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Catherina

(35,568 posts)
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 09:09 AM Jul 2013

Happy Whistleblower's Day! Today we celebrate by crucifying Bradley Manning

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Published: July 29, 2013 at 2:56 PM

WASHINGTON, July 29 (UPI) -- Sen. Chuck Grassley introduced a bill Monday calling for a National Whistle-Blower Appreciation Day to honor those who expose government waste or misconduct.

Grassley, R-Iowa, cited July 30 as the date of the nation's first whistle-blower protection law, enacted by the Continental Congress in 1778, during the Revolutionary War.

"Our nation's Founding Fathers strongly support whistle-blowing, even in time of war, and even when whistle-blowing allegations threatened to embarrass high-ranking officials," said Stephen Kohn, executive director of the National Whistle-Blowers Center in a statement Monday.

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"Anything we can do to uphold whistle-blowers and their protection is the right thing to keep government responsible. If you know laws are being violated and money's being misspent, you have a patriotic duty to report it," Grassley said.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2013/07/29/Grassley-suggests-Whistleblowers-Appreciation-Day/UPI-95341375124192/


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Note: Offer currently not available to US citizens. Offer available to Whistleblowers overseas even if Congress has to create special laws to grant asylum.

... examples of odd behavior by the American government are beginning to weigh down the scales of justice. Most recently, the United States seems to be overly concerned with all that free speech Russia is allowing Snowden, which would be like Switzerland criticizing another country for eating way too much chocolate. Or you may have noticed the not-so-subtle difference in treatment for established DC insiders leaking information versus your ordinary, everyday NSA sub-contractor...

These actions might be dastardly all on their own, but when you measure them against how the United States has behaved when the shoes were on the other foot, you're left with a dose of hypocrisy that would kill most lab rats. Take, for instance, the case of Michael Christopher Meili, security guard in Switzerland (chocolate!) for UBS, their mega-bank. He revealed some of UBS' shady dealings when it came to the banking documents of Jewish clients during the holocaust.

As a result, not only did Meili lose his job, but he was also under investigation by Swiss authorities for violating Swiss law. Moreover, according to Meili's testimony in a U.S. Senate hearing (available here), after Swiss police took possession of the documents, they told Meili that the Swiss government was treating the documents as "classified," despite the fact that they were UBS documents, and that they "would never be seen by people 'outside Switzerland.'"

Finally, while Meili believed he was exposing an act of destruction that was, or should have been, illegal, the Swiss police told him that they had concluded that UBS had done nothing wrong.

Sound familiar? Person of conscience working for a private organization that has ties to the government exposes wrong-doing, government sweeps in and initiates investigation while also unilaterally declaring classification of said wrong-doing, and then money-shots the affair by declaring all activities legal. Now, perhaps you're wondering why Meili was testifying about this at the US Senate. Well, because he went there to receive asylum, of course.

Unfortunately for Meili, the United States government determined that under no applicable law could Meili qualify for asylum. Fortunately for Meili, the Unites States government then decided to just make up a law specifically for Meili and pass it, ostensibly under the "Because Fuck You" statute in international law. And if you think I'm exaggerating, witness Private Law 105-1:

For the relief of Michel Christopher Meili, Giuseppina Meili, Mirjam Naomi Meili, and Davide Meili.

Yeah, they didn't even attempt to hide what they were doing. Just signed a law that might as well have been called "Private Law 105-1-haha-we-got-this-guy-LOL." Clinton signed the law straight away. Senators lined up to say how heroic Meili was. This in stark contrast to Obama's claim that Snowden must be returned to the US because we have to uphold "the rule of law." More striking still is Senator Charles Grassley, who claimed that because Snowden obviously broke the law, he must come home to be prosecuted at all costs. Want to guess what Grassley's take on Meili was?

The situation we have here with Mr. Meili, albeit everything that he has brought to our attention has worldwide implications, but a person like him acted out of bravery, or maybe the bravery comes after he has acted because he has had to withstand the mental torture of what has gone on since then. But it reminds me of a lot of things that happen in our own Government, and I realize his is a private sector situation, but I like to think that we keep our Federal Government honest when we have people in our Government who, when something is wrong, will be willing to come forward and say what is wrong.

We speak of these people in our Government as whistleblowers. Maybe, originally, that was to denigrate them, but as far as I am concerned the word "whistleblower" is a description of somebody who wants to seek the truth, who wants to make sure that all of the facts and circumstances are known so that a wrong can be corrected.


