Young American whites have become a bunch of idiotic hooligans..

[HipChick]

In the 1940s, young American whites fought Nazis. In the late '60s, they fought injustice. Now, many have become selfish idiotic thugs with no culture, morals or any other mission but drinking and mayhem. Why are parents and politicians tolerating these violent imbeciles?

A frightening and violent mob swept through the normally quiet seaside community of Huntington Beach last night following a surfing competition in the area. Businesses were vandalized and looted, portable toilets overturned, and brutal fistfights waged right out in the open. It was an ugly display and a sad day for California. But more than that, it was a reminder that we must begin to seriously consider the values of our thuggish white youth.

Many people don't want to hear this kind of tough love, of course. They'd like to bury their heads in the sand and pretend that all white children are as sweet and harmless as Taylor Swift. But the reality is that the statistics tell a different story. For instance, according to research from the Department of Justice, 84 percent of white murder victims are killed by other white people [PDF]. Similarly, white rape victims tend to be raped by other whites [PDF]. White-on-white violence is a menace to white communities across the country, and yet you never hear white leaders like Pastor Joel Osteen, Bill O'Reilly, or Hillary Clinton take a firm stance against the scourge.

More important than white politicians are the white parents. I'd like to ask the caregivers of the children in these videos what they've been doing. When did so many white parents fall asleep at the wheel? You can complain about poor schools all you'd like, but the fact of the matter is that it's the parents of these children who are letting them leave the house looking like slobs in their baggy board shorts and Hollister t-shirts. It's the parents of these kids who are letting them listen to violent, self-destructive trash like "Anarchy in the UK" or "Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue"—performed loudly by noted conservative rocker Johnny Ramone.

As I said, I know a lot of whites don't want to hear this kind of tough talk. But as an American of color who considers himself an ally to the white community, I'm just tired of seeing young, belligerent white people disgrace themselves year after year at surfing events, horse racing infields, and Ivy League campuses. Whites in America have been out from under their European ancestors' boot heels for centuries; California specifically outlawed preferences for nonwhites in state hiring and education nearly two decades ago. So being "oppressed" is no longer an excuse for behavior like this. How long must we wait for the white community to get its act together?

http://gawker.com/video-of-violent-rioting-surfers-shows-white-culture-o-954939719/961550607

[OneGrassRoot]

1. K&R n/t

[brush]

108. OH SNAP!

Where did this come from? There is so much truth in this. 84% of white murder victims are murdered by whites. I've been saying this in response to all the posters and posts that bring up black-on-black crime as a way to switch topics away from racial injustice like the trial of that murderer zimmerman.

All I have to say to them is turnabout is fair play.

[antigone382]

2. This is absolutely brilliant.

Thank you. It reminds me of an article I read in a religion class in which a woman rather scoffingly and condesceningly explained why, from a theological perspective, men were simply not suitable to be priests. It is so eye-opening to see the dominant group put in the place that lower status groups typically occupy.

[elehhhhna]

59. should say young american white men

[tblue]

106. Chris Rock said it first:

So brilliant.

[Voice for Peace]

140. "white boys shooting up that school"

I'm trying to remember when young black males
went into a school and randomly shot everybody
they could find.

[rl6214]

145. No, the young black men/boy just shot up random people around DC

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beltway_sniper_attacks

[uponit7771]

161. lol....one instance and they weren't even african american

[rl6214]

194. They weren't even African Americans?

Do you know anything about the beltway snipers?

[uponit7771]

195. No, they were Jamaican...regards

[rl6214]

218. They were not white...which this thread is about

[Voice for Peace]

167. you're right (though Mohammed wasn't a young black man by any means)

I was living there at the time and it was scary because
everyone thought they were in a white van. Every other
vehicle on the Beltway was a white van. And the
shootings were so random.

I didn't really think through what I wrote in the previous
post -- but it is related to what disaffected young men
tend to do when they have guns. I don't know if there
is really a difference between races in that regard.
It's all lost boys full of anger and hate.
Nobody taught them about their own human hearts.

That could be nipped in the bud within a generation.
If there were enough love.
There is, but people don't use it.

[heaven05]

174. your

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wikipedia explanation did not address the fact that young white males have been shooting up schools, killing small children, and movie theaters, college campuses, although vir. tech was an asian-american shooter. address that randomness. geez

[uponit7771]

196. Nah, better to concentrate on the one instance of some Jamaicans going on a shooting spree...

...and call them African American /sarcarsm

[Skittles]

3. LOVE this

it really drives the racism home

[RagAss]

4. Countless white males in their mid to late 20's are developing opiate addictions the likes...

of which have never been seen before in any generation in America. We can all thank Big Pharma and Oxycodone for this fucking mess.

[Unknown Beatle]

27. Don't you think that Big Pharma

glutted the market with Oxycodone with the express purpose of keeping the masses tranquil with the advice of the PTB?

[elehhhhna]

58. LOL the did it for the MONEYYYYYYYYYYYyy

no more no less.




If they flooded tranquility drugs, they'd flood 'em w/ Xanax,

Oh, wait.

[Voice for Peace]

142. many many kids raised in crappy daycare & medicated with antidepressants and amphetamines by their

doctors
=
tendency toward adult misbehaviors.

[Wilms]

6. The author added a hilarious comment.

Just so nobody gets the wrong idea, I should probably say here that my best friend is white.

[wryter2000]

171. Priceless

[think]

176. I saw an interview with the author on TV where he said this

I laughed almost to tears!

[Link Speed]

7. It's Bad Parenting 101

I see it every day.

The pics from HB were sickening.

Whoever let those punks believe that acting out like that is OK are just as fucked up as those fucking punk kids.

Parents who defend their little shits' bad behavior, right in front of the Little Shit.

Parents who actually allow their Little Shit(s) to run around decent restaurants, unchecked, and get feisty when called on it.

I see it, every day.

[pinboy3niner]

8. Chris Hayes has a segment on this coming up on his MSNBC show. nt

[Link Speed]

10. I was about to post that

but you beat me to it.

Say, it appears as if we are of the same vintage...

So, I have to ask...

Did your user name follow you from SE Asia? I have heard similar on handsets (or whatever radio guys called them).

[pinboy3niner]

14. Interesting segment

Yeah, my username is the last radio callsign I had in-country.

Welcome to DU!

[HipChick]

15. I hate when MSNBC steals my stuff

serves me right for tweeting them though...

