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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 03:27 PM Jul 2013

Octafish and I have noticed things wiped from the internet.

my biggest one is the story
of the feds giving loans to the banks
from 2006 until now which I followed for years. and posted on LBNs

Can you find me the links to prove me wrong?


they were happening every other day.


thanks.

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Octafish and I have noticed things wiped from the internet. (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 OP
What??? nt msanthrope Jul 2013 #1
It was billions to prop up the banks Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #3
Wait a minute--on a site were you can pay what you want to for membership, msanthrope Jul 2013 #8
You were probably told to tell them that. FSogol Jul 2013 #14
Do you mean Internet in general TBF Jul 2013 #2
The internet I don't have the search I need for DU Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #11
We just moved them over to the other Internet snooper2 Jul 2013 #4
It's a conspiracy....nt msanthrope Jul 2013 #5
Yeah the banks and feds Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #15
Are you trying to say that you predicted everything, housing bubble, etc snooper2 Jul 2013 #18
lol.... you want the next one? Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #19
you want me to go try to search for something on DU2? snooper2 Jul 2013 #20
No just find the feds loans to the banks Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #22
Did you watch the video? snooper2 Jul 2013 #23
hahaha Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #24
Did you put them in your DU journal? They should still be there, then. MADem Jul 2013 #6
My journal..... was never updated Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #13
Are you drunk? LanternWaste Jul 2013 #21
You can use advanced search in Google and find what you want. MADem Jul 2013 #28
"Link rot" Benton D Struckcheon Jul 2013 #7
It's not 'link rot' unless that refers to the synapses in some people's heads. msanthrope Jul 2013 #10
Sept 10 2001 WaPo, Cheney and Rumsfeld "war gaming" a 747 hitting The Pentagon. Electric Monk Jul 2013 #9
thank you Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #12
Just a quick look around, something like this? Rex Jul 2013 #16
Check this out. Rex Jul 2013 #17
Is your Google Site search broken?... SidDithers Jul 2013 #25
I've got a fence to whitewash. I gave this kid a marble for a turn at it. REP Jul 2013 #26
K&R'd! snot Jul 2013 #27
Example: Gary Webb was right: CIA Sold Dope (Cocaine Importation Agency) Octafish Jul 2013 #29
Try the Way Back Machine intaglio Jul 2013 #30
I'll tell you another which bothers me xiamiam Jul 2013 #31
 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
8. Wait a minute--on a site were you can pay what you want to for membership,
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 03:34 PM
Jul 2013

you have lost your star, and you want others to perform searches for you?

I'm laughing so hard I can barely type because I know that my refusal to perform searches on your behalf will be taken as 'proof' that I am part of the conspiracy.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
11. The internet I don't have the search I need for DU
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 03:38 PM
Jul 2013

I know what this woo sounds like

But the truth is... it was going on.

But follow those stories if you find them on LBNs I posted if they are still there.

I warned about the crash back way back then after watching billions transferred every other day

I know........ the US system of money is good and we shouldn't look at that or question it.

The PRIVATE BANKING SYSTEM works
we shall not question it.


Yes, things are wiped if you pay attention.







Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
15. Yeah the banks and feds
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 03:56 PM
Jul 2013

are just a bunch of good old boys and
the collapse was just an Iching conspiracy.

Well this post might make people look at the truth rather than just attacking me and PROVE IT WRONG.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
18. Are you trying to say that you predicted everything, housing bubble, etc
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 04:02 PM
Jul 2013

and you tried to warn the World through the World Wide Web and nobody listened and now the powers that be have scrubbed your posted information in an attempt to minimize the great foresight you had?

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
19. lol.... you want the next one?
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 04:13 PM
Jul 2013

The banking system, JP morgan Chanse
is a trillion dollar fraud connoting austerity
fro their shareholders

Look who is on the Fed......

find my posts yet on them lending money to banks before the crash?










 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
20. you want me to go try to search for something on DU2?
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 04:18 PM
Jul 2013

LOL...


