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G_j

(40,366 posts)
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:44 PM Aug 2013

17 Best U.S. Cities for Hippies

http://blog.estately.com/2013/07/17-best-u-s-cities-for-hippies/

17 Best U.S. Cities for Hippies

While some may think all the hippies have burned out or faded away, the truth is they’re still out there, still busily making love, but not war. We here at Estately set out to find communities where they’re heavily concentrated, as well as providing ideal habitat for the next generation of flower children. To determine this we used a formula based on marijuana availability and legality, number of stores selling hemp, local counter-culture icons, tie-dye availability, hippie festivals, progressive government, intensity of Occupy protests, and a Facebook poll. In the end, we determined these places are the 17 Best U.S. Cities for Hippies…

17—ARCATA, CA / 16—BLOOMINGTON, IN / 15—SAN FRANCISCO, CA / 14—MANITOU SPRINGS, CO / 13—BEREA, KY / 12—OAKLAND, CA / 11—MISSOULA, MT / 10—BISBEE, AZ / 9—AUSTIN, TX / 8—BERKELEY, CA / 7—ITHACA, NY / 6—BURLINGTON, VT / 5—PORTLAND, OR / 4—BOULDER, CO / 3—ASHEVILLE, NC / 2—OLYMPIA, WA / 1—EUGENE, OR
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17 Best U.S. Cities for Hippies (Original Post) G_j Aug 2013 OP
Just spent a long weekend in Asheville Bonx Aug 2013 #1
My niece and nephew live in Asheville, and keep bugging me to move there, too Siwsan Aug 2013 #33
lol LWolf Aug 2013 #2
Flower Adults G_j Aug 2013 #3
That's me! Viva_La_Revolution Aug 2013 #30
Honestly, the entire state of Vermont is still a hippie haven cali Aug 2013 #4
I grew up in Asheville, lived in Austin twice HillWilliam Aug 2013 #6
there's always been a big Vermont Austin connection as well as a sizeable cali Aug 2013 #14
Yay Olympia! lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #5
Truth.. opiate69 Aug 2013 #32
Holy shit, my little Montana town is on the list. ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #7
Missoula is a great city. neverforget Aug 2013 #29
I used to live in Portland, and I plan on moving there again in about one year. ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #31
I visited Missoula once marlakay Aug 2013 #53
"the best cities for hippies with money" it should say re: Asheville NightWatcher Aug 2013 #8
Agreed. I'm surprised Telluride didn't make the list aikoaiko Aug 2013 #13
We used to take our little boys there MuseRider Aug 2013 #28
Me too, In the late 80s I would hang there in the summer aikoaiko Aug 2013 #41
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+100 WI_DEM Aug 2013 #18
Hey wait a second G_j Aug 2013 #25
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Now I know why people keep saying I should move to Eugene. bunnies Aug 2013 #9
What? No Santa Cruz? OffWithTheirHeads Aug 2013 #10
We spent our honeymoon ohheckyeah Aug 2013 #11
Austin is beyond hippie -- cool funk, weird. ananda Aug 2013 #12
I am sure I'll get grief for this observation Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #15
*cough*Oakland*cough KamaAina Aug 2013 #20
Oakland isn't. Berkeley isn't. Austin isn't. SF isn't. cali Aug 2013 #22
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Commonalities burnodo Aug 2013 #16
Actually CSU Humboldt n2doc Aug 2013 #36
I went to HSU too XemaSab Aug 2013 #64
Kick, Rec. NT Smarmie Doofus Aug 2013 #17
Let me get this out of the way: Obligatory Hippie Bashing Post Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #19
You forgot "Dirty hippie." Brigid Aug 2013 #48
I hate tie dye blah blah wear a suit Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #49
Pahoa, HI KamaAina Aug 2013 #21
Still quite a few in Hana. cali Aug 2013 #23
Yay! I live in between Portland and Olympia. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #24
Yeah, but... opiate69 Aug 2013 #38
When I visited Bisbee, a female artist exclaimed to me "people don't get divorced in Bisbee, adirondacker Aug 2013 #26
I can't believe Madison WI isn't included. snacker Aug 2013 #27
Maybe folks getting arrested for singing Kumbaya at the Capitol knocked it down-list. HereSince1628 Aug 2013 #42
That's so 3 years ago… Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #52
Berea KY? I had no idea. maxsolomon Aug 2013 #34
I think it might not be obvious unless you know people that live or go to school there or TheKentuckian Aug 2013 #47
Not shocked to see Asheville on the list (big fat DUH from this NC girl) Butterbean Aug 2013 #35
Woodstock, NY hard to top cynannmarie Aug 2013 #37
Raised and living in Eugene Spike89 Aug 2013 #39
And each year the Country Fair in Veneta just west of Eugene is hippyville ground zero... cascadiance Aug 2013 #51
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love to go to austin but it`s in texas. madrchsod Aug 2013 #43
Great thread Champion Jack Aug 2013 #44
I grew up about 40 miles from Eugene, in the middle of the Cascade Mountains....in the 60's. mick063 Aug 2013 #45
Could be my family, with a huge exception Spike89 Aug 2013 #57
Cool mick063 Aug 2013 #60
Certainly! One of the prettiest places anywhere! Spike89 Aug 2013 #69
great thread, a shame that Orlando is not on that list steve2470 Aug 2013 #46
Proud to say the Northwest has 3 of the top 5, and the left coast from Frisco north Zorra Aug 2013 #50
My kids are in Olympia, but they're geeks, not hippies starroute Aug 2013 #54
Also, what about Northampton? starroute Aug 2013 #55
I've lived in three of them. Arugula Latte Aug 2013 #56
That's funny...I've met NO real self-identified hippies Spike89 Aug 2013 #65
I know a lot of people that go to the Country Fair but I've never been. Arugula Latte Aug 2013 #67
Except for the bra and makeup part, I'm with you Spike89 Aug 2013 #71
Gotta admit, hippies have some pretty good taste. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #58
Royal Oak, MI michreject Aug 2013 #59
"tie-dye availability" CrispyQ Aug 2013 #61
Portland...where the young go to retire. NM_Birder Aug 2013 #62
I live over an hour away... typeviic Aug 2013 #63
"Hippies" haven't existed since the late 1960s. duffyduff Aug 2013 #66
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Bonx