[pinboy3niner]

17. LOL!

Well, that was the author of the Gawker piece Chris had on...

[HipChick]

21. DOH! I don't have his pull to get folks booked..

[Jamaal510]

75. Many times,

they seem to be slow on the news, and some of the stuff they cover is what came out days ago on DU.

[kestrel91316]

9. Excellent!

[ileus]

11. Jobs....they need jobs, something to do.

Pay the bills, buy a car, mortgage a home, have children.

Get to fucking work.

[GlashFordan]

12. Is this an onion.com article

Or poorly executed snark?

[npk]

37. Did you click on the link?

There is a video of the violence.

[Enrique]

81. you are enabling young white men's bad behavior

[lolly]

152. It's a description of an actual event covered on the news

Delivered--in a very well-executed delivery--in the same tone many white newscasters use to describe any event that puts minorities in a bad light.

(why did that even need to be said?)

[bvar22]

177. poorly executed snark?

No, it is High Quality Satire intended for an intelligent audience.
I give it Two Thumbs UP!

[Link Speed]

13. Watching Chris Hayes, there were a lot of Hispanics involved.

Fucking punks, every one.

Look what happened to Occupiers.

[pipoman]

16. Actually, what is idiotic

is stating "Young American whites have become a bunch of idiotic hooligans". Racism is racism. And to make a completely, demonstrably false statement such as this, then tie it to race is idiotic (among other things) indeed..

[zeemike]

29. I agree

If you do what the racist do you justify it...so now you cannot say anything if someone says "Young American blacks have become a bunch of idiotic hooligans".
It does nothing but escalate the tension and name calling...nothing good can come from it

[M0rpheus]

86. You both forgot the :Sarcasm: tag.

Just reminding you, because I'd be sad if you were both serious.

Just in case you are, keep in mind these 2 things:

1. That this is a post from a gossip site. It's parody! Maybe if it was written by the Onion, you might have noticed.

2. That the exact reverse happens in the news every fucking day.

This is commentary on the breathless reporting/pearl clutching about black people and their "propensity for violence".



seriously

[zeemike]

91. No it was not sarcasm...dead serious.

And if it is a joke it is a sick one...IMO.
If it had been written by the Onion it would been funny...I saw nothing funny in it at all...and in fact seemed to try to stir the shit.
IMO.

[M0rpheus]

97. Um... wow...

So, one article with tongue firmly in cheek is somehow going to shut down the "open conversation" we've been having about racism?

Can you help me out with why it's such a "sick" joke?

Edit: added for context. Watch the whole thing... OR skip to 6:38 for the point.

[yesphan]

134. Yep, @ 6:38

the whole friggin point.
Very well done if you ask me.

[NOLALady]

104. O My!

[Sheldon Cooper]

117. lol

[noiretextatique]

122. you cannot be serious

Non-white people deal with articles just like this one on a daily basis. From headline stories to letters to the editors: this exactly what we see constantly.

[zeemike]

126. Yes they do.

And by making it about white people it lends legitimacy to the meme...but no one here seems to get that point...two wrongs do not make a right...even if ment as a joke.

[noiretextatique]

128. i think it is: a bitter dose of medicine

Unfortunately the people who need this medicine will not be able to take it. I really despise that "two wrongs" meme, which always surfaces in racial discussions. I think it is a positive if it makes people THINK about issues in a different way. How did Trayvon Martin morph from teenager with tea and candy walking home to thug out to kill poor George? The constant negative publc commentary about black kids surely influenced the opinion of some. I think this author hopes people will think, not just react defensively.

[zeemike]

130. It would be nice if it worked that way.

But what it really does is encourage devisivness...those who are racist will see it as an excuse to continue it.
The reason why MLK was successful was because he did not engage in the same behavior he was fighting against...he knew and understood that it is a loser, and so did Gandhi.

You may hate the two wrongs don't make a right saying but it has a basis in fact, and does not heal anything but just picks at the scab.
IMO.

[lolly]

154. I suspect some of the people on this post thought Swift really wanted to cook and eat Irish babies.

n/t

[heaven05]

205. AWWWW!

"Two wrongs don't make a right". Isn't that precious. How about all the wrongs painted against young black males and black males in particular in just the last year by all MSM, jury's in Sanford Florida and elsewhere? The one you're responding too made a point you're trying to cover up with some pseudo moralistic bullshit that has never been true about amerikkka. It's racist, backward and ignorant culture has perpetrated wrong on the black race since the time when slavery and segregation were the law of the land. By the way, SCOTUS and the rest of the Rand Paul neanderthals are trying to revive those two great amerikkkan institutions. You're ignoring or missing the real point yourself. Gimme a break!

[zeemike]

207. It was not intended to be "precious"

And your rational is that their obvious wrong justifies this acction...which is exactly the reason two wrongs do not make a right or solve anything and continues the conflict.
I don't expect you can see that...much easier to believe I am a racist enabler or an out and out racist myself.
And that is where this conversation is leading, so I am through with it.

[heaven05]

208. well

it was. No Ghandi, maybe one day you'll see your dream of no wrong. Until then, your idealism ......well I'll say it's somewhat naive. Good luck!

[zeemike]

210. I am not naive at all

I know full well I will be dead before this world ever see peace.
Too many people enjoy the conflict.

[heaven05]

211. well

seriously, I do not enjoy the hate and conflict based on a myriad of reasons. Deep down I applaud you, I guess my cynicism, at 65, has gotten the best of me lately. Go figure. May you stay at peace with your world.

[zeemike]

212. Well at 70 I am just as cynical as you.

But it don't mean I cannot still dream...in fact really that is all that is left that gives me pleasure.

[heaven05]

213. ahhh!

true. Thanks, maybe there's hope yet.

[heaven05]

215. So

how do we stop the racism, bigotry and racist murders in amerikkka? The SCOTUS and government taking rights, voting and human, away from the citizens? How are we going to stop the corporations from raping and pillaging the land and people in the name of god awful profit? How are we going to stop sectarian violence in Iraq, civil war in Syria except to point it out and keep pointing it out. How are we going to stop people like Bush and cheney's PNAC and Ginny Thomas from instigating racial hate and imperialistic conquest. How do we turn off faux new, rush oxycontinbaugh, beckerhead, o'really, hannitydown racism. How? Concentrate on the goodness in the world and ignore what impacts me personally? You got an answer? Teach it!!!!!

