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'Gay propaganda' law co-sponsor says he is unconcerned about a US visa ban, saying: 'I've spoken to US politicians, and they support my stance'
A Russian lawmaker has said the gay propaganda law will remain enforced during the Sochi Winter Olympic Games in 2014. Vitaly Milonov, co-sponsor of the non-traditional relationships bill, said the government cannot decide when to selectively enforce the law.
It comes as the International Olympic Committee said the Russian government had assured them all athletes and spectators will be safe from arrest.
Speaking to Interfax and as translated by GSN, Milonov said: I have not heard any comments from the government of the Russian Federation but I know it is acting in accordance with Russian law.
If a law has been approved by the federal legislature and signed by the president, then the government has no right to suspend it. It doesnt have the authority.
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They better get their shite together.
This is an international incident waiting to happen.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)I hate boycotting the games but if they do this they'll leave other countries with no choice. if anyone shows up
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)after some bargaining.(i say he as more than likely it will be a gay man and not a woman). nothing will change with the law itself and no nation will interfere in this.
the best thing that could have happened is if we boycotted but that too won't happen
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)Being abusive so that no country with a halfway decent human rights record (and their "friends in commerce" who may not be quite so inclusive but who understand which side their bread is buttered on) will want to send their people to the Games for fear of arrest, is one way of getting the thing cancelled.
The Russians (read: Pootie Poot) might just tell the Olympic committee, "Fuck it, go to some other country that built up for the Olympics in years past, no one wants to come to our party!"
It will be interesting if we gradually learn there is more unrest in the Sochi region than we're learning from Pootie's "fair and balanced" Big Green RT.
I have an irritating fear that Sochi is a nightmare waiting to happen. People keep referencing BERLIN '36, but my mind keeps drifting towards MUNICH '72...but with extra-special 21st Century horror.
Behind the Aegis
(53,957 posts)If this article is correct, then I would support a boycott of the Olympics. As it stands, I do not. The Olympics are not supposed to be about politics, but if our (really, any gay athletes/spectators) are at risk, then it should be yanked from Russia or suffer a worldwide boycott.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Just arrest any competitor in a close contest on "suspicion of being gay."
We know they cheat, they were famous for juicing back in the day.
Behind the Aegis
(53,957 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)You have to wonder if he doesn't "allow" some crime to happen. I know I do. I don't think all this "homophobic law" talk AND violence against the Russian LGBT community are happening in isolation from one another. It doesn't seem coincidental to me at all--it seems orchestrated.
Kind of like a warning shot on the one hand, and a teapot whistling on the other...gotta let the thugs blow off a little steam, and maybe even tell them how to do it...?
Behind the Aegis
(53,957 posts)At least that is how I am feeling about recent events regarding the GLBT community in Russia.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)the athletes should boycott too.
and
Fuck Russia!
Behind the Aegis
(53,957 posts)The Olympics should not be about politics, it should be about friendly competition and ability. That said, if the Russians are going to arrest gay athletes/spectators, then the games should be yanked or boycotted. Given the recent violence against gays (especially gay youth) in Russia, I really do fear something very nasty could happen.
to you! Been thinking of you!
petronius
(26,602 posts)and bigotry bubbling up in Russia are far from trivial, the Olympics ought to be an event distinct from internal and international conflict. However, if the Russian government allows the event to be coopted by the anti-gay elements - as is seeming to be the case - then it should be boycotted.
At this point, given the public statement from someone in the government, I'd expect a very clear expression from a higher level that the safety, comfort, and dignity of all participants will be strictly respected at the games (back-channel "assurances" don't cut it)...
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Last edited Thu Aug 1, 2013, 10:04 AM - Edit history (2)
when they voted for Russia. Yet they still the site. Pyeongchang (South Korea) lost by four votes and will be hosting the Winter Olympics in 2018. I'm wondering if they shouldn't be speeding up the infrastructure projects in case Russia's plans fall apart. One of the largest projects is a high speed rail line between Seoul and the site in the east.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I'd rather see them split up the events if they couldn't fit it all in one place; like say, have the ice skating in Norway, and the skiing - luge stuff in Canada, and the gymnastics any-old-where, rather than give Pootie the play. They could do a huge TV ceremony, with big screens at the different locations--it would be a tech challenge, but interesting nonetheless.
