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PDJane

(10,103 posts)
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 08:47 AM Aug 2013

A Petition Calls for the National Guard to Disarm Militia Holding Town Hostage.

Following a public meeting in the Borough of Gilberton, Pennsylvania, in which armed supporters of the infamous Police Chief Mark Kessler blocked members of the community from entering the building, citizens have created a We The People Petition at Whitehouse.gov calling for federal intervention in the town. The petition asks for the National Guard to disarm the suspended police chief and his followers, who call themselves the “Constitution Security Force.”

Tensions began in the Borough of Gilberton after the local Chief of Police posted online videos of himself firing automatic weapons while calling for violence against Democrats and making veiled threats toward Secretary of State John Kerry. After it was determined that the weapons used in the videos were the property of the Gilbertson Police Force, the Borough Council called a meeting to discuss disciplinary actions for the videos. Kessler posted another video, in which he called on members of the “Constitutional Security Force,” a band of private militia of which Kessler is the head, to attend the council meeting. Kessler claimed in the video that council members were “conspiring to fire him.” Brandishing automatic weapons, more than a hundred members of the militia arrived at the meeting, creating a situation that Michael Morril of Keystone Progress described as one of the most frightening he has ever experienced. Morril attended the meeting in order to deliver signatures gathered by more than 20,000 U.S. citizens, calling for Kessler to be fired by the Council. He told the Huffington Post in a follow-up e-mail:



Read more: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/08/05/we-the-people-petition-calls-for-the-national-guard-to-disarm-pennsylvania-police-chief-kessler/#ixzz2bC0Bx6BM


I don't know about you, but I find this terrifying. This asshat has just taken over, is suppressing dissent, and he's still not being fired. Proof, I suppose, that intimidation works.

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A Petition Calls for the National Guard to Disarm Militia Holding Town Hostage. (Original Post) PDJane Aug 2013 OP
For sure Old Codger Aug 2013 #1
Eventually the ATF/FBI will have to be called in n2doc Aug 2013 #2
I suspect they are better armed that the FBI and the ATF. Whiskeytide Aug 2013 #18
He'll never start the fight himself tom_kelly Aug 2013 #32
I agree. Whiskeytide Aug 2013 #37
Lessons learned from Waco - don't overreact. leveymg Aug 2013 #31
Agreed. Hence the media blackout........ TheDebbieDee Aug 2013 #53
Here's the FBI tipline meow2u3 Aug 2013 #33
ter·ror·ism justiceischeap Aug 2013 #3
No, no, not Gitmo. JimboBillyBubbaBob Aug 2013 #5
Absolutely. We need to re-establish the rule of law. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #16
I blame Hannity & Limbaugh annabanana Aug 2013 #4
stochastic n/t Bossy Monkey Aug 2013 #8
Only this isn't merely stochastic terrorism meow2u3 Aug 2013 #27
If this isn't a terrorist...what is? world wide wally Aug 2013 #6
K&R dbackjon Aug 2013 #7
Tweeted, faced, k & r .... n/that annabanana Aug 2013 #9
have a peek at the lovely fellow Voice for Peace Aug 2013 #10
Most likely a racist too... kracer20 Aug 2013 #11
What a dangerous idiot...He needs to be stopped! masmdu Aug 2013 #19
How did he get hired/promoted to position of Chief? tom_kelly Aug 2013 #35
Something is terribly wrong with this person. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #47
A gun hick with power Kingofalldems Aug 2013 #48
Glad to hear this. Very glad. (nt) Paladin Aug 2013 #12
Sickening. Dude should be in jail. nt SunSeeker Aug 2013 #13
Time for the 2nd amendment to be enforced Blecht Aug 2013 #14
A REAL 2nd Amendment solution, as opposed to a teabagger one meow2u3 Aug 2013 #29
Wonder where he gets it from Kees Aug 2013 #52
Surely that falls under the "enemies domestic" clause of service oaths as well. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2013 #15
Link to We the People petition meow2u3 Aug 2013 #17
thanks for the link 90-percent Aug 2013 #21
#729 here. Brigid Aug 2013 #28
Signed nykym Aug 2013 #43
Forget Orswell's 1984 popsdenver Aug 2013 #20
Orwell mikeysnot Aug 2013 #23
You're not wrong about this. n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #25
repealing or letting expire the semi automatic weapons ban mikeysnot Aug 2013 #22
Only a few bad apples ...everywhere you look. n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #24
#729 here on that petition. Brigid Aug 2013 #26
This a big deal.... vduhr Aug 2013 #30
Excellent question. Brigid Aug 2013 #34
If you are blocking the community from a public meeting blackspade Aug 2013 #36
Wow. Bizarre situation. (nt) pinto Aug 2013 #38
a gun grab will inflame the nuttery across the country grasswire Aug 2013 #39
So, let's do a hand-grab instead. kentauros Aug 2013 #41
Let the feds handle the town, Waco style. Mr. David Aug 2013 #40
It might be cheaper Turbineguy Aug 2013 #42
The Kochsucker brothers, the NRA and others should be proud. bearssoapbox Aug 2013 #44
Yep, knew this guy would turn into a monster. Rex Aug 2013 #45
This nut discharged a gun in a packed bar 53tammy Aug 2013 #46
Our Governor mstinamotorcity2 Aug 2013 #49
This petition is now at 1,061! Brigid Aug 2013 #50
This needs to be nipped in the bud felix_numinous Aug 2013 #51
Welcome to our future. Triana Aug 2013 #54

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
2. Eventually the ATF/FBI will have to be called in
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 09:36 AM
Aug 2013

and there will be a siege, followed by death. I feel sorry for the good citizens of that town, it must be awful to be taken over by lunatics.

