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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 05:35 PM Jul 2013

Tim Allen chimes in on the N-word

he's for it.

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/tim-allen-discusses-deens-n-word-145100462.html

The 60-year-old Home Improvement star was interviewed by Tampa Bay Times critic Eric Deggans on the day "controversy ignited over Paula Deen's admitted use of that slur in 1986." Defending use of the word, Allen told the newspaper, &quot The phrase) 'the n-word' is worse to me than n*****."

Allen said of Deen's predicament, "I've had this argument on stage a million times. I do a movie with Martin Lawrence and pretty soon they’re referring to me, 'Hey, my n*****'s up.' So I'm the n***** if I'm around you guys but seven feet away, if I said n*****, it's not right. It's very confusing to the European mind how that works, especially if I've either grown up or evolved or whatever, it literally was growing up in Colorado, with Hispanics and Anglos, that's all I remember. So when Paula Deen (admits her language), they go after her, and now we've gone backwards in the world. She said n***** in '83 or something?"...

"If I have no intent, if I show no intent, if I clearly am not a racist, then how can 'n*****' be bad coming out of my mouth?"

Allen didn't stop there, "In Webster's old dictionary the word 'n*****' means unemployed and indigent dock worker. That's one definition. So I said, (to my brother) in that case ...he lives in Boston and he's not employed ...so you'd be a n*****. And he goes, yeah. If my brother told me not to call him a dingleberry in front of my mother, ‘cause I knew it pissed him… pisses me off. As soon as Mom left, and I wanted to piss him off? I'd say 'dingleberry, dingleberry, dingleberry.' So if you're around a word to be problematic for you and low intellect or uninvolved people find that out, they’re gonna call you n***** all day long 'cause they know you don’t like it. And I said, so this debate rages in the public, but when it gets to the comedy world, we're not even allowed to say it, and I gotta refer to it as the N-word, F-word, B-word ...it gets all the way down the line. It gets really intense; we're running backwards."




Dingleberry, dingleberry, dingleberry!
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Tim Allen chimes in on the N-word (Original Post) KamaAina Jul 2013 OP
He's trying to get back in the spotlight, apparently. Quantess Jul 2013 #1
I can see where his logic comes from... WCGreen Jul 2013 #8
I agree Bethany Rockafella Jul 2013 #15
Another member of the Victoria Jackson/Dennis Miller/Kelsey Grammer group tularetom Jul 2013 #2
Ain't that a fact! nt. Blue Idaho Jul 2013 #22
I used to love dingleberries! zappaman Jul 2013 #3
Any chance an old-fashioned candy shop would still carry them? derby378 Jul 2013 #11
I've tried like hell to find them because no one believes me! zappaman Jul 2013 #12
Can someone parse that word salad for me? Rex Jul 2013 #4
Basically, he said "n*****", "n*****", "n*****", "n*****", "n*****", "n*****", "n*****", "n*****". KamaAina Jul 2013 #5
Ah I C, thanks I couldn't make heads or tails out of what he was saying. Rex Jul 2013 #7
then Louis CK is also for it. nt Dreamer Tatum Jul 2013 #6
I really find him funny libodem Jul 2013 #13
The comments! redwitch Jul 2013 #9
If it's "just a word" then why are people so vehement about being able to say it? nomorenomore08 Jul 2013 #10
"It's very confusing to the European mind how that works" loyalsister Jul 2013 #19
Meanwhile, while we are busy shutting each other down... dogknob Jul 2013 #14
he's an idiot warrior1 Jul 2013 #16
That show of his was insipid. n/t dogknob Jul 2013 #17
His real name is Dick. GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #18
Tim Allen? Didn't he used to exist? Orrex Jul 2013 #20
i had a dumbshit boss who loved his show markiv Jul 2013 #21

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
8. I can see where his logic comes from...
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 05:52 PM
Jul 2013

We are about the same age, but I don't understand why he has to insert his opinion into something like this.

I find it a little juvenile to hear grown adults saying the N Word. That's the same, to me at least, as people saying the F Word.

Say it or don't say it, the intent is there.

I don't particularly enjoy being called an old white dude or honky.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
2. Another member of the Victoria Jackson/Dennis Miller/Kelsey Grammer group
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 05:43 PM
Jul 2013

of comedians who were never really funny but have managed to stay in the news by spouting ignorant right wing opinions.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
3. I used to love dingleberries!
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 05:43 PM
Jul 2013

Great candy but they don't make them anymore.
Although I bet I could make them at home if I really wanted to...

derby378

(30,252 posts)
11. Any chance an old-fashioned candy shop would still carry them?
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 06:05 PM
Jul 2013

I still find horehound candy in my neck of the woods once in a while.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
12. I've tried like hell to find them because no one believes me!
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 06:08 PM
Jul 2013

They were kinda like sweet tarts or sprees and came in the same kind of packaging.
Last time I saw them was in the late 80's at some outlet store.
Bought a case of 24 but I ate most of them over time because I had no idea they were discontinued!
If you find any, please let me know!

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
5. Basically, he said "n*****", "n*****", "n*****", "n*****", "n*****", "n*****", "n*****", "n*****".
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 05:47 PM
Jul 2013

Kind of like Giuliani and Nineleven(TM).

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
7. Ah I C, thanks I couldn't make heads or tails out of what he was saying.
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 05:51 PM
Jul 2013

Ugh. Giuliani and 9/11. I bet he wears a superman cape now that says 9/11 on the back.

redwitch

(14,944 posts)
9. The comments!
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 05:57 PM
Jul 2013
indeed. How is it that so many racists don't know they are racist? Because they are ignorant and content to wallow in it? It ould be wonderful if we really could end racism someday.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
10. If it's "just a word" then why are people so vehement about being able to say it?
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 06:01 PM
Jul 2013

Why not find another word that's less loaded and inflammatory? Is it really that hard?

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
19. "It's very confusing to the European mind how that works"
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 08:21 PM
Jul 2013

Is he saying all white people are stupid, or just admitting his own incredulity at not being able to entertain his "European mind" with offensive rhetoric?

dogknob

(2,431 posts)
14. Meanwhile, while we are busy shutting each other down...
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 06:57 PM
Jul 2013

...REAL racists have moved on and implement their sociopathic worldview in new and innovative ways...

"They're still beating each other up over that word. They'll never get around to voting rights!"

"Heh... you said "rights." Heh heh... Dude! being rich and white rocks!"

"DUDE! Believing in nothing rocks! Look at those idiots; you can jerk on their "beliefs" and "values" and they jump!"

"Totally! Hey. You still puttin' that bitch through college?"

"One? how about three? Little whores'll do anything for an "education."

"Hey. we should be careful. Someone might be recording this..."

"Ha! Where will they post it? Some dyke will see "bitch" and "whore" and alert it!

"Hehe. Fuckin' morans."




 

markiv

(1,489 posts)
21. i had a dumbshit boss who loved his show
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 09:11 PM
Jul 2013

so i automatically hated it, even though i never saw it

i figured if he liked it, it had to be really lame

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