[heaven05]

219. yep

yep, on the "turn it off". Don't watch or listen anymore for quite a long while now. Was forced to listen to the oxycontin king at work for a while till everyone with a conscience put their for down. My hannity, oxyking info comes from sites like these. I do not do hate and injustice, I just react to it, sometimes emotionally and what may be deemed by the more civil set here as inappropriately, TM and zimPIG, babies lying torn and dead in the streets of syria, iraq ect come to mind. The only way to ignore, really, is to be in a cave somewhere out in the boonies. Your suggestions, wishadoo, community action for jobs, food, fresh and otherwise, great. Have done some of those things. Don't ever get me wrong, no feeling of helplessness here, just a lot of sadness covered by anger, my way,to deal personally and yes I DO FEEL empathy, sympathy and other peoples pain caused by the injustice and evil in this country and world. That's not, to me, enabling, I call it sharing. Action is possible, and I think I understand that you think local is a start, maybe it will grow to regional, national? Americans unless dragged kicking and screaming to these forums, the 47% who voted for romshit, listen to the oxyking, faux news are for the most part not interested in those, job, school, university 'rap' session in any substantial manner. I look at university bulletins, race, job discussions? Not many at all. Economics, how to gain admission to the 1% club, big time. Dialogue, we're having it so that's a start, here. Everything you say, possible, but not probable in any substantive manner. Small self sustaining enclaves are the only hope, communes as it were, for decent people to survive the coming chaos. Have a good one.

[muriel_volestrangler]

198. "If it had been written by the Onion it would been funny" - so place of publication alone matters?

You seem to be saying that satire can only appear in The Onion. How does that work?

[pinboy3niner]

199. Even The Onion would not have executed this as well as Cord Jefferson did

It's masterful in its own right--whatever the media source.

[heaven05]

203. Amerikkkan

racist culture "stirs the shit". Something like this just points out the hypocrisy. Sanford Forida, the state of Floida HAS "STIRRED THE SHIT"! Until O'really?, rush oxycontinbaugh, glenn beckerhead and all the rest of the white hatemongers stop "stirring the shit", things like this post will help by pointing out the hypocrisy of making all blacks thugs when one does run afoul of the law. Yeah youngish white males can and are thuggish and just as bad as any other race. Period. geez

[zeemike]

206. Well tit for tat has never healed anything.

But no need for me to try to convince anyone here of that...they simply don't care because they get satisfaction from it...and so it will continue.
Geez

[erpowers]

116. Being Sarcastic

I am fairly certain the author was being sarcastic. The author points out the stupidity and hypocrisy of white politicians painting all black youth with a broad brush and constantly asking black politicians to go talk to black youth (mainly black male youth).

One of the points of the post seems to be to show that "completely, demonstrably false statements such as this" are made about black youth everyday. The statements made in that post are the statements that are made everyday about black youth.

[noiretextatique]

119. it is satire

It is am attempt to make the same idiotic claims about white kids and culture that are routinely made about black kids and culture.

[bullwinkle428]

135. Newsflash : Stephen Colbert is actually just playing a character.

[rl6214]

147. Agreed

Race has nothing to do with it. Author is just trying to stir things up.

[lolly]

156. If by stirring things up

You mean calling attention to the dangers of over-generalization, then yes, he is.

[heaven05]

173. It's

false because the subjects are white? It's not racist to call a bunch of out of control, entitled white males hooligans and thugs if the description fits their behavior. They're privileged thugs. geez

[pipoman]

178. All of them?

Duh..

[heaven05]

179. actually

I think this posting was some kind of satire. Yet I have been in situations on the beach, in clubs, different musical events, and yes, I have seen bad behavior by young whites. Just human nature. But if the same behavior is observed in young blacks all are smeared with negative stereotype of a racist nature. Just american human nature. Duh.

[heaven05]

204. MSM

media has been painting young black males and black males, in general, with that broad brush since before I can remember. AWWWW.

[ljm2002]

221. It is satire...

...meant to point out the idiocy of similar statements about American blacks that we see constantly on news programs, in newspapers and magazines. You seem to be taking it totally at face value, and if that is how it was intended by the writer, you might have a point; but I don't think you are engaging in the conversation that the writer intends.

[petronius]

18. It's unfortunate and maybe a little unfair that the actions of this subset stains

the entire white community, but what are you going to do? When you encounter a random white person, you can't really tell if you're dealing with one of the bad apples or with a good one; common sense requires caution. If white society resents that, too bad - perhaps it will be a wake-up call to take some responsibility...


(And FTR I'm one of the good ones - I hardly ever smash windows or tip porta-potties. Really!)

[HipChick]

19. They ought to go back where they came from..

Europe...

[athenasatanjesus]

20. They're listening to too much gangsta rap.

[Scootaloo]

38. Actually, that's true

White males between 15 and thirty ARE the #1 audience of gangsta rap. In fact some consider the genre to be a modern form of minstrel shows, with mostly-black performers putting on a caricatured act denigrating to black people, for the enjoyment of a white audience.

[Number23]

79. Yes, black people are the reason young whites are losing it.

The fact that the snark of this OP is flying over so many heads in GD should come as a shock to me. But the only shock is how not shocking that is.

[M0rpheus]

100. I'd be shocked... SHOCKED! if you were shocked.

[Number23]

107. ...

Sometimes I do all five of these things reading some of the posts on this web site about race.

Did you see my post dowthread? It's interesting that the post you made in the AA group doesn't say anything white kids "fighting for social justice and Nazis." Do you think the author felt some pressure that he wasn't being suitably lauding of white people and put that in so that the criticism didn't seem so strong?

[M0rpheus]

111. The OP here, starts with a comment from the comment section, and then goes on to the article.

The gawker article remains the same.

http://gawker.com/video-of-violent-rioting-surfers-shows-white-culture-o-954939719

[Jamaal510]

82. Gangsta' rap hasn't been in the mainstream since the early 90s.

Most mainstream rap today is about hitting up clubs and getting drunk and high. The harder, more explicit rap is underground now.

[malaise]

22. Delish

If you dig one ditch you'd better dig two

[Starry Messenger]

23. I cross the street when I see them coming.

I've heard they mix Doritos and Mountain Dew with Milk Duds into something that makes them high.

