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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCompared to Robert Lady, Snowden is a fucking Saint!
But keep screaming about Greenwald if it helps you through the night.....
Lessons from Edward Snowden and Robert Seldon Lady
By Tom Engelhardt
| Mon Jul. 29, 2013 5:51 PM PDT
This story first appeared on the TomDispatch website.
~Snip~
Lady fled Italy, leaving behind a multimillion-dollar villa near Turin meant for his retirement. (It was later confiscated and sold to make restitution payments to Nasr.) Convicted in absentia in 2009, Lady received a nine-year sentence (later reduced to six). He had by then essentially vanished after admitting to an Italian newspaper, "Of course it was an illegal operation. But that's our job. We're at war against terrorism."
Last week, the Panamanians picked him up. It was the real world equivalent of a magician's trick. He was nowhere, then suddenly in custody and in the news, and thenpoof again!he wasn't. Just 24 hours after the retired CIA official found himself under lock and key, he was flown out of Panama, evidently under the protection of Washington, and in mid-air, heading back to the United States, vanished a second time.
State Department spokesperson Marie Harf told reporters on July 19th, "It's my understanding that he is in fact either en route or back in the United States." So there he was, possibly in mid-air heading for the homeland and, as far as we know, as far as reporting goes, nothing more. Consider it the CIA version of a miracle. Instead of landing, he just evaporated.
And that was that. Not another news story here in the US; no further information from government spokespeople on what happened to him, or why the administration decided to extricate him from Panama and protect him from Italian justice. Nor, as far as I can tell, were there any further questions from the media. When TomDispatch inquired of the State Department, all it got was this bit of stonewallese: "We understand that a U.S citizen was detained by Panamanian authorities, and that Panamanian immigration officials expelled him from Panama on July 19. Panama's actions are consistent with its rights to determine whether to admit or expel non-citizens from its territory."...
Full article:
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/07/edward-snowden-robert-seldon-lady
By Tom Engelhardt
| Mon Jul. 29, 2013 5:51 PM PDT
This story first appeared on the TomDispatch website.
~Snip~
Lady fled Italy, leaving behind a multimillion-dollar villa near Turin meant for his retirement. (It was later confiscated and sold to make restitution payments to Nasr.) Convicted in absentia in 2009, Lady received a nine-year sentence (later reduced to six). He had by then essentially vanished after admitting to an Italian newspaper, "Of course it was an illegal operation. But that's our job. We're at war against terrorism."
Last week, the Panamanians picked him up. It was the real world equivalent of a magician's trick. He was nowhere, then suddenly in custody and in the news, and thenpoof again!he wasn't. Just 24 hours after the retired CIA official found himself under lock and key, he was flown out of Panama, evidently under the protection of Washington, and in mid-air, heading back to the United States, vanished a second time.
State Department spokesperson Marie Harf told reporters on July 19th, "It's my understanding that he is in fact either en route or back in the United States." So there he was, possibly in mid-air heading for the homeland and, as far as we know, as far as reporting goes, nothing more. Consider it the CIA version of a miracle. Instead of landing, he just evaporated.
And that was that. Not another news story here in the US; no further information from government spokespeople on what happened to him, or why the administration decided to extricate him from Panama and protect him from Italian justice. Nor, as far as I can tell, were there any further questions from the media. When TomDispatch inquired of the State Department, all it got was this bit of stonewallese: "We understand that a U.S citizen was detained by Panamanian authorities, and that Panamanian immigration officials expelled him from Panama on July 19. Panama's actions are consistent with its rights to determine whether to admit or expel non-citizens from its territory."...
Full article:
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/07/edward-snowden-robert-seldon-lady
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Compared to Robert Lady, Snowden is a fucking Saint! (Original Post)
think
Jul 2013
OP
Please explain what happened to Nasr and the other, similar acts Lady is accused of.
leveymg
Jul 2013
#1
That was indeed a disgusting story. But if you jumble too many different stories together,
struggle4progress
Jul 2013
#2
leveymg
(36,418 posts)1. Please explain what happened to Nasr and the other, similar acts Lady is accused of.
Thnx
think
(11,641 posts)3. From Wikipedia:
Wikipedia: Hassan Mustafa Osama Nasr
~Snip~
On February 17, 2003, Nasr was abducted by CIA agents[1] as he walked to his mosque in Milan for noon prayers, thus becoming an effective ghost detainee. He was later transported to a prison in Egypt where, he states, he was tortured.[2]
In April 2004, while his incarceration had been downgraded to house arrest, Nasr placed several phone calls from Egypt to his family and friends. He told them he had been rendered into the hands of Egypt's SSI at Tura prison, twenty miles south of Cairo.[3] He said he had been subjected to various depredations, tortured by beating and electric shocks to the genitals, raped, [4] and eventually had lost hearing in one ear.[5] At the time of the calls he had been released on the orders of an Egyptian judge because of lack of evidence. Shortly after those calls were made he was re-arrested and placed back in prison.
Nasr's case has been qualified by Swiss senator Dick Marty as a "perfect example of extraordinary rendition", and in Italy prompted a series of investigations and intrigues within the Italian intelligence community and criminal justice system collectively referred to as the Imam Rapito (or "kidnapped Imam" affair in the Italian press...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hassan_Mustafa_Osama_Nasr#Abduction_by_the_CIA
~Snip~
On February 17, 2003, Nasr was abducted by CIA agents[1] as he walked to his mosque in Milan for noon prayers, thus becoming an effective ghost detainee. He was later transported to a prison in Egypt where, he states, he was tortured.[2]
In April 2004, while his incarceration had been downgraded to house arrest, Nasr placed several phone calls from Egypt to his family and friends. He told them he had been rendered into the hands of Egypt's SSI at Tura prison, twenty miles south of Cairo.[3] He said he had been subjected to various depredations, tortured by beating and electric shocks to the genitals, raped, [4] and eventually had lost hearing in one ear.[5] At the time of the calls he had been released on the orders of an Egyptian judge because of lack of evidence. Shortly after those calls were made he was re-arrested and placed back in prison.
Nasr's case has been qualified by Swiss senator Dick Marty as a "perfect example of extraordinary rendition", and in Italy prompted a series of investigations and intrigues within the Italian intelligence community and criminal justice system collectively referred to as the Imam Rapito (or "kidnapped Imam" affair in the Italian press...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hassan_Mustafa_Osama_Nasr#Abduction_by_the_CIA
think
(11,641 posts)5. Robert Lady is NOT accused. He was CONVICTED.
struggle4progress
(118,285 posts)2. That was indeed a disgusting story. But if you jumble too many different stories together,
you won't be able to think clearly about anything at all
think
(11,641 posts)4. Disgusting? This fucker helped torture people!
I am not confused. I am mother fucking pissed off at the utter hypocrisy!
Whistleblowers get castigated here and torturers are ignored.
My train of thought is very clear. Thank you for your concern....