I've got more important things to do, like VICE just uploaded a new video-



Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
22. No just find the feds loans to the banks
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 04:24 PM
Jul 2013

before the crash came.

I appreciate your video mocking me but not your search.

In international financial terms it was important. which I noticed trends

I like math and things that add up

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
23. Did you watch the video?
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 04:29 PM
Jul 2013

They just uploaded it four hours ago-

Greatness! I wish I had been there


For the premiere episode of VICE Canada's first original food show, we took our host Matty Matheson out to Markham—a Toronto suburb known for excellent Chinese food. After an insane night out on St. Patrick's Day, our guest chef Nick Liu cooked us an amazing comfort food meal to vaporize Matty's hangover. It was awesome. Hope you enjoy.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
6. Did you put them in your DU journal? They should still be there, then.
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 03:32 PM
Jul 2013

Here's your old journal: http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Ichingcarpenter

I didn't bother to try to go through it, but you would know what you put in there, yes?

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
13. My journal..... was never updated
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 03:48 PM
Jul 2013

nor cared by from me and things I saw as fun Its worthless



I asked for the LBN's posts

on the stories on the banks and the feds.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
28. You can use advanced search in Google and find what you want.
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 05:03 PM
Jul 2013

As for your journal, it looks like much of your output is in there, so start reading.

I think your expecting others to do your homework for you is just wrong. I'm not really sure what your complaint is, either.

Perhaps you might want to step back and regroup for a bit.

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
7. "Link rot"
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 03:33 PM
Jul 2013

Known malady. Links only stay good as long as they're maintained as content is moved to new, updated servers. Or, the site hosting the link goes bye-bye. Lotsa stuff like that. Isn't there a "Wayback machine" or something that will possibly help for this? Thought there was.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
10. It's not 'link rot' unless that refers to the synapses in some people's heads.
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 03:35 PM
Jul 2013

They don't have their membership stars. They can't search--or some such nonsense.

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
9. Sept 10 2001 WaPo, Cheney and Rumsfeld "war gaming" a 747 hitting The Pentagon.
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 03:35 PM
Jul 2013

cannot find a link anymore

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
16. Just a quick look around, something like this?
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 03:57 PM
Jul 2013
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x309937

A Fed panic and a massive bailout of American banks paid for by the entire world

By Rodrigue Tremblay
Online Journal Guest Writer

Sep 24, 2007


.....

As a consequence, mortgage debt as a percentage of disposable income in the U.S. is at the highest level it has been in 75 years, reaching 100 percent, while consumer debt has risen to its highest level in history. All this makes the economy more vulnerable than it has been since the 1929-39 depression. Another consequence of this binge of easy money has been the frenzy of leveraged buy-outs and industrial concentration that we have observed over the last few years.

Finally, let's put the cherry on the cake. Indeed, there is a most disturbing piece in former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan's recent memoirs (The Age of Turbulence) and in the explanations he gave in interviews granted to promote his book, and it is his confession that while he was chairman of the Fed he actively lobbied Vice President Dick Cheney for a U.S. attack on Iraq. If this was the case, it was most inappropriate for a central banker to act this way, especially when he had other things to do than lobbying in favor of an illegal war. Does it mean that Mr. Greenspan was an active member of the pro-Israel Lobby within the U.S. government and joined the Wolfowitz-Feith-Abrams-Perle-Kissinger cabal? It would seem to me that such behavior would call for an investigation.

Indeed, to what extent was the pro-Israel Lobby responsible for the Iraq war and the deficits it generated? Already, polls indicate that 40 percent of American voters believe the pro-Israel Lobby has been a key factor in going to war in Iraq and that it is now very active in promoting a new war against Iran. This figure is bound to rise as more and more people confront the facts behind this most disastrous and ill-conceived war. Indeed, how many wars can this lobby be allowed to engineer before being stopped? And, to what extent can the current financial turmoil in U.S. and world markets be traced back to the influence of this most corrosive lobby?
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
17. Check this out.
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 03:59 PM
Jul 2013
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2011/11/fed-gave-banks-trillions-in-bailout-bloomberg-reports/

By Bill McGuire
Nov 28, 2011 11:59am

In a story that sheds new light on the extent of the country’s financial crisis, Bloomberg Markets magazine reported today that the Federal Reserve lent trillions of dollars to beleaguered financial institutions, with $1.2 trillion going out on just one day in 2008.

