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marmar

(77,042 posts)
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 08:07 AM Aug 2013

London Strolling

from The Economist:




Urban pedestrians buck a national trend
Aug 3rd 2013


LONDON is a city made for walking. Unlike, for instance, Los Angeles its centre is easily accessible on foot. Outer boroughs are no more than an hour or two away. Its curved streets, in contrast to the rigid grid of New York, welcome idle wanderers and busy commuters alike. But despite traffic queues and teeming underground carriages most prefer to drive or to squeeze on to the Tube to get around the city. This is starting to change.

Between 2001 and 2011 the number of trips made daily on foot in London increased by 12%. Nearly a third of the Londoners sampled made a continuous walk of 30 minutes once a week between 2010 and 2011 to get from place to place, rather than for exercise. Each day 6.2m walks are made across the city.

And both rich and poor walk a similar amount. In areas such as Kensington and Chelsea 11% walk for at least 30 minutes five times a week or more. In Tower Hamlets 12% of residents do. One of the largest changes in the city over the past decade is the number of pedestrians, says Michèle Dix of Transport for London (TfL), which runs the city’s transport networks. On July 10th TfL launched the Roads Task Force, with plans to spruce up pavements.

Several reasons account for the walking boom. The number of Londoners increased by 12% from 7.3m in 2001 to 8.2m in 2011, and Tube trains are broiling and overcrowded. But other factors also encourage pedestrians. In 2004 Ken Livingstone, then mayor of London, vowed to make London a “walkable city”. Some of his plans were carried on by Boris Johnson, the current mayor. These include a scheme to create clearly-marked maps for use across the city. Of 33 boroughs in London 22 now have the distinctive yellow-branded signs on their streets. All TfL-owned property (such as Tube stations and bicycle-hire points) is covered by the scheme. This deters tourists from popping on the Tube to travel one stop from Covent Garden to Leicester Square, a distance of 0.3m (0.5km) says Tony Armstrong of Living Streets, a charity for pedestrians. ........................(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.economist.com/news/britain/21582576-urban-pedestrians-buck-national-trend-footfalls?fsrc=scn/tw_ec/footfalls



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London Strolling (Original Post) marmar Aug 2013 OP
du rec. xchrom Aug 2013 #1
"popping on the Tube to travel one stop from Covent Garden to Leicester Square" dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #2
And it could be more than that by tube Mark Baker Aug 2013 #3
Exactly dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #4
but maybe not in the rain. mnhtnbb Aug 2013 #6
Several years ago... Johnny Noshoes Aug 2013 #8
I think the point is that visitors forget the Tube map is not to scale muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #9
Edgware to Morden. dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #10
And half way along we find ... Mornington Crescent! muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #11
Was Mornington Crescent the business with his father dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #12
No, I'm just a "I'm Sorry, I Haven't a Clue" fan muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #13
see here dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #14
Map here Mark Baker Aug 2013 #5
"Nearly a third of the Londoners sampled made a continuous walk of 30 minutes once a week" Scuba Aug 2013 #7
When we took our family to Florida on vacation, we were walking from the hotel, mr blur Aug 2013 #15
Please stop hating us for our freedoms Heddi Aug 2013 #17
On our visit to England to visit my wife's folks, we frequently used "shank's pony" in London Liberal In Texas Aug 2013 #16

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
2. "popping on the Tube to travel one stop from Covent Garden to Leicester Square"
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 08:30 AM
Aug 2013

That is tragic - its less than a 10 minute slow stroll.

Mark Baker

(94 posts)
3. And it could be more than that by tube
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 08:43 AM
Aug 2013

By the time you've gone down all the tunnels to get to the train, and up again at the other end, you've probably walked about as far as you would going directly along the surface.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
4. Exactly
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 08:49 AM
Aug 2013

I'd also written chapter and verse on what you wrote but deleted before posting. Even if it was raining you'd need to be pretty lame to be bothered by that with such a short walk.

mnhtnbb

(31,365 posts)
6. but maybe not in the rain.
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 08:49 AM
Aug 2013

I love London--probably my favorite city in the world. If it's not raining, it's really fun
to walk--but very easy to get lost--and the tube is a fascinating place to people watch.

Johnny Noshoes

(1,977 posts)
8. Several years ago...
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 10:12 AM
Aug 2013

Several years ago my brother - who grew up in New York - came for a visit with his now ex,her daughter and two of her friends. One day we were at Grand Central Station and they wanted to go to the Empire State Building. My brother wanted to take the subway so I said okay sure. We went ONE stop to 33rd street. When we got out I pointed back at Grand Central and said - see we could've walked that distance. I get around on foot or by mass transit in NYC. Never learned how to drive and some people who don't live in a big city don't seem to fully get it.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,257 posts)
9. I think the point is that visitors forget the Tube map is not to scale
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 05:16 PM
Aug 2013

It can be quite surprising to see the 'true' Tube map:



http://www.nothingaboutpotatoes.co.uk/2010/08/things-18-layton-squares-lesson-learned-iwiwal/

Covent Garden is about the same distance from Embankment (3 stops) as from Holborn (1 stop).

muriel_volestrangler

(101,257 posts)
11. And half way along we find ... Mornington Crescent!
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 06:40 PM
Aug 2013

(This is a legal move, thanks to Johnson's Back-Hander...)