(2,053 posts)
1. Just spent a long weekend in Asheville
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:53 PM
Aug 2013

Beautiful city and the weather was great. Excellent dining & beer selections.

Siwsan

(26,251 posts)
33. My niece and nephew live in Asheville, and keep bugging me to move there, too
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 04:27 PM
Aug 2013

I am giving it some very serious thought.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
2. lol
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 03:07 PM
Aug 2013

I went looking for Eugene in your list before I clicked on the link; I knew it wouldn't be accurate if Eugene wasn't included.

Sure enough, #1.

I see two in my current state, and 3 in my former state.

Somehow, it makes me want to visit the places on the list that I've never been. I love Portland, the city for "flower adults." If I ever give up rural living for the city, that's where I'll be.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
4. Honestly, the entire state of Vermont is still a hippie haven
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 03:19 PM
Aug 2013

even Stowe and even the Northeast Kingdom which is still home to functioning communes that have been around for decades and now have third and even fourth generation residents, and the iconic Bread & Puppet Theater in Glover.

HillWilliam

(3,310 posts)
6. I grew up in Asheville, lived in Austin twice
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 03:31 PM
Aug 2013

and felt right at home in Stowe. Pity we couldn't stay but a few days.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
14. there's always been a big Vermont Austin connection as well as a sizeable
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 03:49 PM
Aug 2013

Northeast Kingdom Maui connection.

Stowe is a bit too gentrified/touristy for me, but then I live in the Kingdom.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
5. Yay Olympia!
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 03:21 PM
Aug 2013

Were it not for Olympia's role in creating the most regressive tax system in the country, it'd be a wonderful place.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
7. Holy shit, my little Montana town is on the list.
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 03:31 PM
Aug 2013

I knew we were liberal, but I didn't think we would be on the list.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
31. I used to live in Portland, and I plan on moving there again in about one year.
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 04:26 PM
Aug 2013

I think of Portland as Missoula's big sibling.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
8. "the best cities for hippies with money" it should say re: Asheville
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 03:34 PM
Aug 2013

Those aren't hippies, those are rich people who enjoy smoking pot and wearing expensive sandals while they drive Suburu Outbacks back to their condos in the gated community

MuseRider

(34,095 posts)
28. We used to take our little boys there
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 04:14 PM
Aug 2013

every summer. Loved it. Went back about 10 years ago, it has changed so much since the late 70's when I was first there and the 80's when we brought our little boys.