[pinboy3niner]

26. Those damn Beliebers!

[Starry Messenger]

36. They pose with weapons on Facebook-how can they be trusted?

[Dr. Strange]

131. I often cross the street when I see a Bieber fan coming...

so I can make fun of them to their face.

[IDemo]

24. "normally quiet seaside community"?

That's not even close to the Huntington Beach I can remember from the days when Gerald Ford was president.

[Initech]

25. And the really sad thing is: Justin Bieber is their leader. Whether they like it or not.

He's just the epitome of the white douchebag young kid.

[Nye Bevan]

31. Especially with his misogynistic lyrics, which encourage rape and violence,

as well as drug use, and killing cops, and freely use the word "cracka".

[Initech]

45. You have to try to be as big of a douchebag as Bieber is.

He thinks Anne Frank would have been one of his fans, pees into mop buckets, defaced pictures of former presidents, spits off balconies, drives gaudy sports cars recklessly, and drinks codeine cough syrup. That's all within two months.

[npk]

28. A little OT: As a white man I have never felt threatened once in my life by a African American...

or Hispanic individual. All of my problems have come from stupid white rednecks who have tried to assault me or threatened to do harm. I have witnessed some nasty, thuggish violence in North Florida and Southern Georgia throughout my life, and it has always been the same people - white idiots. Yet when I watch the news it's never on there or if it is it's buried at the end of the newscast. Unfortunately the news media in this country is all to quick to show the latest gang violence, but rarely ever covers white gangs like the gang that shot up a Vegas Casino not that long ago. It was covered briefly and buried into the rest of the news. Could you have imagined if an African American gang had gone into a casino in Vegas and shot it up, the damn National Guard would have been called.

[relayerbob]

34. Yep!

[mbperrin]

166. As a 61 year old white man, let me second your comments with one addition:

some of those idiotic white trash bastids are my relatives.

Most in prison finally, but it took 20 years for the family name not to be enough to "step out of the car, please, and lie face down with your arms outstretched."

I only wish this were sarcasm or a joke in any way.

[stonecutter357]

168. K&R

This^^^

[AlbertCat]

30. Next thing you know....

.... they'll be wearing jeans and Tshirts everywhere, smoking cigarettes, and riding motorcycles!

[limpyhobbler]

32. George Will links Detroit bankruptcy to ‘cultural’ problems and ‘unmarried mothers’ ?

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/28/george-will-links-detroit-bankruptcy-to-cultural-problems-and-unmarried-mothers/


It's a parody of the recent George Will thing, or something like that.

The point is to demonstrate how ridiculous it sounds when you apply the same standards to white people that George Will, O'Reilly, et al., apply to black people.

This parody is hilarious, I love it.

[relayerbob]

33. "When did so many white parents fall asleep at the wheel?"

Exactly the right question... and I can tell you it was at the latest in the early 1990s. I recall some of the neighbors coddling their kids to unbelievable degrees (one kid would just sit down and cry when he couldn't tie his shoes - at 5!), and now all these years later, I have applicants for jobs (in their late 20s) having their *mothers* call in to tell me how wonderful their child is.

Discipline went out the window along with common sense, and sadly too many of these parents are themselves quite out of control. As an example, some 30s-ish guy tried to pass me on the shoulder so he could get to a corner (and pick up about 10 seconds in his trip), and when the light changed, he pulled up next to me, hollering how he was going to beat me (I'm a nearly 60 year old partially disabled white guy - one punch and he'd be in for murder, most likely), and that I was a "punk"!!!! These kids see this type of behavior and they assume it's correct, especially as they have been given everything their whole lives. Yes, they need jobs, but if they really want jobs? Let them start with the discipline of mowing lawns - they didn't do it at 14, maybe they should get out of Mommy's basement and start now!

Sorry for the rant and hopefully no offense to anyone.

[Nye Bevan]

35. The National Guard should have been dispatched

as soon as the first Porta-Potty was toppled over. At that point it was obvious that things were going to get very ugly indeed.

[They_Live]

69. You can say that again

they just toppled over all the bathrooms, and they'll probably need them later.

[Dustlawyer]

39. I agree somewhat. I think the problem stems from the fact that white families do not have

the income they used to have so both parents have to work long and hard. Their kids are more and more being left to their own devices. I do agree it has gotten worse, and parents are the ones ultimately responsible.

[relayerbob]

42. These people are young adults in many cases.

Their problems started 18-20 years ago. Plus, frankly, blaming long work hours doesn't cut it to me, as whites have far better job prospects than other ethnic groups. A better excuse is living far beyond their means and spoiling their children, rather than teach them self-control and maybe making do with less. Wonder how many of the kids who rioted have pools in their backyards?

[alfredo]

47. The next generations will never live up to the standards set by past generations.

[Dustlawyer]

49. Whites do have better job prospects than minorities, but not as good as they used to.

This started 35 years ago or so in the Reagan revolution. Many whites had good factory jobs which disappeared a long time ago. I am not saying that whites have it as bad or worse than minorities, they just have it a lot worse than they used to.
Not familiar with the area, but there have always been spoiled white kids making trouble as well. Everything has gotten worse in the last 35-40 years with the exception of the very rich. Americans work more than the citizens of almost every other industrialized nation during that time span, but it wasn't always the case. I can remember my lower middle class white neighborhood growing up, most of the moms were home with us. I live in an upper middle class neighborhood now and everyone works here!

[The Magistrate]

40. Excellent, Ma'am

Seems to have caught some out here, too....

[RainDog]

41. k&r n/t

[msongs]

43. surfers nt

[reusrename]

114. surfers with sexwax nt

[Travis_0004]

44. I don't disagree with this article, but this article does show a double standard.

First off, I agree with the article, and what the author says, but as a white guy, if I were to write an article about the problems in the black community, which there are many, I would be labeled as a racist.

There are tons of problems in the Black community, there are tons of problems in the White community.

[BumRushDaShow]

51. But the only thing being reported are the "problems" in the black community

while the white community protects its own and identical types of "problems" are rarely or never reported in the mass media nor are they discussed or harped on.

We all know that particularly among certain young males in a certain age range, there is a higher incidence of criminal activity. However one community is tarred and feathered for the individuals who participate in such (even though the other 90% are law-abiding, but often caught up into the system by no fault of their own) and the other community is let off scott free, nor are they ever repeatedly told that they, as a group, are to blame for their criminals.

And so the populace gets a skewed view of what is really going on out there and the institutionalization of racism continues.

