM
Feb 2012

That makes alot of sense. Intent and meaning.

And you are right, that kids of all races use the word. I stand corrected.

I didnt mean to make such generalizations.....I was just trying to get my thoughts across.





noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
6. thanks for reading my post
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 05:04 PM
Feb 2012

i understand...it is a difficult subject to discuss. on the one hand, i sort of understand that it is language that is used liberally in some black communities, and it is not always meant as negative. on the other hand, i have hard time justifying its usage the way snoop dog and other hip hop icons do...as some sort of empowering thing, the way women reclaimed bitch.
at the same time: i understand what they mean too, even though i don't agree with its usage. trying to get thoughts across on this issue it tough.

 

flexnor

(392 posts)
4. it's time for everyone to quit using the word, if it's really that bad
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 04:53 PM
Feb 2012

and it's time to quit talking about it

there comes a time, when peope have to decide whether they really want to get rid of it or not

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