The next to last time we were there with our kids in the 80's we thought about purchasing a few acres but it was just not the right time for us. We looked at some but the location was too secluded and far up the otherside of the mountain. Well, that is where the ski resort is now . You win some and you lose some.

Still an incredible place.

aikoaiko

(34,163 posts)
41. Me too, In the late 80s I would hang there in the summer
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 05:20 PM
Aug 2013

Sometimes for the music festivals and sometimes just to relax while watching the occasional snowflake fall to the ground in June.

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G_j

(40,366 posts)
25. Hey wait a second
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 04:07 PM
Aug 2013

I live here, and I'm fairly poor, as are most of my hippie friends. It's not easy, but we survive! Rich? that's rich...

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bunnies

(15,859 posts)
9. Now I know why people keep saying I should move to Eugene.
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 03:40 PM
Aug 2013

I even took one of those 'where should you live' tests & got Eugene as #1 & Portland as#2. NOW it makes sense!

 

Bunnahabhain

(857 posts)
15. I am sure I'll get grief for this observation
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 03:51 PM
Aug 2013

but the pictures in the links, and the areas listed, are mighty white. Seems to be far less racial diversity in the "hippie" designation than in the general population.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
20. *cough*Oakland*cough
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 04:00 PM
Aug 2013

Berkeley is also way diverse, with a sizable African American population in South Berkeley plus the Cal student body and faculty. SF is struggling to hold on to its black and now Latino population, with the Mission gentrifying, but still has plenty of Asians.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
22. Oakland isn't. Berkeley isn't. Austin isn't. SF isn't.
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 04:04 PM
Aug 2013

Asheville isn't. And other cities have sizable minority populations. Yes, some of those on the list are largely white. It's also worth noting that the original hippie movement was largely comprised of white middle class kids. that hasn't a lot to do with racism and in any case it was a very different era and a far less diverse country.

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burnodo

(2,017 posts)
16. Commonalities
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 03:52 PM
Aug 2013

17—ARCATA, CA - UC Humboldt State
16—BLOOMINGTON, IN - Indiana U
15—SAN FRANCISCO, CA - UCSF and others
14—MANITOU SPRINGS, CO - U Colorado Colorado Springs
13—BEREA, KY - Berea College, others
12—OAKLAND, CA - UC Berkeley, others
11—MISSOULA, MT - U Montana
10—BISBEE, AZ - U Arizona South
9—AUSTIN, TX - U Texas
8—BERKELEY, CA - UC Berkeley
7—ITHACA, NY - Cornell, others
6—BURLINGTON, VT - U Vermont
5—PORTLAND, OR - U Oregon, Portland, others
4—BOULDER, CO - U Colorado
3—ASHEVILLE, NC - UNC
2—OLYMPIA, WA - Evergreen College, others
1—EUGENE, OR - U Oregon

Hippies and higher education go hand in hand

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
36. Actually CSU Humboldt
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 04:54 PM
Aug 2013

As an alum, i am proud of being from a 'lowly' state school!

Also College of the Redwoods is located there.



As far as the list, I have to agree with the ones I've been to. However I would be concerned living in Asheville, considering the direction the rest of the state has taken. I don't know how Austin has survived, but it is/ has been gentrified to near Oblivion. Same with SF.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
19. Let me get this out of the way: Obligatory Hippie Bashing Post
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 03:57 PM
Aug 2013

Grumble Grumble Blah Blah Grumble Fart Snotty Remark Jerry Garcia Blah Fart Grumble Hippie Punch Grumble What Did The Deadhead Say When The Drugs Wore Off Har Har Fart Grumble Fart



...did I miss anything?