[lolly]

80. That's the point--to show the double standard

Get it?

[BumRushDaShow]

46. K&R

[JohnnyRingo]

48. Yeah, I saw it on the news.

I'm lying, the media sees no interest in showing rich white kids rioting. I doubt they would even use the word "riot" unless there are black people involved. I think white kids do "wilding".

Point well taken.

I was in HB a few years ago and sat on that one rooftop cafe shown in many of the videos. It's a nice place to visit, but I couldn't afford to stay long. Fuck those spoiled brats.

[pinboy3niner]

52. It's been a national story

CNN, for one, has aired it repeatedly in its news coverage, with video of the rioting. You may not have seen it, but if you search you'll find a lot of reports about it in the national MSM.

[another_liberal]

50. What are White Parents doing?

A great many of them are working two jobs and fighting not to lose their homes to some asshole bank. Thanks for asking though.

[vaberella]

54. Tough isn't it though. Blacks and Hispanics have been having it like that for centuries.

But we still carry the title of "lazy" and "waiting for our entitlement."

[DonCoquixote]

66. this reply

deserves to be it's own OP.

[Number23]

85. NAILED IT

[M0rpheus]

112. Absolutely on point!

[GiaGiovanni]

53. The crowd was very mixed racially.

Understand your point, but this wasn't accurate.

[erpowers]

55. Needs to Be Said More

I realize the author of that post is being a little sarcastic, but the things in this article needs to be said more. Especially the stuff about white politicians not lecturing, or being asked to lecture white youth about the errors of their ways. For a few months I have been thinking President Obama should go talk to black young men about violence in the black community when Newt Gringrich, or some other white politician goes to talk to white youth about violence in the white community. I have also thought, President Clinton was applauded for going into the black community and chastising black men for their violent actions; can anyone imagine the outrage if President Obama had the audacity to go before a group of white men a chastise them for their violent behavior. If there were not riots there would be extreme outrage.

[Vanje]

56. Sorry Hipchick.

But you are not that hip.

Did you write this 20 years ago? 30 years ago?

The Ramones haven't put out a significant record since, like 1978. Hell they've all been DEAD for a decade (except the drummer, and drummers dont really count.
Anarchy in the UK was a 1976 release: Sex Pistols.

I think it would be hard to find anyone under 25, who could name one Ramones song.
( For the sake of disclosure, I do, in fact listen to old scratchy Ramones records, but I prefer Rancid, Offspring, Minor Threat, NOFX, etc. I sometimes wear baggy pants,.... but I dont think you meant me, because I'm a grey-haired 58, and besides, I wasn't at Huntington Beach that day.)

Just so you know,

The kids music today is really quite nice. Better than its been for years.

Baggies , No. Its skinny pants now.

I wont even argue with the rest of your screed, but will suggest that you dont judge the all by the actions of a very very few.

The kids are alright. There is increased respect for the environment. Increased self respect:Smoking rates among teens is at a record-breaking low. Homophobia and racism are lower than ever before. Liberal ideology is at a high. They're less sexist. They grew up with smart-professional women, and have more respect for women as intelligent equal members of society.

Most of the youngsters are the best generation I've seen yet.
I have great hope for them.

I'm sure there are a few relict juvenile assholes. Please aquaint yourself with the millions who are not.
And for fucksake , don't bother them about their clothes!

[pinboy3niner]

61. The name of the author of this article is Cord Jefferson. There's a link in the OP... nt

[Vanje]

65. Oh Thank goodness!

Its satire then.

[HipChick]

71. I always fully attribute a link to its writer..

it chaps my chops when one does not..

[Vanje]

98. My mistake

I mistook it for your writing.
You're plenty hip, after all.
and so, actually, is the article's author. I did not recognize it as parody at first reading.

We read some crazy stuff here, that is dead serious, kind of messes with my parody-meter.

I like the article MUCH better as parody.

[BumRushDaShow]

115. Why should it be considered "parody" if it describes actual events?

This is EXACTLY the type of story that is written daily about the black community with the assumption that no such thing happens in the white community. And the white community is never taken to task for the behavior of their "youth".

[noiretextatique]

120. no...they are not

Last edited Wed Jul 31, 2013, 10:59 AM - Edit history (1)

And by some of the replies
here, they would not like that kind of constant scrutiny.

[AverageJoe90]

57. True, there's been plenty of good people out there.....

But, let's remember that there's always been a fair number of dunderheads, morons, dicks, and even downright despicable persons amongst younger whites as well: for example, look at how many people joined the 3rd incarnation of the KKK in the late 'Teens and 1920s, for example. You also had Southern kids and young men in the 1950s & '60s who harassed blacks & Freedom Riders, and others, on the streets of various towns. And then there were lynch mobs during the "Nadir" of race relations. And need I remind you that the majority of these people grew up in traditionalist, authoritarian, reactionary, etc. households?

And I shouldn't need to remind everybody that a fair number of white kids who fought against injustice in the '60s were often ridiculed, and even disowned, by their own families and communities.

I see where Mr. Diaz is coming from, but I think he approached this from a slightly flawed angle. Just my 2 pennies, that's all.

[tblue37]

60. You should read Michael Moore's book _Stupid White Men_.

Here's a link:

http://www.amazon.com/Stupid-White-Men-Excuses/dp/006098726X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1375235210&sr=1-1&keywords=stupid+white+men

In it he points out that most of our problems in this country are caused by white men, and that white men cause the most harm to individuals, as well.

[DirkGently]

62. Ziiiing!

[Fumesucker]

63. Is any week right to stop sniffing glue?

[jumptheshadow]

68. There was glue-sniffing in the 70s...

...and the smoking of banana peels.

[Richard D]

64. I know a large number of young white people

The ones I know are wonderful, open, loving human beings. Perhaps a sub-culture, but there is a lot of them.

[heaven05]

67. thugs

is the word.

[RainDog]

70. the comments at the article are great n/t

[HipChick]

72. They are the best bit of the article

[They_Live]

73. Where are the police?

In these videos I didn't see one policeman. Meanwhile in other parts of the country there's mountains of police in riot gear tazing people singing folk songs.

[usGovOwesUs3Trillion]

74. White juveniles acting up should not be ignored, and swept under the rug for sure, BUT

Pretending that this is something new with this generation, and blaming the parents is absurd, imho.

This is an American culture issue, but it is not exclusive to this generation, nor to whites.