Now, compare that to the very same Senator Grassley and his comments on Snowden:

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http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130716/06211423817/edward-snowden-michael-meili-united-states-multiple-personality-disorder-whistleblowers.shtml
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Happy Whistleblower's Day! Today we celebrate by crucifying Bradley Manning (Original Post) Catherina Jul 2013 OP
No one has been nor will be held accountable for the warcrimes in Collateral Murder except Manning Catherina Jul 2013 #1
Most of the Bush war crimes either were either pinned on small fish Hydra Jul 2013 #2
It makes me ill too and only determined to fight harder n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #4
sometimes it just seems impossible to keep fighting xiamiam Jul 2013 #11
Here's the Guardian's live-blog on the Manning verdict, expected at 1 pm ET Catherina Jul 2013 #3
We will not be allowed to live tweet the verdict. Press ability to file will be restrained Catherina Jul 2013 #5
Bradley Manning: 10 major revelations from the Wikileaks documents Catherina Jul 2013 #6
If Manning is found not guilty of Aiding the Enemy and guilty of everything else, he faces 154 years Catherina Jul 2013 #7
Kick. Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #8
If you've never listened to Manning's statement of why he leaked, you really need to Catherina Jul 2013 #9
Outside the US Embassy in London Catherina Jul 2013 #10
And Grassley along with Pat Leahy were the two senators that Sibel Edmonds went to as well... cascadiance Jul 2013 #12
You can watch @democracynow's special live broadcast Catherina Jul 2013 #13
ACQUITTED OF AIDING THE ENEMY... still waiting for the rest n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #14
Verdict here. Manning faces 136 year Max . Sentencing to begin tomorrow Catherina Jul 2013 #15
What a weary lists of charges.... midnight Jul 2013 #30
I'm taking up knitting. Don't want to miss a stitch if the moment ever comes n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #31
I hope that is the movement back to lawfulness.... midnight Jul 2013 #33
State Dept: We've seen the #Manning verdict, no comment, we refer you to the Dept of Defense n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #16
k+r ...nt TeeYiYi Jul 2013 #17
Pic: Crowd booing each guilty verdict outside US Embassy, chanting "No justice no peace" Catherina Jul 2013 #18
Business trusts & strains of fascism. It really is the late 1920s again. n/t DirkGently Jul 2013 #19
Wish they could give him the Nobel Peace Prize today to SLAP THE BASTARDS IN THE FACE! cascadiance Jul 2013 #20
Actually today is National Cheesecake Day! zappaman Jul 2013 #21
sentencing trial begins tomorrow. No minimums required, new evidence allowed. Fight is far from over Catherina Jul 2013 #22
ACLU statement on Manning verdict Catherina Jul 2013 #23
Wow.... This is so obviously wrong.... midnight Jul 2013 #24
It is so wrong. The government just confirmed it's not here to serve us, just corporations & the MIC Catherina Jul 2013 #26
CCR Condemns Manning Verdict, Questions Future of First Amendment Catherina Jul 2013 #25
Glad to read that the first amendment is getting some support... So much attention on the second midnight Jul 2013 #29
Well, good, finally. railsback Jul 2013 #27
Reporters Without Borders releases statement saying Manning verdict a "blow" to investigative journ Catherina Jul 2013 #28
Thank you for your post. Another sad day for journalism. And democracy. chimpymustgo Jul 2013 #32

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
1. No one has been nor will be held accountable for the warcrimes in Collateral Murder except Manning
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 09:13 AM
Jul 2013


Is this justice?



Obama Erases Campaign Promises from Election Website. The Ministry of Truth is hard at work

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
2. Most of the Bush war crimes either were either pinned on small fish
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 12:00 PM
Jul 2013

Or not pursued at all. Obama Admin war crimes are simply being ignored.

Meanwhile, whistleblowers and journalists are being publicly raked over the coals, jailed for obscene amounts of time or simply "suicide"d or "accident"ed away.

