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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Sat Aug 3, 2013, 12:08 PM Aug 2013

Egypt General to US: "You turned your back on the Egyptians, and they won’t forget that"


In his first interview since the overthrow of President Mohamed Morsi last month, Egypt’s commanding general sharply criticized the U.S. response, accusing the Obama administration of disregarding the Egyptian popular will and of providing insufficient support amid threats of a civil war.

“You left the Egyptians. You turned your back on the Egyptians, and they won’t forget that,” said an indignant Gen. Abdel Fatah al-Sissi, speaking of the U.S. government. “Now you want to continue turning your backs on Egyptians?”

Sissi is widely considered the most powerful man in Egypt, wielding more control than anyone over the country’s direction after a tumultuous two and a half years in which the military has shoved aside two presidents following popular uprisings. He denied interest in running for president himself but did not rule it out.


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Egypt General to US: "You turned your back on the Egyptians, and they won’t forget that" (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Aug 2013 OP
The response should be, "Don't try to use Orwellian word games to manipulate us." Igel Aug 2013 #1
Jesus. How much money do we send these people every month? curlyred Aug 2013 #2
About $125 million every month, $1.5 billion a year. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #5
Why are we always the ones expected to fight everybody elses fights. bunnies Aug 2013 #3
And we can't bail out Detroit? curlyred Aug 2013 #7
This guy thinks he is the reincarnation of Gamal Abdel Nasser. roamer65 Aug 2013 #4
Eh, we get the blame for everything else that goes on. Benton D Struckcheon Aug 2013 #6

Igel

(35,270 posts)
1. The response should be, "Don't try to use Orwellian word games to manipulate us."
Sat Aug 3, 2013, 12:29 PM
Aug 2013

"The Egyptians" includes those protesting the coup and those that the Army and police killed.

You don't get "back turning" much worse than that. So the Army turned it's back on "the Egyptians." Again--a silly word game.

It works like this.

The Egyptians voted. Morsi won. Then some Egyptians protested Morsi. Now, the Egyptians that protested Morsi wanted his government out. So the Army, backing the Egyptians, staged a coup.

Having done what the Egyptians wanted, the Army, the Egyptians' representative and also Egyptians, installed a judge. Having placed that man in a position of power, the Egyptians responsible wanted him to be recognized. By not recognizing him immediately, the US snubbed the Egyptians and their will.


In the first paragraph, "The Egyptians" is the electorate--still not all the Egyptians. At the start of the second paragraph, "the Egyptians" are just those who protested Morsi. By the end of the second paragraph, "the Egyptians" are just the Army officers--but what the writer wants the reader to understand is that it refers to all Egyptians. That's blatantly false. I keep changing the definition as I go to manipulate the reader.

Hat tip to Petr Fidelius, whoever he was, and his book "Jazyk a moc," "Language and Power."
 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
3. Why are we always the ones expected to fight everybody elses fights.
Sat Aug 3, 2013, 02:23 PM
Aug 2013

We're damned if we do and damned if we dont. If everybody wants us to get involved in their shit then they should give US aid, not the other way around.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
4. This guy thinks he is the reincarnation of Gamal Abdel Nasser.
Sat Aug 3, 2013, 02:27 PM
Aug 2013

I feel sorry for the Egyptian people.

Two choices now...Sharia law scumbags vs a pro-Nasserist nutbag.

What a choice.

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
6. Eh, we get the blame for everything else that goes on.
Sat Aug 3, 2013, 02:44 PM
Aug 2013

Sooner or later we'd get it for this too. So, if we'd stopped sending money to the military they'd blame us for backing Morsi. We keep sending that aid, and they blame us for backing Morsi anyway. SOP.
Over in Syria, Assad and the Russians blame us for backing the rebels, and the rebels blame us for not arming them sufficiently or quickly enough. And so on.

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