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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Sat Aug 3, 2013, 07:54 PM Aug 2013

Give Manning and Snowden the Nobel Peace Prize

In an op-ed for the Guardian earlier this summer, Máiread Corrigan Maguire, an Irish activist who won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1976 and has devoted her life to working for peace in Northern Ireland and around the world, explained why she is nominating Bradley Manning for this year’s prize. American activist and journalist Norman Solomon followed up on this in a USA Today article this week, just after Manning’s conviction on espionage charges. Solomon announced that he will go to Oslo with a petition signed by more than 100,000 people urging the Nobel committee to award Manning the peace prize.

I think it’s a great idea, and if the Nobel committee weren’t so cautious and lily-livered – and were actually interested in furthering the cause of peace – it might actually happen. Since the real goal here is a worldwide public education campaign or an act of resistance, it might be even better if we folded in Swedish academic Stefan Svallfors’ nomination of Manning’s fellow leaker Edward Snowden, who was just granted temporary asylum in Russia. The Nobel committee could undo years of boring and/or insulting choices, just like that. Give the Nobel Peace Prize to Bradley Manning and Edward Snowden.

Can you even imagine how outraged, how red-faced and apoplectic, John McCain and Lindsey Graham and Dianne Feinstein and the talking heads on the Sunday news shows would be? It would partly make up for the profound shame of having given the prize to Henry Kissinger, one of the 20th century’s great war criminals, in 1973. And then there was what Svallfors calls the “hasty and ill-considered decision” to award it to Barack Obama in 2009. That seemed mysterious at the time – his great accomplishment was that he was a brand new American president who wasn’t George W. Bush – and it looks considerably worse now.


http://www.salon.com/2013/08/03/give_manning_and_snowden_the_nobel_peace_prize/singleton/

At the very least, I'm betting the Snowden will make Time mag's 'Person of the Year'...

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Give Manning and Snowden the Nobel Peace Prize (Original Post) Purveyor Aug 2013 OP
That would certainly blow some minds if it happened. Electric Monk Aug 2013 #1
How about a Trifecta!?!? DeSwiss Aug 2013 #2
which one of these things is not like the others? nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #8
It would be nice if they recieved the award. AppleBottom Aug 2013 #19
We need a new story..... DeSwiss Aug 2013 #21
Thanks, that was a thoughtful video. AppleBottom Aug 2013 #23
In fairness, Obama probably deserved the prize. reusrename Aug 2013 #3
"a nuclear first strike..." cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #6
Sure, it almost happened twice during Cheney. reusrename Aug 2013 #7
There were even people on DU who wanted to nuke Iran bananas Aug 2013 #10
Thank you. reusrename Aug 2013 #12
LOL. You have no doubts that if Obama wasnt elected that something bad would have happened and rhett o rick Aug 2013 #9
Give credit where credit is due. reusrename Aug 2013 #11
''Give credit where credit is due.'' DeSwiss Aug 2013 #13
Yeah, there's that, too. reusrename Aug 2013 #15
2008? burnodo Aug 2013 #16
The article in the OP slams the committee for years of insulting choices. reusrename Aug 2013 #17
yeppers. BIG K&R ~nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #4
This is a great idea Chiennoir54 Aug 2013 #5
100,000+ petition signatures for Manning to get a Nobel now... cascadiance Aug 2013 #18
100% support this for both of them n/t Catherina Aug 2013 #14
. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #20
+100 truebluegreen Aug 2013 #22
 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
21. We need a new story.....
Sun Aug 4, 2013, 06:00 PM
Aug 2013


''Changing one's response to the story's narrative, is how the story is changed, and therein lies our power.''





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reusrename

(1,716 posts)
3. In fairness, Obama probably deserved the prize.
Sat Aug 3, 2013, 10:02 PM
Aug 2013

I have no doubt his election averted a nuclear first strike against Iran. The world was watching.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
6. "a nuclear first strike..."
Sat Aug 3, 2013, 11:08 PM
Aug 2013

You're serious? You think if John McCain had been elected, The United States would have NUKED Iran? Pre-emptively?

bananas

(27,509 posts)
10. There were even people on DU who wanted to nuke Iran
Sat Aug 3, 2013, 11:35 PM
Aug 2013

This thread was a response to them:

Not really nukes? I call BULLSHIT

We have seen a set of posts here claiming that tactical nuke 'bunker busters' are not 'real nukes' and are not even in the same class of weapon as the bomb we dropped on hiroshima.

This is of course a vile argument attempting to justify first strike use of nuclear weapons by claiming that these particular nuclear weapons are not really nuclear weapons. It is also wrong on the facts regarding the claim that the bunker buster weapon is not in the same class as the hiroshima weapon.

Now for some actual facts. First the Hiroshima weapon:
<snip>

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x3060468

 

reusrename

(1,716 posts)
12. Thank you.
Sat Aug 3, 2013, 11:43 PM
Aug 2013

Bomb, bomb, bomb... bomb, bomb Iran!

It wasn't merely a catchy tune, it was a campaign song.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
9. LOL. You have no doubts that if Obama wasnt elected that something bad would have happened and
Sat Aug 3, 2013, 11:33 PM
Aug 2013

you want to give Obama credit? You want to give a peace prize for not doing something? With regard to civil liberties, Obama is as bad or worse than Bush.

 

reusrename

(1,716 posts)
11. Give credit where credit is due.
Sat Aug 3, 2013, 11:40 PM
Aug 2013

Many around the world believed that a nuclear strike from the US was inevitable. Not just me.

It seems the cost/benefit analysis showed that huge profits could be reaped.

No one knew how to stop it.

You should watch Obama's speech in Berlin where he proposes a solution.

That's when I got onboard with the movement. No one else offered anything.

 

reusrename

(1,716 posts)
15. Yeah, there's that, too.
Sun Aug 4, 2013, 12:06 AM
Aug 2013

Of course that came after the Nobel Prize, so I'm not sure how you would factor it in.

Lerp.

 

reusrename

(1,716 posts)
17. The article in the OP slams the committee for years of insulting choices.
Sun Aug 4, 2013, 12:23 AM
Aug 2013

My mistake for thinking Obama was one of highest profile of those cases.

YMMV.

I agree that the whistleblowers should win this year, hands down.

Chiennoir54

(29 posts)
5. This is a great idea
Sat Aug 3, 2013, 11:04 PM
Aug 2013

I very much would like these 3 to get Nobels. As the other post says it would help to offset Henry the K getting it, but also Obama's premature, ridiculous win.

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