“The Fed didn’t tell anyone which banks were in trouble so deep they required a combined $1.2 trillion on Dec. 5, 2008, their single neediest day. Bankers didn’t mention that they took tens of billions of dollars in emergency loans at the same time they were assuring investors their firms were healthy,” Bloomberg reported today. ”And no one calculated until now that banks reaped an estimated $13 billion of income by taking advantage of the Fed’s below-market rates.”

Bloomberg Markets said it went over 29,000 pages of Fed documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act and central bank records of more than 21,000 transactions.

snot

(10,529 posts)
27. K&R'd!
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 04:53 PM
Jul 2013

I've encountered the same phenomenon in other subject areas. Inconvenient info published by governmental agencies or newspapers of record – even The New York Times – gets vacuumed. E.g., a critical sentence got vacuumed out of a NYT article on the 2004 election exit polling; and various items of embarrassing info got vacuumed off of government sites relating to the Katrina disaster.

I.m.h.o., we should all make a practice of copying and preserving critical info in NON-Cloud-based locations, together with the original URL and date where/when it was found. (The Internet Archive preserves only a very tiny fraction of what's out there.)

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
29. Example: Gary Webb was right: CIA Sold Dope (Cocaine Importation Agency)
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 05:45 PM
Jul 2013
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2853170

Another one I really liked:

Vice President Bush’s Inside Track to Power

Note how even the Wayback Machine can't get to that one. Another that I'd like to share, but is nowhere to be found:

Information is Better than Gold

Another good example from Winterboy:

One Bush becomes a head of the WWI War Industries Board (enriching his family and friends); a second Bush later brokers weapons investments for Nazi Germany (enriching his family and friends); and a third Bush creates the largest annual defense budget in world history (enriching his family and friends)!


SOURCE still available via Way Bac: http://web.archive.org/web/20040315023134/http://www.winterboy.com/dejavu.html

PS: Those interested in preserving history before it is scrubbed and sent down the memory hole by the good folks at your local data collection center should download their own copy of the 520 page e-book above.

PPS: Many of the original articles and sites from then are no longer around. I'm not saying links don't expire, web sites never go kaput, or articles don't get re-filed; but I do notice some things are getting harder and harder to find and some subjects seem to be getting scrubbed.

xiamiam

(4,906 posts)
31. I'll tell you another which bothers me
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 07:49 PM
Jul 2013

a few years ago, dec, January 2010 or 2011 (cant remember right this sec), when the birds were falling out of the sky and hundreds of tons of fish washing up on shores around the world, and herds of animals started dropping dead..etc etc etc. One person put up the most amazing interactive map with links to the news source where the event was occurring. It was the most accurate and up do date map on the web with legitimate news source, exact location, and number of animals, fish, birds dying ..hundreds, thousands, tons. He then put together all of the known events for the last century on a different map. .. which had happened but not like this, ever before, although any us news coverage always said, well this has happened all the time before. Really? I have been alive for a long time and I had never heard of it before ..or at least not in these numbers, around the world, and this diverse. It was a big deal and this website was incredibly detailed and swiftly created. .and legitimate. Lots of interesting comments worldwide about the particular event. Keep in mind, this all happened in a very short time frame..just a few months from mid to late December and into February.. guess what? it just vanished.. no record of it anywhere. Lots of people like me were monitoring that site and for a few months afterwards, you could find people googling and asking where it went..hocus pocus..gone, forever... as if it never happened. But it did..and it was a huge deal. You might find a few mentions of that time when I believe some weird experiments were going on. I don't really know about that part, but something unnatural occurred. I just don't know what.

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