A very muted "woo hoo!" for Pfc. Manning

[WilliamPitt]

Not guilty on aiding the enemy.

Thank God for small favors.

[xiamiam]

1. very important to the future of free press

watch democracy now live stream

[Gregorian]

2. I think they knew we'd freak.

[backscatter712]

3. He's probably still looking at decades in prison. :(

The shadow government wants to make an example of him.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

6. what is the shadow government?

[sabrina 1]

7. We know for sure about Cheney's shadow government and we don't know if it ever went away

since they were all given a free pass on the crimes we know they committed.

[LordGlenconner]

8. Shadow govt.?

Oh, tell me more, please.

[sabrina 1]

13. You a supporter of Cheney? Or just uninformed?

[East Coast Pirate]

18. He's pretty confrontational for someone who showed up on July 4th.

[KittyWampus]

21. Asking how a "shadow government" factors in to Bradley Manning getting tried and sentenced

isn't "confrontational".

[sabrina 1]

38. How you ask is the point!

[bobduca]

41. Tory Tea Troll

Based on his avatar choice and the date, I say its a tory tea troll.

[hack89]

16. Is Obama a puppet or merely clueless?

I am assuming you believe he is not really in charge.

[tavalon]

25. He and his family are photogenic, but yeah, I don't think he runs a damn thing

Now, whether it's his fault or he was made to understand his role, I know not.

[WillyT]

15. Go Here:

Watch Video.

DULink: http://sync.democraticunderground.com/10023144317

[Pretzel_Warrior]

23. why don't you just sum up key points for me?

I hate when people answer questions with a video link.

[WillyT]

28. Trust Me... Just This Once...

[Pretzel_Warrior]

31. ok. I will. but my trust once given and than abused....cannot be attained again.

[JimDandy]

35. That's very SENSible. Some people are PRO links.

I'm not. To me, a link is for providing the source of info or to steer the reader to additional info. I almost never click on links in posts that have only a title. If the poster has a point, I need them to say it, especially if they have a data eating video link.

[Logical]

39. Lazy? n-t

[tavalon]

22. The people who actually run this country

You didn't think those yahoos and the guy at the Whitehouse actually govern this country, did you? They are the stars, and sometimes, though rarely, the sacrificial lambs.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

24. somebody ate their Cynical Cereal this morning

so what is your explanation for The Great Society legislation passing? Doesn't sound like the work of shady corporate masters.

Or are you positing that this all took place in just this past 40 years?

[tavalon]

26. Given that it was common knowledge (to those who bothered to notice)

That Cheney was running a second government and that there doesn't appear to be any difference now and considering it was Eisenhower who told us of the dangers of the military industrial complex, this is hardly tin foil hat area.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

27. Cheney had a cipher for a president. It was such a shadow government everyone knew about it

that is not what you're professing here. You're saying there is some hidden, unknown government behind the scenes calling the shot for Obama. But no proof.

DO you realize such disempowering thought and discussion is just meant to make you more passive and not want to get involved in politics at all?

[tavalon]

32. MIC and corporation

We are a corporately and militarily controlled.

[MNBrewer]

29. Exactly

*wink, wink*

[Warpy]

4. He won't be executed, at least

but he embarrassed enough military bureaucrats that the rest of his youth will be spent in a Federal prison.

There seem to be two crimes they will throw everything they have at: stealing from the rich (Madoff) and embarrassing bureaucrats (Manning, Assange, Snowden).

[Pretzel_Warrior]

5. or being an unlikeable home show billionaire

[truebluegreen]

9. That would be both, albeit in a limited fashion.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

10. that would be both what?

did she steal from the rich? no.
did she expose overreach or fraud or other in federal beauracracy? no

[truebluegreen]

11. Both stealing from the rich, and embarrassing bureaucrats.

i.e. insider trading and lying to the feds.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

19. not even close

to your other examples.

[JimDandy]

36. The two are scalable it appears. n/t

[truebluegreen]

37. "My" other examples?

Whatevs dude.

[sabrina 1]

14. And a Democrat, which she was and the Prosecutor is a Republican.

They had to throw out the 'insider trading' charges, but the Repub Prosecutor wouldn't let it end so he found some archaic law, rarely used, to charge her with and she was convicted of 'lying to a Fed Agent.

That too was questionable, she spoke to the Feds, a big mistake that people learned of the ridiculous charges were made against her.

Never speak to the Feds and never speak to the Cops. They are not to be trusted.

[Warpy]

33. Well, she insisted on giving money to the wrong party

She was a traitor to her class so she had to be taught a lesson.

[RobertEarl]

12. We need a million more like him

Sometimes I wish I had become a mole in the belly of the beast, so I could do as much for the world as Manning has.

Also: anyone else notice DU running slow these past few minutes?

[malaise]

17. Great news

Rec

[rl6214]

20. But still pleading guilty to many others

He's never getting out.

[quinnox]

30. K&R

It does restore a bit of faith in justice.

[Matariki]

34. That is very good to hear

was praying for that...

[bigwillq]

40. (woo hoo)

K and R

[kentuck]

42. 100 years is almost life.

He didn't get any big favors.

[SammyWinstonJack]

43. rec