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Spirochete

(5,264 posts) Mon Aug 5, 2013, 01:43 AM Aug 2013

What do you all consider more of a travesty?

You'd think it would be obvious, but I'm not so sure anymore.

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What do you all consider more of a travesty? (Original Post) Spirochete Aug 2013 OP

No Question. Zimmerman is a murdering Sob. Snowden revealed stuff that we knew about. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #1

"Snowden revealed stuff that we knew about." Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #2

Ok you were 12 at the time. I feel old now at 34. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #3

I'm just attempting to end the argument that Snowden didn't reveal anything new. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #4

To be honest I stay out of the snowden wars but I am understand what you mean. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #5

It's not a real powerful argument against "none of this is new", to point petronius Aug 2013 #6

I really like this ACLU quote Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #9

The obvious choice Spirochete Aug 2013 #7

I agree! I distrust him and his motives but he got us talking about stuff that needs hrmjustin Aug 2013 #8

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)

1. No Question. Zimmerman is a murdering Sob. Snowden revealed stuff that we knew about.

Reply to Spirochete (Original post)

Mon Aug 5, 2013, 01:46 AM

Aug 2013

I am not a fan or a detractor of Snowden but Zimmerman should be in jail for life.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)

2. "Snowden revealed stuff that we knew about."

Reply to hrmjustin (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 5, 2013, 01:48 AM

Aug 2013

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023391280

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)

3. Ok you were 12 at the time. I feel old now at 34.

Reply to Gravitycollapse (Reply #2)

Mon Aug 5, 2013, 01:50 AM

Aug 2013

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)

4. I'm just attempting to end the argument that Snowden didn't reveal anything new.

Reply to hrmjustin (Reply #3)

Mon Aug 5, 2013, 01:52 AM

Aug 2013

Which is oft a criticism wielded against his leaks.

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)

5. To be honest I stay out of the snowden wars but I am understand what you mean.

Reply to Gravitycollapse (Reply #4)

Mon Aug 5, 2013, 01:55 AM

Aug 2013

Not a fan at all of the NSA or what it does. The constitution is still in effect as far as I know

petronius

(26,602 posts)

6. It's not a real powerful argument against "none of this is new", to point

Reply to Gravitycollapse (Reply #4)

Mon Aug 5, 2013, 02:01 AM

Aug 2013

out that the information is almost older than you are...

(But I would agree that there is often great value in publicizing not-well-know information, no matter how old it may be.)

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)

9. I really like this ACLU quote

Reply to Gravitycollapse (Reply #2)

Mon Aug 5, 2013, 02:16 AM

Aug 2013

and I am going to keep this link handy.
“This is more than we’ve learned in the last 35 years,” says Michelle Richardson of the ACLU
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3404328

Spirochete

(5,264 posts)

7. The obvious choice

Reply to hrmjustin (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 5, 2013, 02:01 AM

Aug 2013

a mean bastard that caused no end of trouble because he thought it was his right to kill someone for not being like him. But i've seen Snowden vilified heavily too. I don't really consider him a hero. He seems kind of a twit, but he may have done us a sevice, although i distrust his motives (to make a democratic admin look bad) But by continuing and expanding the spying on all of us, they made it easy for him.

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)

8. I agree! I distrust him and his motives but he got us talking about stuff that needs