Strange priorities we have as a nation...

xiamiam

(4,906 posts)
11. sometimes it just seems impossible to keep fighting
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 12:58 PM
Jul 2013

today for example, Im so very sad. .all of it ...what we've become, how we are controlled, watching the constitution be eviscerated, criminals walk free and whistleblowers treated like mass murderers.. tomorrow may be better but I already feel like someone punched me in the gut and I feel like crying. Thank God for you and people like you. Today, I'm just sad and sick of it.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
3. Here's the Guardian's live-blog on the Manning verdict, expected at 1 pm ET
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 12:28 PM
Jul 2013

Here's the Guardian's live-blog on the Manning verdict, expected at 1 pm ET

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/30/bradley-manning-trial-verdict-live


Kevin Gosztola @kgosztola

PAO tells us judge "tired of press' shenanigans." No more outbursts, clapping, high fives or otherwise "unprofessional behavior." #Manning



Bradley Manning Verdict http://www.democracynow.org/live/bradley_manning_verdict#.UffphddB_5Y.twitter @democracynow live coverage

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
5. We will not be allowed to live tweet the verdict. Press ability to file will be restrained
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 12:34 PM
Jul 2013
Nathan Fuller ‏@nathanLfuller 49s

Internet down for last 10 mins at least. We will not be allowed to live tweet the verdict. Press ability to file will be restrained #Manning

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
6. Bradley Manning: 10 major revelations from the Wikileaks documents
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 12:40 PM
Jul 2013

Bradley Manning trial: what we know from the leaked WikiLeaks documents

Revelations from the files downloaded include footage of US helicopter crews laughing at civilian deaths in Baghdad


Peter Walker
The Guardian, Tuesday 30 July 2013 12.01 EDT




Bradley Manning, a 25-year-old US private, downloaded more than 700,000 classified documents from US military servers and passed them to WikiLeaks. The Guardian was one of several news organisations to publish a series of stories based on the contents of the files. Below are 10 of the most revelatory:

• The first revelation came in 2010, from a video showing a US helicopter crew laughing as they launched an air strike killing a dozen people in Baghdad in July 2007, including a photographer and driver working for the Reuters news agency. The footage was recorded on one of two Apache helicopters which were hunting for suspected insurgents. They encounter a group of men on the ground, who do not immediately appear armed, and there is no sign of gunshots. But one helicopter crew opens fire, with shouts of "Hahaha. I hit 'em," and "Oh yeah, look at those dead bastards". As the wounded are helped, one of the helicopters opens fire again, with armour-piercing shells.

• The next tranche of revelations came in July 2010, from documents dating from 2004 to 2009 about the Afghan war. One set raised concerns in the US by suggesting alleged support for the Taliban from Pakistan, particularly that the country's spy agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), had been collaborating with the Taliban.

• The Afghanistan files also included details of an incident from 2007 in which US marines escaping an attack outside the city of Jalalabad fired their guns indiscriminately, killing 19 unarmed civilians and wounding 50 more. While the aftermath of the attack was plain to military authorities, the files suggested, the incident was referred to in an official report only as this: "The patrol returned to JAF [Jalalabad air field]."

• In October 2010 came a series of revelations about events in Iraq. Chief among these was that US authorities failed to investigate hundreds of reports of abuse, torture, rape and even murder by Iraqi police and soldiers. The reports of abuse, often supported by medical evidence, describe prisoners shackled, blindfolded and hung by wrists or ankles, and subjected to whipping, punching, kicking or electric shocks.

• Another Iraq-related revelation was that the US collated details of more than 100,000 people killed in Iraq following the invasion of the country, including more than 15,000 deaths that were previously unrecorded. The tally goes against previous protestations by the UK and US that there were any official statistics on the death toll connected to the war.

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/30/bradley-manning-wikileaks-revelations

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Catherina

(35,568 posts)
7. If Manning is found not guilty of Aiding the Enemy and guilty of everything else, he faces 154 years
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 12:43 PM
Jul 2013
Nathan Fuller ‏@nathanLfuller 39s

If #Manning is found not guilty of Aiding the Enemy and guilty of everything else, he faces 154 years in jail.
 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
12. And Grassley along with Pat Leahy were the two senators that Sibel Edmonds went to as well...
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 01:00 PM
Jul 2013

And a lot of good it did her to try to follow the rules with them, and get shut down on every turn to try and get herself on to the stand in a court room so that she couldn't lie and give us more hidden truths. The system rigged itself to put judges like current FISA court head Reggie Walton "randomly selected" twice to make sure that state secrets privilege was used to shut down all of her court appearances.

