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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 04:42 PM Aug 2013

Was Obama's expansive praise for Summers just a feint?

Sometimes I wonder if I just have a bent mind, but I got a little suspicious at BHO's over the top praise for Larry Summers. A little red flag of real doubt flared in my mind: he's flattering Summers to soften the blow of choosing Yellen.

Am I just crazy?

I guess we'll soon find out...then if I'm wrong I'll look silly, but it was just my passing hunch...oh, well...

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Was Obama's expansive praise for Summers just a feint? (Original Post) CTyankee Aug 2013 OP
The Official Rule of DU regarding what Obama says: geek tragedy Aug 2013 #1
Oh, I know. But what Obama said was kinda "fulsome" in the real meaning of the term... CTyankee Aug 2013 #2
Could be either. Shows Obama likes Summers, which we already knew to be a sad truth nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #3
Can I edit that to be a little more accurate? … 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #31
Sure as heck hope so, yank! elleng Aug 2013 #4
Here's what I think.... Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #5
BTW...Wall Street doesn't want Summers, they want Yellen Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #6
A real possibility, IMO... CTyankee Aug 2013 #8
No. I've heard reports that Obama actually does like Summers that much. Arkana Aug 2013 #7
Well, it goes to my point. If Obama felt he couldn't appoint Summers, he might have felt he owed CTyankee Aug 2013 #9
floating a trial balloon...he does this with every appointment magical thyme Aug 2013 #10
Paul Krugman thinks well of her altho he doesn'r really hate Summers or is ambivalent CTyankee Aug 2013 #11
If Krugman thinks well of her, then maybe Obama and the 1%ers have figured out magical thyme Aug 2013 #16
She did have the best track record on the Fed Board of successes vs. failures...so that is a good CTyankee Aug 2013 #21
There are some even more bent than you Fumesucker Aug 2013 #12
well, I'm not posting this as a screed against Obama, really. CTyankee Aug 2013 #13
No, I agree with you Fumesucker Aug 2013 #15
why not just support and praise Yellen? burnodo Aug 2013 #14
You herd cats by giving them something to run away from Fumesucker Aug 2013 #17
for what purpose? burnodo Aug 2013 #18
That doesn't mean that liberals support Yellen either Fumesucker Aug 2013 #19
But again, who is he trying to win over by threatening Summers? burnodo Aug 2013 #20
Those who might not like Yellen but loathe Summers Fumesucker Aug 2013 #26
My guess is that he doesn't want to totally alienate Summers and he probablylikes CTyankee Aug 2013 #23
soften the blow for Summers? burnodo Aug 2013 #24
Yes. The left screamed bloody murder, Obama relented and now he will appoint Yellen and must CTyankee Aug 2013 #25
not so bent at all burnodo Aug 2013 #27
we'll see. I'm not that confident I am right... CTyankee Aug 2013 #28
He seems to praise everyone. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #22
Is Penny Pritzger (sp) really Commerce Secretary? Who the hell knows anymore matthews Aug 2013 #29
Coud be that he hates that any potential nominee gets smeared by karynnj Aug 2013 #30
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
1. The Official Rule of DU regarding what Obama says:
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 04:44 PM
Aug 2013

If Obama says something that matches your preconceived notions of him, then it is revealing of his intent and character. If it contradicts your preconceived notions of him, talk is cheap and can be summarily disregarded.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
2. Oh, I know. But what Obama said was kinda "fulsome" in the real meaning of the term...
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 04:47 PM
Aug 2013

didn't BHO have really great things to say about Susan Rice before Kerry got SOS?

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
31. Can I edit that to be a little more accurate? …
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 08:36 AM
Aug 2013

(It’ll be in keeping with something you wrote earlier)

If Obama says something CONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN CRITICAL of him, then it is revealing of his intent and character. If it contradicts something YOU HAVE BEEN CRITICAL of him FOR, talk is cheap and can be summarily disregarded.

elleng

(130,895 posts)
4. Sure as heck hope so, yank!
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 04:49 PM
Aug 2013

Had to say nice things, for summers and others, before the REAL wise one gets the job!