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
49. I hate tie dye blah blah wear a suit
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 05:53 PM
Aug 2013

Actually, though, in my experience the "establishment" hippie-bashers aren't nearly as bad as the pseudo-hipster would-be punk ones.

The people who think they're too cool for school because they got puked on once by GG Allin.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
21. Pahoa, HI
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 04:03 PM
Aug 2013

on the rainy side of the Big Island. Most of Maui's authentic hippies have been priced out , though a few make a stand in Pai'a.

When John Prine gave a concert in Honolulu, one review said "it looked like half of Pahoa was there".

 

opiate69

(10,129 posts)
38. Yeah, but...
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 05:10 PM
Aug 2013

Doesn't that put you somewhere near that teabagger dumbfuck with the huge Uncle Sam billboard on I5 then? We may need to get you some reinforcements in that case...let's turn the whole Chehalis valley into hippie paradise!

adirondacker

(2,921 posts)
26. When I visited Bisbee, a female artist exclaimed to me "people don't get divorced in Bisbee,
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 04:10 PM
Aug 2013

they just take turns" referring to the population density and availability of optional partners. I remember being perplexed for a moment, then amused. It's a cool and fascinating town.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
52. That's so 3 years ago…
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 06:17 PM
Aug 2013

My first thought too

but then I thought about everything that's going on.

To the tune of…well you know.

Oy, Wisconsin, Oy, Wisconsin,
Former hippie land;
We thy loyal cheesehead offspring
Grieve what once was grand.

maxsolomon

(33,252 posts)
34. Berea KY? I had no idea.
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 04:30 PM
Aug 2013

Never seemed that way to me when I was there before. But I ain't been there in 20+ years.

TheKentuckian

(25,021 posts)
47. I think it might not be obvious unless you know people that live or go to school there or
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 05:43 PM
Aug 2013

are into the arts and crafts scene.

Similar goes for my other nearby location of Bloomington, I can see spending plenty of time there and never getting any such idea if you aren't in the right circles.

Now, Asheville you can feel the vibe right off but maybe I got that because the first time I ever did more than drive through I went to catch some bands and hangout with friends at Warren Wilson. The location also probably helps the vibe.

Butterbean

(1,014 posts)
35. Not shocked to see Asheville on the list (big fat DUH from this NC girl)
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 04:31 PM
Aug 2013

but I am surprised that Carrboro and/or Chapel Hill didn't get a nod. They are pretty darned crunchy, if I do say so m'self.

Spike89

(1,569 posts)
39. Raised and living in Eugene
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 05:18 PM
Aug 2013

I've lived up and down the I-5 corridor and Eugene doesn't just have a hippy side, the undercarriage, frame, and accessories are full hippy. I lived in S.F., Oakland (and a few other Bay communities) as well as S. California (Newport Beach) and all around Portland. Even in Portland, a mere 100 miles up the road, you can pretty easily ignore the hippy community without dropping out of the entire social scene.
In Eugene it just isn't possible. Not everyone is a hippy of course, but pretty much everyone and everything is influenced by the "hippy vibe". It's home and most of us don't promote or downplay the counterculture nature--it's just the way things are here.

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mick063

(2,424 posts)
45. I grew up about 40 miles from Eugene, in the middle of the Cascade Mountains....in the 60's.
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 05:40 PM
Aug 2013

My extended family owned a logging company. They hated hippies because they "took over" the local hot springs.


Plaid wool shirt wearing, Deer hunting, tobacco chewing, horse shoe throwin, loggers. Wild berry jam was a staple. So was trout. They would play cards and say "Those damn hippies".

I always thought the hippies were kinda cool.

Spike89

(1,569 posts)
57. Could be my family, with a huge exception
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 07:02 PM
Aug 2013

My extended family also owned a logging company (based outside Oregon City) and my Dad grew up literally in the woods steps from the family sawmill. He was only one of 11 sons to go to college and get a degree. He choose to raise his family in Eugene and although he wasn't a stereotypical hippy (most aren't) he certainly had most of the traits and was liberal to his core. He also became a logger (again) and commercial fisherman for "fun" as his second career.
Anyway, some of us "hippy kids" grew up deer hunting, living on wild berry jam and trout, wearing plaid and tossing horseshoes too. We just did it between reading Kesey and Brautigan novels.