But I strongly agree that this behavior should NOT be swept under the rug, especially when it is used to strengthen the racist 'argument' that other races are 'out of control'.

It's something that is as old as human time, juveniles can and do make poor decisions, especially when they are under the influence of societies most celebrated inebriate, ALCOHOL.


Thanks for sharing

[pinboy3niner]

78. The article is parody. nt

[usGovOwesUs3Trillion]

92. D'oh!

Well, considering all the nonsense you see/hear/read in the M$M these days, it's hard to separate the BS from the ironic anymore.

The onion often gets me, too

[paleotn]

76. Love it! Thanks!

...Whaaa? White kids rioting? Packin' heat? No job? All strung out on drugs? If that's true, why haven't I seen that on O'Reilly? If it ain't on Fox, it can't be true, right?

Funny that my wife has to get on to me every now and then for starting one of those "those damn kids!" rants. Doesn't matter what kids. Just kids in general. Like we never did anything remotely as wild, wacky or downright destructive back in the 70's. Hard working, thrifty, little angels, we were. Guess that officially makes me part of the ole fart set.

[Number23]

77. The previous version of this didn't mention anything about "fighting injustice" and "Nazis"

I guess someone realized that adding that in made young white people sound more heroic or something.

http://gawker.com/video-of-violent-rioting-surfers-shows-white-culture-o-954939719

[7962]

83. Love how you worded the final paragraph,

making it easy to replace 'white" with "black" and get the same point across to the black community.
Because we've all seen those videos too.
Great sarcasm, but it seems asa though only a few noticed.

[HipChick]

84. It appears to have went over the heads of many..

[Spitfire of ATJ]

87. This violent behavior is directly linked to white male anger over having a small penis.

[Mike Nelson]

88. I was put off by this piece, at first...

...because I didn't see this as a problem restricted to one of what people call a "race" simply because they are identified as being members of that "race" (white, in this case). But, therein is the satire.

[SwampG8r]

89. this is sweet satire but a part of my old white man self

agrees 100%
the incivility and lack of basic courtesies among the people I meet of every color makes me sad

[Igel]

90. Useful data.

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf

[Raine]

93. LOVE it!!! nt

[BlueCheese]

94. It took me a while to get it, but I eventually did.

Excellent satire, for sure.

[Vanje]

95. Teenagers scare the living shit out of me

[KentuckyWoman]

96. My white friend Bill says those kids probably don't know who daddy is

It's a proven fact all these white moocher single moms raise kids that end up hoodie wearing gangstas.

[LittleBlue]

99. Meh, okay

Passable social commentary satire. Really though, it dismisses a serious problem that isn't funny.

In trying to highlight racial criticism, it's making light of violence in the black community by making light of violence in the white community. Even knowing his purpose, I didn't find it very amusing when he talks of murder and rapes lightheartedly.

Poor form, whoever wrote that.

[Cali_Democrat]

103. What serious problem is being dismissed?

[noiretextatique]

124. crime in the black community

As opposed to crime. It is a bigger problem in the black community than in white communities where bush, cheney, and other criminals live. Seriously...this country is so obsessed with crime that it routinely excuses so-called white collar criminals who are white and do more damage than any gang ever could.

[lolly]

157. It doesn't "dismiss" it

It addresses a different problem.

[noiretextatique]

201. no it does not...it is a deflection

Away from the current discussion...a common tactic...especially on the subject of race. Maybe race baiters would have some credibility if they talked about white criminals some of the time.

[uponit7771]

162. ,,,as if there's NONE in white communities?! REALLY?

[flamingdem]

101. Author on Chris Hayes show right now

Good looking guy.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

102. In Britain they are called 'lager louts'

on vacation they are the scurge of Spanish holiday resorts, hooligans at soccer games (football matches) and get horribly drunk at the local pub.

However, sounds like the guys at college too. Here the Greek frats and sororities.

[wtmusic]

105. Meh. Nothing's changed, even the need to view the past with rose-colored glasses.

Nothing's. Changed.

[progressoid]

109. For those unaware of what this refers to...

[noiretextatique]

125. unfortunately

Some people agree with O'Reilly. If one more internet asshole tells me to go to school or get a job I have two degrees and 30 years work experience but because I am Black...

[progressoid]

136. I recently had a "discussion" with someone about this.

I'll shorten it, but essentially she actually thought it was just a simple matter for Black people to just stop being so angry and get a job.



I showed her statistic after statistic refuting each of her asinine statements. But that just seemed to make her even more determined in her beliefs. Of course, now I'm the bad guy for pointing out the obvious. As a white man, I was supposed to agree with her.



So fast forward to last Saturday and I overheard her talking to someone about this Oreilly rant. They are both proudly nodding in agreement with his bullshit.

[Capt. Obvious]

148. That was brilliant

Fucking sad, but spot on and brilliant.

Fuck Bill O'Reilly

[Starry Messenger]

153. Maybe the conversation we need to be having is on elderly Irish-Americans.

X(

[Lunacee_2013]

110. I see what you did there... Nt.

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

113. Not that I miss the point...

But the transient surf/skateboard contingent around there have been idiotic hooligans for decades.

[PasadenaTrudy]

121. One of the hooligans

arrested is a 30 yr old fireman from the nearby city of Fullerton. WTF.

[Paladin]

123. Nicely done, HipChick. Thanks. (nt)

[JoeyT]

127. I'm actually pleasantly surprised at the number of people that get this.

An excellent parody of the racism thinly disguised as concern trolling articles directed at African Americans.

Now I don't hate white people, I just don't like the ones that act like this. My white friends agree with me, so I can't be racist.

[Capt. Obvious]

129. Hillary Clinton is a credit to her race

[cer7711]

132. Brilliant Reversal!

I laughed my @$$ off at this.

Nicely done, Hip-chick!

Now if we can only get some right-wing talking head to take umbrage at your posting; that should ensure it goes viral . . .

[maddiemom]

133. Most youngster should be half as lucky as Taylor Swift. I've read that her wealthy daddy

supported her every interest in life wholeheartedly, including moving to Nashville, ultimately, to pursue her country music career. My apologies if I'm mixing her up with someone else. This does not apply as an excuse for the behavior of any young "hooligan."

[HipChick]

144. I would do the same if I thought my kid could be a cash cow..

Early retirement - KA-CHING!