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
12. Was Mornington Crescent the business with his father
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 07:32 AM
Aug 2013

being just outside the HS2 blight zone ?

On the subject of the Northern Line I always found the most interesting thing to be the ghost station , North End Station / Hampstead Garden Suburb , between Golders Green and Hampstead. You could see the platform in the gloom as you passed it.



This is a ‘ghost’ station on the Northern Line which would have served a new residential development being planned for the north of the Heath on part of Eton College’s Wyldes Farm. However, although larger-diameter station tunnels and low-level passageways were excavated as part of the works to extend the line from Hampstead to Golders Green which began in 1903, Hampstead Heath Extension council was also formed in 1903 by Henrietta Barnett and the purchase of the 80 acres of development land, which came to be known as the Heath Extension, was completed in 1907. Work on the station was ended in 1906 after it became apparent that the removal of the proposed residential development would significantly reduce the number of passengers using the station. The uncompleted platforms and lower passageways remain, bricked-off from the tracks. The remaining 243 acres of Wyldes farm were transferred to a trust in 1907 to become the site of Hampstead Garden Suburb, Henrietta Barnet’s utopian experiment in suburban planning.

During the 1950s the station, which at 200 ft below ground level would have the deepest in the network, was rumoured to be London Transport's potential emergency headquarters in the event of a nuclear detonation in or near London and at around this time access to the station from the surface in the form of a rectangular staircase was finally provided. Later, it is believed to have become one of the control centres for the Underground's floodgate system. Signs on the gate and on the building's door indicate that the site is now a designated emergency exit point for the Underground network.

http://www.hampsteadramblers.org.uk/self-guided-walks/15-themed-walks/7-ghosts-hampstead-and-highgate-walk.html

Although Edgware is the end of the line there are 3 curious humps in open land to the north of Edgware. Story has it they considered extending the line north to Elstree / Boreham Wood.

Early sixties when I was considerably fitter and the old Northern Line Strand Station was still there I could get in and out of town for the jazz clubs from Edgware for 6 pence in old money. The ticket collector was in the lift which I could outrun up the long winding staircase which most in their right mind wouldn't have even consider using at a leisurely pace.

The Northern line Strand station was closed on 4 June 1973 to enable the construction of the new Jubilee line platforms. These platforms were constructed between the Bakerloo line and Northern line platforms together with the long-missing below-ground interchange between those two lines. In anticipation of the new interchange station, from 4 August 1974 Charing Cross was renamed Charing Cross Embankment. The Jubilee line platforms and the refurbished Northern Line platforms opened on 1 May 1979 from which date the combined station including Trafalgar Square was given its current name; simultaneously Charing Cross Embankment reverted to the original BS&WR name of Embankment, ending 109 years of association with the name Charing Cross. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charing_Cross_tube_station

muriel_volestrangler

(101,257 posts)
13. No, I'm just a "I'm Sorry, I Haven't a Clue" fan
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 07:44 AM
Aug 2013

and when I see lists of Tube stations, I tend to think of Mornington Crescent. "Johnson's Back-Hander" was picked more or less at random (though I thought the London Mayoral connection helps give it a second meaning); I'd never heard about his dad's house.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
14. see here
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 08:05 AM
Aug 2013

Boris Johnson's father reveals concerns over HS2 compensation scheme.

Boris Johnson’s father has attacked the “deeply flawed” government compensation scheme for property owners facing years of blight because of the High Speed 2 rail route.

Stanley Johnson said the proposed compensation was a “real attack on investments”, “unfair” and needed to be “revised very significantly”.

His Regent’s Park home is just a few metres outside a compensation zone surrounding the £33billion HS2 railway.

http://www.51m.co.uk/news/boris-johnsons-father-reveals-concerns-over-hs2-compensation-scheme

The word "tough" comes to mind.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
7. "Nearly a third of the Londoners sampled made a continuous walk of 30 minutes once a week"
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 09:18 AM
Aug 2013

I wonder how Americans compare.

 

mr blur

(7,753 posts)
15. When we took our family to Florida on vacation, we were walking from the hotel,
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 08:42 AM
Aug 2013

to a restaurant which we could see from the hotel entrance. A police car pulled up and two cops jumped out and demanded to know where we were going (that's me, my wife and 8-year-old son).

I explained that we were staying at the hotel and we were going to 'that' restaurant for dinner.

"Do you have a car? Why are you not driving?", he wanted to know.

I said something like, "There's no way I'm going to drive four hundred yards to a place I can see from here! We're from London, we walk everywhere!"

He replied (I kid you not), "Well, you shouldn't walk around here when you can drive."

I asked if we'd broken some law or might be in any danger (we were in the hotel car park). We hadn't and we weren't; he obviously thought there was something suspicious about two adults and a boy walking. Which seemed very sad, to me.

Heddi

(18,312 posts)
17. Please stop hating us for our freedoms
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 08:45 AM
Aug 2013

our freedom to drive from one parking lot to another. IN the same shopping complex. To go to 2 different stores 150 feet from each other. Because people do that. Because we're American and we have freedom. Unlike you people from the united kingodm of England. OR whatever...

Liberal In Texas

(13,519 posts)
16. On our visit to England to visit my wife's folks, we frequently used "shank's pony" in London
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 08:43 AM
Aug 2013

...what Brits call walking.

When we got tired there was always a nice pub to stop and have a rest.

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