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ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
Mon Jul 29, 2013, 09:30 PM Jul 2013

Would you support Puerto Rico becoming a state if a majority of them wanted to become a state?


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Yes, I would support PR becoming a state if the majority of PRs wanted to be state.
11 (85%)
No, the current status of PR is just fine.
1 (8%)
No, PR should be given independence.
1 (8%)
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Would you support Puerto Rico becoming a state if a majority of them wanted to become a state? (Original Post) ZombieHorde Jul 2013 OP
Needs to be another option... JimDandy Jul 2013 #1
Yes, but D.C. first. nt onehandle Jul 2013 #2
+++ pscot Jul 2013 #4
That requires a Constitutional amendment jberryhill Jul 2013 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Agnosticsherbet Jul 2013 #7
By PRs you mean people of Puerto Rico, I gether, not "public relations". kenny blankenship Jul 2013 #3
Puerto Rico has already voted - November 7, 2012 Tx4obama Jul 2013 #6
Math troubles jberryhill Jul 2013 #8
PR should become 2 states: East Puerto Rico and West Puerto Rico. limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #9
yeh, for sure, PR always votes way blue. nt Zorra Jul 2013 #10

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
1. Needs to be another option...
Mon Jul 29, 2013, 09:36 PM
Jul 2013

Yes, if a majority of them want to become a state, or if the majority want to become independent.

Response to jberryhill (Reply #5)

kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
3. By PRs you mean people of Puerto Rico, I gether, not "public relations".
Mon Jul 29, 2013, 09:38 PM
Jul 2013

Sometimes, I think some people somewhere have viewed "PR" as a derogatory term for Puerto Rican. I can't prove that but I would avoid it myself - the abbreviation, I mean, not the place.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
6. Puerto Rico has already voted - November 7, 2012
Mon Jul 29, 2013, 09:41 PM
Jul 2013

Under-reported story: Puerto Rico Voted for Statehood

Nov 7, 2012

The two-part referendum first asked voters if they wanted to change Puerto Rico's 114-year relationship with the United States. A second question gave voters three alternatives if they wanted a change: become a U.S. state, gain independence, or have a "sovereign free association," a designation that would give more autonomy for the territory of 4 million people.

With 243 of 1,643 precincts reporting late Tuesday, 75,188 voters, or 53 percent, said they did not want to continue under the current political status. Forty-seven percent, or 67,304 voters, supported the status quo.

On the second question, 65 percent favored statehood, followed by 31 percent for sovereign free association and 4 percent for independence.

http://www.chron.com/news/world/article/Puerto-Rico-votes-on-US-ties-and-chooses-governor-4012422.php

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251232519




Puerto Rico Chooses to Become the 51st State

Nov 7, 2012

In a slightly-less publicized election, citizens of Puerto Rico have decided to embrace statehood and become the 51st state of America. Although not all precincts have reported their tallies, 65% of votes that have been counted are in favor of statehood. Many Puerto Ricans wanted to vote in tonight’s election, but were unable to do so. Under its current relationship with the United States, Puerto Rico is only considered a territory, and is unable to participate in presidential elections. The territory also has a very limited representation in Congress, which causes some citizens to feel left out of the law making process in the United States. The transition to statehood has previously been proposed to Puerto Ricans, however citizens previously decided against statehood.

Although the transition to statehood has been all but approved by citizens of Puerto Rico, there is still one more hurdle for the aspiring state to jump through: Congress. In order for Puerto Rico to officially earn statehood, Congress must vote on the matter. President Obama stated that he supports whatever the citizens of Puerto Rico support, which may help the territory in the long run. Although the election is over, one looming question remains: Where will the extra star go on the flag?

http://yilb.com/puerto-rico-chooses-to-become-the-51st-state/

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021747152


 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
8. Math troubles
Mon Jul 29, 2013, 10:11 PM
Jul 2013

Okay, so "53 percent, said they did not want to continue under the current political status" and "On the second question, 65 percent favored statehood".

Normally 65% of 53% is not a majority of anything.

The poll was flawed because while the first question was "status quo or not", the second question was a forced choice which did not include "status quo" as an option. As a consequence, many left the second question blank since, obviously, if the answer to the first question was "status quo", then none of the three options in the second question made sense.

But just looking at it from the story you posted, how do you get a "majority" out of 65% of 53%?

Counting the blank votes on the second question - and there was a specific campaign to leave it blank if voters favored status quo - then statehood did not get a majority in that vote.

The Obama administration has approved funding for a vote on the question, with a review of the ballot options first, in order to get a clear answer.

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