[vaberella]

202. I am still trying to figure out when it was decided Taylor Swift can sing. n/t

[tomm2thumbs]

137. timely

and makes a huge point, which I hope those who NEED to get it, do get it.

Thanks for posting

[BrainDrain]

138. oh bullshit....

seriously?

Try again..that was a FAIL.

[pinboy3niner]

146. It is PARODY

Do you really think the author is serious about the problem of white youths rampaging at "horse racing infields, and Ivy League campuses"?

[rl6214]

139. I think it's more like young Americans have become idiots.

Doesn't matter what race.

[LanternWaste]

141. This is a brilliant thread!

This is a brilliant thread! If for no other reason, it illustrates the lack of capacity by so many who claim to be clever, have in not understanding, or even realizing satire. That alone is giggle-worthy.

But taking that blind fundy literalism one step farther, their righteous indignation is deliciously inept in itself. A dog barking at the mirror to scare off the intruders...

[lolly]

158. Yes, I'm pretty amazed here

At the lack of perception.

I guess with all that emphasis on standardized testing, schools these days don't have time to teach concepts like "irony" and "tone."

[dead_head]

143. Now I wanna sniff some glue!

It's the parents of these kids who are letting them listen to violent, self-destructive trash like "Anarchy in the UK" or "Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue"—performed loudly by noted conservative rocker Johnny Ramone.

GREAT!

Ah Johnny Ramone, he was as much of a fan of Reagan that I'm of the Ramones. It's sad.R.I.P.

[valerief]

149. I love the table turning. nt

[Bake]

150. Parody or not, this isn't funny

I thought DU was better than this kind of shit. I guess not.

Change "white" to "black" in the OP, and parody or not, there'd be pizza served.

It's not funny and its not helpful. A lot of posters showed their true colors in this thread, and I have only one thing to say to them: F U.

Bake

[lolly]

159. It is parody

And it calls attention to the very problem that seems so upsetting.

And it is funny in the way it does that.

[uponit7771]

163. There are PLENTY of people on DU who believe EXACTLY what OWrongly said

[pinboy3niner]

164. "Change 'white' to 'black' in the OP..."

That is precisely the author's point. This is the kind of analysis and advice offered by commentators on "problems in the black community," problems they claim black leaders are silent about. (See the O'Reilly commentary in the Chris Hayes clip in Post #109 for just one example.)

The author parodies those commentaries, mocking them, by simply taking this event, changing black to white, and plugging it into the 'black problems' commentary formula. It is a device for ridiculing these condescending treatments and exposing them.

[LanternWaste]

180. That you may not see it as funny does not deny its humor.

That you may not see it as funny does not deny its humor.

Change white to black in the OP and its not parody, it becomes Fox News, Rush Limabugh and a host of other vapid yet popular mouthpieces.

"A lot of posters showed their true colors in this thread..." Yes. Yes you did...

[Bake]

185. I'm sorry you don't approve of my apparent lack of sense of humor

A lot of posters in this thread just find it freakin' HILARIOUS. I don't. No more than they find Fox News amusing (which I don't).

I'm proud of my true colors. And I've got a helluva sense of humor. Just not about racism. Racism is wrong, and I'm proud to say that out loud. So, yes, yes I did. Apparently you did too.

Bake

[NutmegYankee]

183. One of the main goals of satire is to improve society.

By reversing the race of derision in this piece, the author highlights just how obnoxious these types of "analysis" really are and hopefully will open more people's eyes to this form of racism.

[Bake]

187. Really? I had no idea!

Wow. Satire. What a concept.

DUH.

Bake

[NutmegYankee]

188. Well, then why the response?

Seriously, you came off like the Brits who reacted with outrage at Swift's A Modest Proposal. All he wanted was some baby back ribs man!

[hughee99]

151. You kids get off my lawn!!!

This sounds a lot like someone who has an idealized picture of what young kids were like when they were younger and a poor idea of what young kids are like now.

These kids with their baggy shorts, and their Hollister t-shirts, and their Moby Grape. They're just out of control.

[JimboBillyBubbaBob]

155. Well...........

..........I teach in the high school and university levels. I see it in the high school setting more, but in both. Not a year goes by that I don't have to take them down a notch or two, in a socially permissible sense. It is done with wit, with frankness, individually, collectively, whatever a given moment deems necessary. There is a trend, as of late, for an increase in expression of what they offer up as cool. It's not cool, just childish. I liken it to an epidemic of arrested development. Even the females are beginning to get in on the action. Mind you, I'm a 59 year old white guy from the south, I know delayed development when I see it. I am pleased that this is being discussed on a national level now, about time.

[sofa king]

160. What, is it 1976 again?

The "self-destructive trash like 'Anarchy in the UK'" was written and performed by the Sex Pistols, not the Ramones, in 1976, watched by the grandparents of this generation:

The song "Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue" was written by Dee Dee Ramone in 1975.

And let me say something else: I saw the 1970s. I have worked with people from that era my whole life. I have friends born in the 1960s who have never read a book in their lives, who still won't go on the Internet because they prefer the thoughtless safety of television--and because they are functionally illiterate. And those morons? They never even knew who the Sex Pistols were (like the author of this opinion piece), much less saw them.

Compare that to the most indolent hood of today--what is that kid doing? He's reading and writing--albeit in that annoying text-lish--all day long, preferring to go to great and inefficient lengths to communicate by writing rather than simply talk on the phone as their grandparents would have. He's listening to whatever he wants to listen to, rather than being force-fed payola-driven disco over a shitty FM radio. He's reading maps, which his grandparents are notoriously inept at doing (in the 1970s, the US Army concluded that one out of three officers could not be taught how to read a map). He is utilizing vast and powerful social networks and news sources to inform himself--totally different from the alcohol-fueled basement conversations that informed the Americans of the '70s.

I'll take these kids over the coke-addled Leave-it-to-Beaver couch potatoes of the 1970s any day at all. I strongly suspect this article was actually written by one of the latter.

Second Edit: Awwww, looks like I got punked!

[Egalitarian Thug]

172. I was a punk before you were a punk, I was a punk before you. n/t

[muriel_volestrangler]

200. Your second pargraph has reminded me of this, which is slightly on topic:

&list=PL77A1F3BF6ACB0EFB&index=52

Pamela Stephenson and the late, great Mel Smith.

[Elmergantry]

165. Harumph!

The problem with these rotten cracka's is they have been spoiled by white privlige!

