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Sometimes the myths are wrong... (Original Post) MrScorpio Aug 2013 OP
Anything that busts the stereotypes is a good thing Warpy Aug 2013 #1
NPR had a good piece on this a few months ago Major Nikon Aug 2013 #2
Obviously lots of confusion and numbers don't match. Can't all be right. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #3
These numbers are BS oberliner Aug 2013 #4
Thanks. Scurrilous Aug 2013 #5
good info, thanks for this ! nt steve2470 Aug 2013 #6
Those numbers are wrong... snooper2 Aug 2013 #7
Part of the confusion Captain Stern Aug 2013 #8
Reconciling the statistics Jim Lane Aug 2013 #9
Spread the word! freshwest Aug 2013 #10
Kick. Rec. Thanks, Mr. Scorpio. nt Hekate Aug 2013 #11

Warpy

(111,243 posts)
1. Anything that busts the stereotypes is a good thing
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 04:06 AM
Aug 2013

Some years ago, it was noted that black teens were smoking at a much lower rate than their white counterpart. I figured they were smarter if broker. And that was another stereotype gone.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
3. Obviously lots of confusion and numbers don't match. Can't all be right.
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 06:24 AM
Aug 2013

The graphic says: 164 K in prison or jail and 674 K in college.

Howard prof (post above) says: 840 K in prison and 1400 K in college. (includes men under criminal justice supervision including probation/parole)

The prof did some real digging into the stats and I'll go with his figures for now:

if you look at the representation of black males in college, they represent about 5 percent of the college population. If you look at the adult population of black males in the United States, we represent about 5.5 percent of the adult population. So contrary to popular belief, we aren't under-represented in higher education, but we are under-represented at competitive universities and over-represented at community colleges.

[...] the top 10 colleges for enrolling black males consist of three for-profit colleges, four community colleges and three public, four-year institutions.


Thank to MrScorpio and the poster above for providing a very stimulating topic and information.
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
4. These numbers are BS
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 06:38 AM
Aug 2013

And they even contradict another image from the same site (which has 734,000 as the number).

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
7. Those numbers are wrong...
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 02:58 PM
Aug 2013

doing some simple google searches apparently when President Obama said this in 2007-

“we have more black men in prison than we have in our colleges.”

It kicked off a number of articles and studies, this one so far seems the most accurate-





http://www.acenet.edu/the-presidency/columns-and-features/Pages/By-the-Numbers-More-Black-Men-in-Prison-Than-in-College-Think-Again-.aspx

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
8. Part of the confusion
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 03:03 PM
Aug 2013

might be because it appears that the set of numbers in the OP only apply to black men between the ages of 18-24....not the total population of black men.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
9. Reconciling the statistics
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 05:13 PM
Aug 2013

Some responses have disputed the OP's statistics. Note that the OP is limited to black men aged 18-24. In that age group, there's a heavy preponderance of college students over prisoners.

The supposedly contrary statistics presented upthread aren't limited by age. I'll guess that, among blacks and among whites, the percentage of students in the 18-24 population is far higher than the percentage in the entire adult population.

As a side note, several years ago I heard a political candidate say that members of Congress had a higher arrest rate than did unemployed black teenagers. I haven't verified that but it wouldn't surprise me in the least.

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