The venues they would choose would have to be "equality friendly" of course!
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)since so many sit close together. It would be hard to make it economically feasible with sites too far away from each other. The host countries already spend way too much money as it is.
We get our chance 5 years from now and I may take the train out and go to one event just to be able to say "I've been to the Olympics".
As far as "equality friendly" I find it ironic the country that people have been praising for its treatment of Edward Snowden want to arrest anyone they think is gay at the Olympics. The Olympics is suppose to be a politically free environment, yet Putin has refused to observe that tradition. I'd think this would be a legitimate reason for a boycott of the games given any gay athlete would be in fear they'd be thrown in jail. Then again, maybe it's just Putin shooting his mouth off and he'll back down under pressure before the games.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I think it's just a horrible situation. Unacceptable, really.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I can't fathom how the Olympic Committee would allow the games when athletes could be in danger. It's pretty stupid.
If DUers are really for human rights they'll support a complete boycott of Russia until they repeal the laws.
We'll see how the wind blows now that this information is out.
TexasTowelie
(112,204 posts)They're rigging the competition so that Plushenko wins the gold medal again.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)What a fucking joke.
Rex
(65,616 posts)The GOP mentality is akin to a disease imo.
cali
(114,904 posts)It didn't. Not even close.
Rex
(65,616 posts)IOW, there are assholes in all countries more concerned about how you look and your sexuality, then say unemployment or the ever decreasing value of the dollar for average workers.
Lancero
(3,003 posts)To increase the odds of a Russian athlete winning a event.
Instead of better training for the athlete, just arrest some of the competition.
Initech
(100,076 posts)Until these ridiculous draconian laws are repealed. Let's see how much tourism money they lose.
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)Warpy
(111,264 posts)Arrest any foreign athlete deemed to be a threat to Russian wins on the suspicion that s/he is gay. Don't turn him/her loose until after the event.
Honestly, I don't see how any country with gay team members can possibly expose their people to this sort of danger.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Archae
(46,328 posts)Behind the Aegis
(53,957 posts)...a heterosexual homophobe is nothing but a heterosexual homophobe.
Archae
(46,328 posts)I seriously doubt the Russians will be any different.
Behind the Aegis
(53,957 posts)theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)Time that people stopped blaming gays for their own victimization. I'm sick of it. Hate crimes just don't happen because the perp identifies with the victim. Yep, there really are heterosexuals that hate GLBTs that much. Face it, people.
theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)Thank you.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)You had a golden chance to make the West look bad, thanks to the fact you and your pet Edward Snowden exposed what was hiding under Uncle sam's trousers, but then you go and remind us why people used to fear the Soviets, and also reminded us that Modern Russia is now the Soviet Union without all that egalitarian, leftist, atheist, good stuff.
burnodo
(2,017 posts)JI7
(89,250 posts)backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Behind the Aegis
(53,957 posts)dembotoz
(16,806 posts)sound like the russkies don't want to ensure that
functioning_cog
(294 posts)Chipper Chat
(9,679 posts)Don't forget to ban all teams with any pink in their uniforms.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)ut oh
(895 posts)comrads in Russia...
They're going to love that.
Lugal Zaggesi
(366 posts)Have their police perfected gaydar ?
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)This is no more valid than a Congressman calling Snowden a traitor. They all love to shoot their mouths off.
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dusty trails
(174 posts)There go my plans out the window.
And I was in the mood for some borscht.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Last edited Wed Jul 31, 2013, 09:00 PM - Edit history (2)
Do like Britain did for the 1980 Moscow games. British athletes were allowed to go under the Olympic committee flag they chose. Since we cannot guarantee the safety and well-being of our athletes, it should be their choice. Then we will get to see exactly where each athlete stands on the issue.
TeamPooka
(24,227 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)BOYCOTT
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