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
18. I suspect they are better armed that the FBI and the ATF.
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 11:07 AM
Aug 2013

The military will have to get involved eventually. This is serious madness. This guy is dangerously deranged. And he will eventually start the fight himself if he can't provoke the government into doing it.

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
37. I agree.
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 12:00 PM
Aug 2013

And that's what I meant, - that his end will throw the first punch. I don't think he will actually get out front and lead the charge.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
31. Lessons learned from Waco - don't overreact.
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 11:50 AM
Aug 2013

Don't create a media spectacle. Don't make nuts into martyrs.

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
33. Here's the FBI tipline
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 11:51 AM
Aug 2013
https://tips.fbi.gov/

Philadelphia FBI office:

FBI Philadelphia
8th. Floor
William J. Green Jr. FOB
600 Arch Street
Philadelphia, PA 19106
http://www.fbi.gov/philadelphia/
(215) 418-4000

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
3. ter·ror·ism
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 10:06 AM
Aug 2013

Noun
The use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

Throw a hood over this guys head and ship him to Gitmo... he isn't any different than any of the other detainees there (except he's actually guilty of terrorism).

JimboBillyBubbaBob

(1,389 posts)
5. No, no, not Gitmo.
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 10:31 AM
Aug 2013

This threat and his armed followers should be charged and tried under the existing judicial system, and if found guilty, sentenced to serve time in a state prison. The Constitution and its enactment by the people should be exercised in this case. It would aid in reestablishing the rule of law over the extra-judicial concept of Gitmo. Power to the People!

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
16. Absolutely. We need to re-establish the rule of law.
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 11:05 AM
Aug 2013

While we're at it, we ought to get the cops back on the street with maybe .38 revolvers and take away their combat toys.

kracer20

(199 posts)
11. Most likely a racist too...
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 10:53 AM
Aug 2013

Nice Confederate flag there... If I were a black person that was arrested and charged by this guy and his group, I'd have my lawyer looking into this.

masmdu

(2,536 posts)
19. What a dangerous idiot...He needs to be stopped!
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 11:08 AM
Aug 2013

I feel sorry for this town and any liberal/moderate citizens of the town. They must feel terrorized. This guy and his minions need to be removed NOW!!

tom_kelly

(959 posts)
35. How did he get hired/promoted to position of Chief?
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 11:54 AM
Aug 2013

He couldn't have awoke one day and decided to act like this. I mean, he has to have a history that could/should have been looked into. I'm stymied...

Blecht

(3,803 posts)
14. Time for the 2nd amendment to be enforced
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 11:02 AM
Aug 2013

If there was ever a militia that needed to be well regulated, this is it.

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
29. A REAL 2nd Amendment solution, as opposed to a teabagger one
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 11:46 AM
Aug 2013

It's time to bring in the National Guard--our real well-regulated militia mentioned in the 2nd Amendment--to suppress a real terrorist and insurrectionist threat.

Then prosecute Kessler to the fullest extent of the law, so he'll never see the outside of a prison wall as long as he lives.

popsdenver

(14 posts)
20. Forget Orswell's 1984
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 11:28 AM
Aug 2013

Forget about Orswell's 1984.

Read Orswell's primer to 1984 titled ANIMAL FARM.

I read ANIMAL FARM almost fifty years ago (and 1984) as assigned reading in Junior High School. To us, it was sort of a goofy science fiction kind of thing back then. After living and observing these past fifty years, and especially since 2000, I don't think it so funny anymore as you see everything in Animal Farm and a lot of 1984 come true, one step after another. You have to remember that Orswell wrote them in the late 1940's I think!!!!!

If anyone thinks we can dig ourselves out of this mess that has been, and is still being created in the U.S., you are dreaming. I sadly and truly feel that this time the "powers to be" have taken it too far.......

I still hope I am wrong about all this...........

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
26. #729 here on that petition.
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 11:40 AM
Aug 2013

This sounds like something out of a terrifying movie. Only it's all too real.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
36. If you are blocking the community from a public meeting
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 11:57 AM
Aug 2013

you are not part of a 'Constitution Security Force'.
You are a pack of armed thugs that should be arrested.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
39. a gun grab will inflame the nuttery across the country
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 12:16 PM
Aug 2013

It will become the excuse for a shooting war here at home.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
41. So, let's do a hand-grab instead.
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 12:22 PM
Aug 2013

And surgically attach leather mittens over their hands.

"Remove" the trigger-finger, remove the problem.

 

Mr. David

(535 posts)
40. Let the feds handle the town, Waco style.
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 12:17 PM
Aug 2013

The Feds could have the armed militia (and highly UNREGULATED thus the reason for the strict interpretation of mine regarding the 2nd Amendment) pissing in their pants within minutes of being surrounded in all areas.

Turbineguy

(37,324 posts)
42. It might be cheaper
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 12:33 PM
Aug 2013

to give those who wish to leave full value for their assets and let the town alone.

bearssoapbox

(1,408 posts)
44. The Kochsucker brothers, the NRA and others should be proud.
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 01:42 PM
Aug 2013

They are the sponsors of the Terrorists & Enemies of America Party.

mstinamotorcity2

(1,451 posts)
49. Our Governor
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 06:43 PM
Aug 2013

is doing the same thing. Just with a pencil. It is fucked up being under the ignorance of idiots. That is why it won't be long before someone gets seriously hurt. Its only a matter of time.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
51. This needs to be nipped in the bud
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 07:07 PM
Aug 2013

before this spreads, and it will unless it is stopped now. I would back the National Guard to come in and defend the citizens of this town against these extremists--they ARE an actual domestic threat. Wow how frightening for these people!!

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
54. Welcome to our future.
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 11:46 PM
Aug 2013

If the Teabaggers/John Birchers/American Taliban get their way. And they ARE getting their way in state after state.

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