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Robb

(39,665 posts)
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 11:23 AM Aug 2013

Turns out she wasn't 2 years old. She was just 1.

Update: One-Year-Old Shot by Six-Year-Old in Danville

Danville Police say the child who was shot Sunday afternoon was one-year-old, turning two in October. They say seven people were in the house in the 700 block of Glendale Avenue when the shooting happened.

Police say a six-year-old found a gun in the house and it accidentally went off, hitting the one-year-old girl in the back while she was playing in another room.

Police say charges are pending against the gun's owner.

Read More: http://www.wset.com/story/23042414/update-one-year-old-shot-by-six-year-old-in-danville

Just FYI, In Virginia, it's preemptively against the law for lawmakers to attempt to regulate "purchase, possession, transfer, ownership, carrying, storage or transporting of firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof."

Do you live in a state where the guns are so well protected? Has it made your children safer?
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Turns out she wasn't 2 years old. She was just 1. (Original Post) Robb Aug 2013 OP
Ah yes, the good old Commonwealth of Virginia theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #1
They need to file charges every time someone is injured or killed by a firearm that is Arkansas Granny Aug 2013 #2
That won't happen. It's also illegal to regulate possession or storage of guns there. kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #5
i agree! Bully Taw Aug 2013 #11
In what state do you live? Jenoch Aug 2013 #14
Massachusetts Bully Taw Aug 2013 #16
A national gun registration law is currently illegal. Jenoch Aug 2013 #17
i think all states require some form of permit Bully Taw Aug 2013 #18
There are gun laws about the purchase of firearms. Jenoch Aug 2013 #19
Well... Bully Taw Aug 2013 #20
"...a lot of work to do..." on WHAT front? Jenoch Aug 2013 #21
gun control n/t Bully Taw Aug 2013 #22
Actually very few states require any permit for purchases. ManiacJoe Aug 2013 #29
Cletus sez: 'Ah am the NRA!' onehandle Aug 2013 #3
You forgot the rebel flag theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #4
I was there a few years ago and saw a bumper sticker that read : yesphan Aug 2013 #6
Another goodie from Virginia theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #7
I live in FL. lark Aug 2013 #8
If this occurred in Virginia, and if it is against the law to regulate guns in any manner, why are AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #9
That's the first thing I thought. pintobean Aug 2013 #12
Negligence is negligence. You don't need a specific law. yellowcanine Aug 2013 #23
Only child endangerment? Research with case law might indicate that a death caused by leaving a AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #24
The child survived in this case so that would be the appropriate charge...... yellowcanine Aug 2013 #25
I understand that the kid survived in this case. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #26
Robb... I can't imagine Mira Aug 2013 #10
Every time? Have you ever made a little noise against the proliferation of gun-carrying gang members AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #13
In Minnesota it is the law Jenoch Aug 2013 #15
Robb, i have a question for you. darkangel218 Aug 2013 #27
UPDATE: She's stable, and reportedly awake. And the gun was unharmed. Robb Aug 2013 #28

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
1. Ah yes, the good old Commonwealth of Virginia
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 11:31 AM
Aug 2013

If you think those laws are mind-boggling, you ought to review the ones they have against GLBT citizens and the current war on women being conducted by Cuccinelli and McDonnell. The state has been hijacked by teabaggers and religious wingnuts. BTW, an awful lot of Virginia guns end up on the D.C. streets due to straw purchases.

Virginia is for lovers? Only lovers of guns -- lovers of women and LGBTs, not so much. My partner and I lived in Virginia for a few years and within the first week of our taking up residence, the KKK left a love note on our doorstep in the middle of the night.

Arkansas Granny

(31,514 posts)
2. They need to file charges every time someone is injured or killed by a firearm that is
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 11:45 AM
Aug 2013

not safely stored.

I hope the little girl survives and that the six-year-old is receiving counseling so he is not traumatized by what has happened. It's certainly not his fault.

 

Bully Taw

(194 posts)
11. i agree!
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 01:49 PM
Aug 2013

I also think that people caught with an unregistered gun should have a 5 year mandatory sentence. No questions asked, no explanations accepted, 5 years for any unregistered gun possession. Committing a crime with an unregistered gun should carry an automatic 20 years, in addition to any other sentence for the crime itself.

curbing possession of unregistered guns should be the top priority of gun control.

 

Bully Taw

(194 posts)
16. Massachusetts
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 02:24 PM
Aug 2013

which I just found out does not have registration. I am not a gun owner, and probably never will be a gun owner. I guess I would require that all guns be registered first.

I think what I was trying to say was the possession of guns without a licence.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
17. A national gun registration law is currently illegal.
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 03:00 PM
Aug 2013

I don't know about FOID, or a license to possess a firearm.

