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kpete

(71,963 posts)
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 07:04 PM Aug 2013

“Congress Was Fully Briefed” … at the Last Minute

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......75 days after the House Intelligence Chair asked for a document that even DOJ claimed to agree was important for all members of Congress to have access to, DOJ finally provided it.

Two days later, on December 16, the House Judiciary Committee reported its bill; at the time the Intelligence and Financial Services Committees got an extension to January 29, 2010, which was just days before the PATRIOT provisions expired. And while those committees ultimately discharged the bill on January 29, it wasn’t that bill that got considered in the House or Senate. Rather, Congress pushed through http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/02/26/us-usa-congress-security-idUSTRE61P0EV20100226 a one year extension of PATRIOT as it existed, thereby avoiding any of the new limits on the dragnet collection passed by the Judiciary Committees.

DOJ played similar games the following year, when Congress tried to pass real extensions. That time around, DOJ provided its document on February 2, a week after Jim Sensenbrenner introduced another emergency bill to http://www.dni.gov/files/documents/2011_CoverLetters_Report_Collection.pdf extend the PATRIOT Act long enough so it could be extended for real later that year.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:SN01038:

We believe that making this document available to all members of Congress, as we did with a similar document in December 2009, is an effective way to inform the legislative debate about reauthorization of Section 215.


DOJ said, as they handed over information about an emergency debate that had already started.

This is what counts as good faith briefing of Congress, providing highly controlled documents to Congress well after important parts of the debate have already taken place.

But don’t worry. All three branches of government have approved the dragnet.

- See more at: http://www.emptywheel.net/2013/08/02/congress-was-fully-briefed-at-the-last-minute/#more-37116
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“Congress Was Fully Briefed” … at the Last Minute (Original Post) kpete Aug 2013 OP
You'd think it was still 2008. MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #1
Sometimes, consent isn't informed. leveymg Aug 2013 #2
I see no end in sight. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #3
lol Hydra Aug 2013 #4
I would be embarrassed for them, but I'm sure they are not embarrassed. This is how they liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #5
Shouldn't headline have read? truedelphi Aug 2013 #6
Anyone care to guess how many heads will roll over this? Fumesucker Aug 2013 #7
Its ALL a sick, twisted game to protect the 1%. bvar22 Aug 2013 #8
It was disclosed Aerows Aug 2013 #9

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
4. lol
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 07:38 PM
Aug 2013

This is bad- they claimed Congress was overseeing it, but they can legitly claim that they were never given the information.

I wondered why Sensenbrenner was so pissed off, but here it is. He had to rescue it for them and they were busy using it to break the law.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
5. I would be embarrassed for them, but I'm sure they are not embarrassed. This is how they
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 07:43 PM
Aug 2013

seem to prefer to do business. They can claim they didn't know. It's still just so embarrassing. I need to stop admitting I'm from the US. Maybe I'll pretend I'm from Canada or Denmark or something.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
6. Shouldn't headline have read?
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 08:10 PM
Aug 2013

Congress was fully briefed, except for...


wait for it!



wait for it!


wait for it!



wait for it!























Anthony Wiener, who was once again without them.

(As he later explained, NSA briefings always got him excited...)

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
7. Anyone care to guess how many heads will roll over this?
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 08:15 PM
Aug 2013

Ms Sherrod, are you all right? Why are you laughing like that?



bvar22

(39,909 posts)
8. Its ALL a sick, twisted game to protect the 1%.
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 08:20 PM
Aug 2013




You will know them by their [font size=3]WORKS.[/font]
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
9. It was disclosed
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 08:23 PM
Aug 2013

Something was disclosed. Isn't it good enough for you folks? You want to disclose everything we know on nationals, foreign and domestic, but when we disclose something that was already disclosed (using shady "liberal interpretation of the Constitution" legally) it's not enough for you. You didn't know all of this beforehand, and you shouldn't know it because it's National Security, illegal for you to know, and shut up, just because you pay us doesn't mean you need to know what we do.

Knowing what we do, and more importantly how much money is spent on what we do, - That's illegal!

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