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
5. Here's what I think....
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 04:53 PM
Aug 2013

I think this is similar to the Susan Rice situation. He defends people who have had his back. He defends them against what he thinks are innuendo and false allegations. That doesn't mean he will appoint them to those positions, it just that Obama isn't one to throw his people under the bus, especially when they may serve in other capacities.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
7. No. I've heard reports that Obama actually does like Summers that much.
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 04:56 PM
Aug 2013

Whether he likes him enough to override the Senate's objections and send Summers to the floor for confirmation, however, is another story.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
9. Well, it goes to my point. If Obama felt he couldn't appoint Summers, he might have felt he owed
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 06:45 PM
Aug 2013

him some praise...hence, my "susan rice" reference...

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
10. floating a trial balloon...he does this with every appointment
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 06:55 PM
Aug 2013

he floats a trial balloon. It fails. He floats another one. And another one. Finally sticks us with a less-known clone of the first unacceptable candidate.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
11. Paul Krugman thinks well of her altho he doesn'r really hate Summers or is ambivalent
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 06:59 PM
Aug 2013

(I can't divine which in his blogs...it's a mystery...). But he agrees that the WSJ has a strange misogynist bent
against a WOMAN in that position...he reveals the misogyny in his blogs recently...it's a sad thing but so entirely predictable...

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
16. If Krugman thinks well of her, then maybe Obama and the 1%ers have figured out
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 07:09 PM
Aug 2013

that their attempted "fix" of the economy by strictly monetary action to bail out the banksters is a failure, was doomed to fair from the start and is the wrong "treatment" for the problem.

I'm not following it closely, so I don't know what economic theory she follows. Just know that Obama has a track record of floating trial balloons and more often than not, we end up with a clone of the original.

To be fair, sometimes that works well. So many were devastated that Warren didn't get picked, but we ended up with her clone at the head of her Consumer agency and Warren in the senate.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
21. She did have the best track record on the Fed Board of successes vs. failures...so that is a good
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 07:36 PM
Aug 2013

sign. I just felt that he was trying a bit too hard to be nice to Summers for it to be the pick...but I dunno...I have been pretty spectacularly bad in my earlier predictions so...

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
13. well, I'm not posting this as a screed against Obama, really.
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 07:04 PM
Aug 2013

I hope I can be a little more rational about it than that. I was talking about my weird way of looking at what someone is saying and seeing in it a strange contradiction...strange in the way it sits in my brain as I think about it...I certainly don't have hallucinations about the guy...

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
15. No, I agree with you
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 07:09 PM
Aug 2013

That post was me talking about eleven dimensional chess in regard to Summers and Yellen on the 25th.


Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
17. You herd cats by giving them something to run away from
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 07:11 PM
Aug 2013

The spray bottle for instance.

Summers is a particularly large and vile spray bottle to herd the liberal cats toward Yellen.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
19. That doesn't mean that liberals support Yellen either
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 07:22 PM
Aug 2013

If your spouse is complaining about Italian for dinner again and you offer tire rims and anthrax as an alternative suddenly Italian looks a lot better choice.



Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
26. Those who might not like Yellen but loathe Summers
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 07:51 PM
Aug 2013

I'm guessing they're likely to be of the more liberal persuasion.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
23. My guess is that he doesn't want to totally alienate Summers and he probablylikes
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 07:46 PM
Aug 2013

some of what he has said/written. As I said, trying to soften the blow...

but what do I know?

 

burnodo

(2,017 posts)
24. soften the blow for Summers?
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 07:49 PM
Aug 2013

is he some kind of viceroy?

I have to disagree with you. I think Obama would rather have Summers. I think its elements of the left screaming bloody murder that's even making him hesitate.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
25. Yes. The left screamed bloody murder, Obama relented and now he will appoint Yellen and must
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 07:51 PM
Aug 2013

placate Summers. That was my bent mind at work...

 

matthews

(497 posts)
29. Is Penny Pritzger (sp) really Commerce Secretary? Who the hell knows anymore
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 08:40 PM
Aug 2013

I just know I don't believe a thing he says or anything someone says he says.

Wading in BS hip-high through 2 campaigns taught me a lesson.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
30. Coud be that he hates that any potential nominee gets smeared by
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 10:03 PM
Aug 2013

those preferring someone else. (Just for the record I hope it is NOT Summers and think many objections are valid) In fact, a close parallel is that Obama strongly defended Rice at a point where he very likely had already decided on Kerry or was at least leaning to him. I thought then that the defense of someone for things she did working for him was actually MORE needed if he was not likely to pick her. If he were likely to pick her, he has a huge platform in his announcement to obliquely defend her.

Not to mention, it would be historic to nominate the first female Fed boss.

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