 

Bully Taw

(194 posts)
18. i think all states require some form of permit
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 03:02 PM
Aug 2013

but I don't know for sure. As I said, I won't own a gun. and those that have illegal guns have to be handled first.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
19. There are gun laws about the purchase of firearms.
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 03:05 PM
Aug 2013

For instance, in Minnesota for someone to buy a handgun or 'assault weapon' and permit to purchase is required. This permit includes a more thorough background check than the federal NICS. There is no permit required to purchase a long gun.

 

Bully Taw

(194 posts)
20. Well...
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 03:09 PM
Aug 2013

sounds like there is a lot of work to do on that front, then.

I support the second amendment, but not without restrictions and strict laws.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
29. Actually very few states require any permit for purchases.
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 08:48 PM
Aug 2013
i think all states require some form of permit but I don't know for sure. As I said, I won't own a gun. and those that have illegal guns have to be handled first.

Actually very few states require any permit for purchases.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
4. You forgot the rebel flag
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 12:07 PM
Aug 2013

In Virginia, you've got to have at LEAST one of those. Plus a bumper sticker for your pickup that says, "Jeff Davis was right!" or "Happiness is a warm machine gun". Those are right popular, too.

yesphan

(1,587 posts)
6. I was there a few years ago and saw a bumper sticker that read :
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 12:59 PM
Aug 2013

My Boss was an Austrian Painter.

Ohh, how clever.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
7. Another goodie from Virginia
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 01:18 PM
Aug 2013

A bumper sticker with a portrait bust of MLK posing in front of the Capital Building with the text, "I have a dream". I thought that was really cool until I got closer and saw that in the picture there was also a Rebel flag flying over the Capital. Good ol Virginia. How I don't miss it.

lark

(23,091 posts)
8. I live in FL.
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 01:38 PM
Aug 2013

Obviously our gun laws have directly led to murder being exonerated.

When will America start caring as much for their or our children as they do for their guns?

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
9. If this occurred in Virginia, and if it is against the law to regulate guns in any manner, why are
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 01:40 PM
Aug 2013

charges pending against the gun's owner?

I'm not familiar with any Virginia law which preemptively gives immunity for negligent gun storage. Does such a law really exist? Why doesn't someone tell the police that?

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
12. That's the first thing I thought.
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 01:57 PM
Aug 2013

Maybe the law existed before the law was passed to make it unlawful to change the law.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
23. Negligence is negligence. You don't need a specific law.
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 03:15 PM
Aug 2013

Leaving a loaded gun where a six year old can get it is negligence and child endangerment.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
24. Only child endangerment? Research with case law might indicate that a death caused by leaving a
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 03:23 PM
Aug 2013

loaded gun where a six year old could get it might uncover a manslaughter case or two.

IMO, no one should infer or suggest that criminal laws do not apply to a homicide because somehow, if true, Virginia adopted a state constitutional amendment or statute prohibiting the Virginia legislature from passing specific legislation regarding the storage of firearms.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
25. The child survived in this case so that would be the appropriate charge......
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 03:29 PM
Aug 2013

If a death occurs, then yes, manslaughter might be appropriate also.

Mira

(22,380 posts)
10. Robb... I can't imagine
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 01:48 PM
Aug 2013

how many folks here have you on ignore.
Every time I even make a little noise against the proliferation of illegally owned and or unregulated guns I get new ignores. It's a given, and makes me shake my head with pain in my heart.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
13. Every time? Have you ever made a little noise against the proliferation of gun-carrying gang members
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 02:05 PM
Aug 2013

in Chicago caught with guns who can be out in less than two years and resume their gun carrying activities?

If you have made a little noise on that issue, please excuse me but I've never heard it.

In fact, there seems to be a general absence of any noise from gun controllers to gun-using criminals separated from guns and kept in prison for longer periods of time.

There also seems to be a general absence of any noise from gun controllers for economic reform as one method for reducing unnecessary gun violence. Why is that?

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
15. In Minnesota it is the law
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 02:15 PM
Aug 2013

that firearms stored in a home must be locked and unloaded with the ammunition stored separately. The other alternative is for the firearm to be disabled and the parts stored separately.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
27. Robb, i have a question for you.
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 03:40 PM
Aug 2013

If it was possible, would you ban all guns from civilian use? I'm just curious.

Robb

(39,665 posts)
28. UPDATE: She's stable, and reportedly awake. And the gun was unharmed.
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 07:30 PM
Aug 2013
http://www.wset.com/story/23051185/one-year-old-danville-girl-stable-following-shooting

The gun owner could be facing a class 3 misdemeanor charge.

So the gun owner is in no danger of having his ability to own a gun come into question.
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