[DallasNE]

169. To Be Fair

I suspect drinking was a big part of the problem here. Also, it appears there are a number of Hispanics also participating in this rampage. Too bad this video didn't show the stores being broken into and the bicycles being stolen.

While alcohol helps release the emotions those emotions already exist and only need a little boost to escalate as happened here. But this helps point out something I have long contended; that this kind of behavior is a class issue and not a race issue and is rooted in the high rate of unemployment with young people, which is now spreading into the white community with predicted consequences. I have some problem with the blame the victim tone of this article while overlooking the cause (lack of jobs) and the fact that this is a class issue rather than a race issue.

[ThoughtCriminal]

170. Statistically - does this hold up? (spoiler: NO)

Violence and "Hooliganism" is unacceptable for any age, but has there been a dramatic increase in violence rates by white youths? All youths? No and no. In fact the opposite has occurred.



http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/youthviolence/stats_at-a_glance/hr_trends_race.html

[LanternWaste]

184. you should deconstruct the veracity and accuracy of John Stewart, Bill Hicks, and Mark Twain.

And for your next trick, you should deconstruct the veracity and accuracy of John Stewart, Bill Hicks, and Mark Twain.

Half my brain laughs loudly at those who lack the wit or the depth to grasp, or even recognize satire, the other half quietly weeps for them...





(Just in case you didn't know, "Satire is a genre of literature in which vices and shortcomings are held up to ridicule. Although satire is usually meant to be funny, its greater purpose is often constructive social criticism, using wit as a weapon. A common feature of satire is strong irony or sarcasm, but parody, exaggeration, juxtaposition, comparison, analogy, and double entendre are all frequently used in satirical speech and writing..."

Hope that helps!!!

[ThoughtCriminal]

189. Stewart, Hicks and Twain understood satire

"Dr Strangelove" was satire. "Network" was satire. This fails completely.

[joshguitar]

175. meh

Every generation thinks the next one is the last one

[NaturalHigh]

181. I'll be sure to point this out to my kids.

One is a straight-A student, the other is a two-sport athlete. Neither would hurt a fly.

Dangerous kids, those two.

[1StrongBlackMan]

182. Am I reading ...

some of these comments correctly?

We have Alcohol, illicit drugs and prescription drugs to explain these kids’ behavior … Don’t you think that supports what the OP was getting at? Black folks just being Black (i.e., just walking down the street, trying to shop, trying to catch a cab) = innate criminality; white folks' criminality = pharmacology.

[M0rpheus]

190. You most certainly are.

Apparently, this article is "demonstrably false" shit stirring, that shouldn't be said because racists will be offended.
What Bill'O said... well that's just social commentary.

*wonders for the 5 millionth time, why I waste my time in GD.

[1StrongBlackMan]

191. Because ...

*wonders for the 5 millionth time, why I waste my time in GD.

It feels so damned good when we leave the insanity posted in it?

[M0rpheus]

192. Very true. I will give you that.

But, damn... why does it have to be so hard?

[Starry Messenger]

193. It's made me sad the responses at Gawker were far wittier than the ones here.

[pinboy3niner]

197. What we have here (through no fault of the author)...

[Boom Sound 416]

186. I think this needs a little context - Part 1

1. "In the 1940s, young American whites fought Nazis." - yes, because the military was not integrated

2. "In the late '60s, they fought injustice". - The fought to not go to Vietnam and the military integrated and drafted young black men and sent 20 thousand of them to give their lives for country that wouldn't let them vote for President

3. Now, many have become selfish idiotic thugs with no culture, morals or any other mission but drinking and mayhem. Why are parents and politicians tolerating these violent imbeciles? - first of all its called "your 20's you're in college and stupid is what you do" and all they have is culture - pop culture

4. A frightening and violent mob swept through the normally quiet seaside community of Huntington Beach last night following a surfing competition in the area. Businesses were vandalized and looted, portable toilets overturned, and brutal fistfights waged right out in the open. - a bit overstated. it certainly wasn't hammers and chains and barely mischief. they knocked over a couple after several timid attempts and runs

5. It was an ugly display and a sad day for California. - and this is where it begins to go off the rails. This day is hardly California's worst day. It might be Huntington Beach's worst (where the median home price is $650,000), but even then it's a birthday party compared to a Patriots super bowl win.

6. But more than that, it was a reminder that we must begin to seriously consider the values of our thuggish white youth. - which where story reveals itself. Which i'll elaborate more later, but first what was is the mystery to a thugs values?

7. "Many people don't want to hear this kind of tough love, of course. They'd like to bury their heads in the sand and pretend that all white children are as sweet and harmless as Taylor Swift." - I presume the writer means "many white people..." nuff said

8. But the reality is that the statistics tell a different story. For instance, according to research from the Department of Justice, 84 percent of white murder victims are killed by other white people . -
yes, and predominately black people are killed by black people, but that argument is just a ruse for the reader. what the writer is trying to pass off is a similar number of whites are killed by whites and the same for blacks, which tell a much different story. Its like when republicans say the US gives the most aid to fight poverty in the world. Which is true. the USA gives the most dollars. but it's also true we give the least percent GDP, so one could say we give the least amount. Most dollars, least amount. both sound the same, both, frankly are right. Numbers have a way telling almost any story.

9. Similarly, white rape victims tend to be raped by other whites . - sexual predators tend to hunt within their own race. so again another straw man argument

End Part 1

[leftyladyfrommo]

209. Kind of a lot like A Clockwork Orange. n/t

[lumberjack_jeff]

216. Effective irony is a glancing blow.

I think that the problem with this is that it simply changes the nouns, thus becoming as offensive as the cultural and social framework it is intending to criticize.

The author was aiming for right between the eyes, and hit his target. I think it's clumsy.

[lynne]

220. Title and first paragraph painted with too broad a brush -

- to the point that I refused to read any further. From first paragraph - "Now, many have become selfish and idiotic thugs with no culture, morals or any other mission but drinking and mayhem." "Many"? Simply not true. The great majority of young adults that I know aren't hooligans or thugs and that includes youth of all races. As I have three young adult children, I know quite a few of their friends. Not a hooligan or thug of any color, creed, or race in the bunch.

Sure, there are hooligans and thugs of all races but they're in the minority. I refuse to click on the link of such a slanted and erroneous article that has no basis in either truth or fact.