The system has been rigged against whistleblowers for decades now. Only now they are pushing more of them in to prison and prospects of harsh sentences over what folks like Ellsberg and Edmonds faced earlier.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
13. You can watch @democracynow's special live broadcast
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 01:08 PM
Jul 2013

Joshua Daniels ‏@HarryElephante 1m

You can watch @democracynow's special live broadcast of the #BradleyManning verdict here: http://www.livestream.com/democracynow #Manning #WikiLeaks #DNlive

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
15. Verdict here. Manning faces 136 year Max . Sentencing to begin tomorrow
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 01:13 PM
Jul 2013

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Alexa O'Brien ‏@carwinb 4m

Aiding the Enemy-- NOT GUILTY

Spec 1, Charge II Wanton Pub. GUILTY #Manning

Spec II, Charge II GUILTY to his LIO plea for 793(e) Collateral Murder #Manning

Spec 3, Charge II CIA Red Cell Memo 793(e) GUILTY #Manning (10 years MAX)

Spec 4, Charge II Iraq War Logs Database 641 GUILTY (10 years MAX) #Manning

Spec 5, Charge II Iraq War Logs Espionage 793(e) GUILTY (10 years) #Manning

Spec 6, Charge II Afghan War Diray Database 641 GUILTY (10 years) #Manning

Spec 7, Charge II Afghan War Diary Espionage 793(e) GUILTY #Manning (10 Years MAX)

Spec 8, Charge II GTMO Files Database 641 GUILTY #Manning (10 Years MAX)

Spec 9, Charge II GTMO File 793(e) Espionage GUILTY #Manning (10 Years MAX)

Spec 10, Charge II Farah Records 793(e) GUILTY #Manning (10 Years Max)

Spec 11, Charge II Garani Video 793(e) NOT GUILTY #Manning

Spec 12, Charge II Cablegate database 641 GUILTY #Manning (10 Years MAX)

Spec 13, Charge II Cablegate CFAA Exceed Auth Access GUILTY #Manning (10 Years)

Spec 14, Charge II Reykjavik 13 GUILTY to his LIO ('knowingly accessing') #Manning (2 years MAX)

Spec 15, Charge II USACIC Memo on WikiLeaks 793(e) GUILTY #Manning (10 tears MAX)

Spec 16, Charge II Microsoft Exchange GAL 641 GUILTY #Manning (10 Years MAX)

Charge III (Article 92) Spec 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 GUILTY (2 years MAX each, TOTAL MAX 10 years) #Manning

Spec 1, Charge II Wanton Publication (Which #Manning was found guilty of is 2 years MAX-- see above)

Spec 2, Charge II Guilty to his LIO plea for 793(e) Collateral Murder #Manning <-- See above this is 2 years MAX)



MANNING WRAP UP: Guilty of 5 charges of espionage, 5 counts of theft, 4 counts of embezzlement of government property http://on.rt.com/e7o41i

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
18. Pic: Crowd booing each guilty verdict outside US Embassy, chanting "No justice no peace"
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 01:34 PM
Jul 2013

RT @BlackKatz_UK: Crowd booing each guilty verdict outside US Embassy #Manning now chanting "No justice no peace"

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
20. Wish they could give him the Nobel Peace Prize today to SLAP THE BASTARDS IN THE FACE!
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 01:43 PM
Jul 2013

... and let the fascist shadow government know what the world thinks of their "power" now!

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
22. sentencing trial begins tomorrow. No minimums required, new evidence allowed. Fight is far from over
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 01:52 PM
Jul 2013
Nathan Fuller ‏@nathanLfuller 1m

Bradley Manning's sentencing trial begins tomorrow. No minimums required and new evidence allowed. This fight is far from over.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
23. ACLU statement on Manning verdict
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 01:55 PM
Jul 2013
ACLU Comment on Bradley Manning Verdict

July 30, 2013

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
CONTACT: 212-549-2666, media@aclu.org

NEW YORK – A military court-martial today found Pfc. Bradley Manning guilty of multiple charges under the Espionage Act for giving classified material to WikiLeaks, but not guilty of aiding the enemy.

"While we're relieved that Mr. Manning was acquitted of the most dangerous charge, the ACLU has long held the view that leaks to the press in the public interest should not be prosecuted under the Espionage Act," said Ben Wizner, director of the ACLU's Speech, Privacy and Technology Project. "Since Manning already plead guilty to charges of leaking information – which carry significant punishment – it seems clear that the government was seeking to intimidate anyone who might consider revealing valuable information in the future."

http://www.aclu.org/free-speech/aclu-comment-bradley-manning-verdict

midnight

(26,624 posts)
24. Wow.... This is so obviously wrong....
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 01:57 PM
Jul 2013

I just want to clarify that prosecuting whistle blowers is wrong....