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
60. Cool
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 10:07 PM
Aug 2013

So you are familiar with McKenzie Bridge, Oregon? In between Sisters and Eugene?

If my mother had not moved away, I probably would have been a logger like my cousins.

Check out the images. I grew up in paradise.

Remember the flood of 1964? As a child, all of my Christmas presents, as well as my grandmother's house was swept down Horse Creek.....on Christmas eve. I didn't care about the presents actually, but my mother was distraught.

Spike89

(1,569 posts)
69. Certainly! One of the prettiest places anywhere!
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 12:01 PM
Aug 2013

Those are some great pictures. I actually live in the Thurston area of Springfield (work in Eugene) and head upstream every chance I get--it doesn't take but a few minutes to get into some awesomely scenic countryside.

I remember the flood barely (I was 6). The big one for me was the Columbus Day storm a few years earlier...my Dad couldn't get home because of all the trees in the roads and the wind literally splintered our back door frame. My little sister and I had to help my Mom push the door shut so she could nail it closed.

Logging isn't the most dependable career in Oregon any more. Yeah, some of that happened because of us environmentalists, but really we just hastened the inevitable. The highly profitable old growth areas were pretty much tapped out and most of the big outfits wouldn't or couldn't transition to working with second growth.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
50. Proud to say the Northwest has 3 of the top 5, and the left coast from Frisco north
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 06:03 PM
Aug 2013

has 7 out of the 17.


I miss the NW, live in AZ now, but lived in the NW for most of my life, lots of awesome progressive people there.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
54. My kids are in Olympia, but they're geeks, not hippies
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 06:43 PM
Aug 2013

I think they basically find the hippies kind of annoying, but they put up with them.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
56. I've lived in three of them.
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 06:55 PM
Aug 2013

I always feel more comfortable in hippie-friendly places, even though I am not a hippie.

Spike89

(1,569 posts)
65. That's funny...I've met NO real self-identified hippies
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 11:42 AM
Aug 2013

A good friend I work with was an original hoedad (a co-op tree-planting community in Eugene during the 60s and 70s that was perhaps the very definition of a hippy group), she also is an original Oregon Country Fair member/founder/vendor. When she's not barefoot, she's in sandals, owns almost nothing that isn't tie-dyed/velvet/both. She knows and is friends with virtually every high profile hippy in the area.
She claims she isn't a hippy. When really pushed, she'll admit that she understands why people may think so, but she insists she's just a person.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
67. I know a lot of people that go to the Country Fair but I've never been.
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 11:50 AM
Aug 2013

I wear no tie-dye, smoke no pot, and burn no incense. I like to wear bras and a little make-up (oh, and clothing as well. )

Spike89

(1,569 posts)
71. Except for the bra and makeup part, I'm with you
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 12:10 PM
Aug 2013

I did go once, it isn't my thing. I'm aligned pretty much with the "hippy philosophy" I suppose, but I'm not into the trappings (no tie-dye, pot, patchouli or incense. I keep my clothes on in public too (though naked/painted people watching was probably the most memorable part of my one visit to the fair).

I work about a block from the park when the farmer's and Saturday markets are and my office is smack in the middle of where they hold the annual Eugene Celebration. I get plenty of exposure to the local Eugene hippy community.

 

typeviic

(61 posts)
63. I live over an hour away...
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 11:12 AM
Aug 2013

from Bloomington, IN. Love the town. No interstate highway, just State Roads to get you there. No local news cast either. Great natural foods/organic selections as well with two Sahara Marts and a few Bloomingfoods stores. However, we dont care much for IU sports, as our family are Purdue fans, because in the State of Indiana, you either like Purdue or IU. The top-northern half is mostly Purdue fans, while the southern-lower half likes IU.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
66. "Hippies" haven't existed since the late 1960s.
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 11:46 AM
Aug 2013

This is pure fantasy on the part of the author, who probably wasn't even around then.

I was. It wasn't much to brag about.

The "hippies," at least those who didn't live off of trust funds, had to go to work. That was the reason the "hippie era" ended.

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