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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA serious problem with Congress.
How is it that our elected representatives are sworn to silence on issues that they think are illegal or, at best, inappropriate?
Senators Udall and Wyden said they tried every way in the world to tell the people that something was wrong at the NSA and with the spying on the American people but they were forbidden to talk about the actual details.
How is it that our elected officials are intimidated by the leaders in the House and Senate and by House or Senate rules to abide by such a code of silence? There is something wrong with this picture.
It seems our Congress was coerced into silence? Perhaps they were threatened in some manner or other by the leadership? Perhaps they would not get the committee assignment they wanted? Perhaps they would not get their bill brought to the floor? Perhaps they were threatened with the charge of treason?
But, for whatever reasons, our Congress was prohibited from following their conscience and speaking up about what they thought were clearly questionable practices by our intelligence departments. Only those select few on the intelligence committees had access to the holy grail. Everyone else was more or less excluded. If they were told anything, they were sworn to secrecy.
From the comments by several in the House and Senate, one might think most of the Congress has been held prisoner by the defense and intelligence agencies of our government. It appears that most of the Executive Branch and the leaders of both Parties are nothing more than water carriers for the Defense Department and their related intelligence apparatchik.
One wonders who is really calling the shots? We can hope that the Congress is energized by the exposure of recent information and will stand up for the principles of democracy and for our Constitution. That would be an encouraging sign.
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montanacowboy
(6,085 posts)that is the question - who manipulates and controls - we don't even know the half of it
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)When you have been selected to "serve" on certain Congressional committees, you must swear and sign that you will never, ever disclose anything you learn as a result of your service on the target committee if in private session and preferably not in public session.
So our elected representatives have had their nads and tithes constrained by these rules. I'm sorry but these rules are the anti-thesis of an open and transparent democracy.
Our elected reps need to be able to share anything they learn with us because it is only when we the people know what shit our elected leaders and the instruments of government are doing that we can say NO and HELL NO.
Government pricks like to think they are "special" and are not subject to the people. We frigging pay their salaries and lavish benefits. We should of course know what they are doing in our name.
We are in George Orwell's 1984 now...Up is Down, etc.
avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)Heavens! congressional offices have been found to do insider trading!
That's how they handle secrets.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)start watching SCANDAL. Season 3 begins Oct. 3rd on ABC. By the way, the NSA is not spying on American citizens. However, they be spying suspected terrorist (international and domestic) who may be American citizens.
tritsofme
(17,377 posts)that reads classified information into the congressional record is loss of future access. The other retaliatory options you list are always available to leadership to deal with recalcitrant members. The Speech and Debate clause gives members legal immunity for their actions in Congress.
countmyvote4real
(4,023 posts)liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutocracy
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)made those rules.