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
26. It is so wrong. The government just confirmed it's not here to serve us, just corporations & the MIC
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 02:13 PM
Jul 2013

Thanks to Bradley Manning we know the names of the dead in the Badgad killing. Thanks to the government, we don't know the names of the killers.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
25. CCR Condemns Manning Verdict, Questions Future of First Amendment
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 02:04 PM
Jul 2013

CCR Condemns Manning Verdict, Questions Future of First Amendment

Contact: press@ccrjustice.org

July 30, 2013, New York – Today, the Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) released the following statement in response to the verdict in the trial of Bradley Manning:

While the "aiding the enemy" charges (on which Manning was rightly acquitted) received the most attention from the mainstream media, the Espionage Act itself is a discredited relic of the WWI era, created as a tool to suppress political dissent and antiwar activism, and it is outrageous that the government chose to invoke it in the first place against Manning. Government employees who blow the whistle on war crimes, other abuses and government incompetence should be protected under the First Amendment.

We now live in a country where someone who exposes war crimes can be sentenced to life even if not found guilty of aiding the enemy, while those responsible for the war crimes remain free. If the government equates being a whistleblower with espionage or aiding the enemy, what is the future of journalism in this country? What is the future of the First Amendment?

Manning’s treatment, prosecution, and sentencing have one purpose: to silence potential whistleblowers and the media as well. One of the main targets has been our clients, WikiLeaks and Julian Assange, for publishing the leaks. Given the U.S. government’s treatment of Manning, Assange should be granted asylum in his home country of Australia and given the protections all journalists and publishers deserve.

We stand in solidarity with Bradley Manning and call for the government to take heed and end its assault on the First Amendment.

The Center for Constitutional Rights represents WikiLeaks and Julian Assange in the U.S. and filed a case challenging the lack of transparency around the Manning trial on behalf of itself and a diverse group of media figures: Glenn Greenwald, Amy Goodman of Democracy Now!, The Nation and its national security correspondent Jeremy Scahill, and Wikileaks and its publisher, Julian Assange. Also included are Kevin Gosztola, co-author of Truth and Consequences: The U.S. vs. Bradley Manning and a civil liberties blogger covering the Manning court martial, and Chase Madar, author of The Passion of Bradley Manning and a contributing editor to The American Conservative. Jonathan Hafetz of Seton Hall Law School is co-counsel with CCR in that case, along with Bill Murphy and John J. Connolly of Zuckerman Spaeder LLP’s Baltimore office.

The Center for Constitutional Rights is dedicated to advancing and protecting the rights guaranteed by the United States Constitution and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Founded in 1966 by attorneys who represented civil rights movements in the South, CCR is a non-profit legal and educational organization committed to the creative use of law as a positive force for social change.

midnight

(26,624 posts)
29. Glad to read that the first amendment is getting some support... So much attention on the second
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 02:43 PM
Jul 2013

amendment compliments of ALEC has drowned out our first amendment rights....

 

railsback

(1,881 posts)
27. Well, good, finally.
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 02:18 PM
Jul 2013

After forgetting about Manning like you all forgot about Kiriakou, you all can move on to more important matters, like the GOP states violating the rights of women, workers and voters. You know, real issues that affect us all as a country.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
28. Reporters Without Borders releases statement saying Manning verdict a "blow" to investigative journ
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 02:20 PM
Jul 2013
The verdict is warning to all whistleblowers, against whom the Obama administration has been waging an unprecedented offensive that has ignored the public interest in their revelations. It also threatens the future of investigative journalism, which risks finding its sources drying up.

“The information that Manning allegedly passed to WikiLeaks – used by newspapers such as The New York Times, The Guardian, Der Spiegel and Le Monde in coordination with Julian Assange’s website ¬– included revelations of grave abuses in the ‘war on terror’ launched by the Bush administration,” Reporters Without Borders said.

“The ‘collateral’ fatal shooting of Reuters employees by a U.S. Army helicopter in Baghdad in July 2007 is a well-known example (see video). Should this reality have been concealed from the U.S. public and international opinion? Which was more serious – committing such crimes or revealing them to the public?

“The conditions in which Manning has been held, his unfair trial and the lack of transparency during the hearings speak volumes about the fate reserved for whistle-blowers and the way the rule of law is being flouted. Edward Snowden would have every reason to fear persecution, as defined by the Geneva Conventions, if he were to return to the United States.”

Reporters Without Borders added: “Will the resumption of the debate about protection of sources at the federal level suffice to overcome the many offensives against investigative journalism, such as the recent seizure of Associated Press phone records ? The outcome of the Manning trial unfortunately suggests the contrary.”

One journalist is currently imprisoned in the United States.

http://en.rsf.org/united-states-manning-verdict-blow-for-30-07-2013,44995.html


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