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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 01:16 PM Aug 2013

The 'conscience of the US Congress' on Snowden

John Lewis, the man Obama called the 'conscience of the US Congress',



Lewis, a 73-year-old congressman and the last surviving lieutenant of Martin Luther King, said Snowden could claim he was appealing to "a higher law" when he disclosed top secret documents showing the extent of NSA surveillance of both Americans and foreigners.

Asked in interview with the Guardian whether Snowden was engaged in an act of civil disobedience, Lewis nodded and replied: "In keeping with the philosophy and the discipline of non-violence, in keeping with the teaching of David Theroux and people like Gandhi and others, if you believe something that is not right, something is unjust, and you are willing to defy customs, traditions, bad laws, then you have a conscience. You have a right to defy those laws and be willing to pay the price."

"That is what we did," he added. "I got arrested 40 times during the sixties. Since I've been in Congress I've been arrested four times. Sometimes you have to act by the dictates of your conscience. You have to do it."


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/07/john-lewis-civil-rights-edward-snowden

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starroute

(12,977 posts)
2. I assume Lewis was actually refering to Henry David Thoreau
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 03:07 PM
Aug 2013

The only David Theroux I can find is a libertarian and associated with the Cato Institute.

Bad mistake on The Guardian's part.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
4. I have a great amount of respect for Mr. Lewis, but....
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 04:11 PM
Aug 2013

I'm afraid he's still dead wrong on Snowden, though: the guy really was up to no good.

At least Bradley Manning didn't sell classified info to another country(or 2!), and faced up to what he did. Snowden? He fucking ran like the coward he is and is now hiding in Russia!

Manning, for all his faults, did truly believe that he was helping people by doing what he did. Snowden? No such luck! Snowden was a crook from the very beginning(not to mention that he's a Ron Paul fanatic, which set off a LOT of alarm bells in my mind). And I find it tragic that some here on DU have fallen for his schtick.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
6. It's public knowledge for the most part, that he gave info to both China & Russia.
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 06:48 PM
Aug 2013

Okay, I admit "sold" might not have been the best adjective. But the shoe does still fit in a general sense.

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
10. I would call it fibbing.It is not public knowledge.
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 08:49 PM
Aug 2013

You can't just make stuff up. It is not right. Truly.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
13. Not making anything up.
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 09:22 PM
Aug 2013

A lot of this stuff really was made public. No smoking guns, to be honest, but plenty of evidence pointing in that direction(looking back on it, I think I misspoke. My apologies), even though Snowden insists otherwise....
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TheKentuckian

(25,018 posts)
8. It is just something to say to justify the shittiness.
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 08:29 PM
Aug 2013

Allows for a bit of red baiting as well though it comes with the nonsensical position of declaring China as the enemy when we know they have been a "most favored" for well over a decade and that we borrow heavily from them.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
7. A man who's lived life on the side of the Angels would know better than anyone.
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 07:04 PM
Aug 2013

COINTELPRO went after Lewis, too.

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