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apples and oranges

(1,451 posts)
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 01:30 PM Aug 2013

Cop tracks down and arrests woman who lied about dying dad to get out of speeding ticket

New Hampshire police officer Christoper Cummings pulled over Carley Williams on Friday night for speeding, US ABC News reports. She was going 82mph/h (132km/h) in a 65mp/h zone. An "emotional" Ms Williams told the officer she was rushing to get to the hospital, where her father was dying.

The cop took down the name of the hospital and her father’s name, then let Ms Williams go, telling her to drive safely.

However, when he called the hospital to check her story, staff told him the man wasn’t a patient. An online search uncovered his obit on a funeral home website, showing he had died in 2008.

"I was upset," said Mr Cummings. "For someone to lie about their deceased father just to get out of a speeding ticket was pretty upsetting to me as a person,” he told ABC News.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/cop-tracks-down-and-arrests-woman-who-lied-about-dying-dad-to-get-out-of-speeding-ticket/story-fni0xs61-1226693192627


This cop went way too far in googling this woman and her father. Outrageous! "Police state" indeed!
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Cop tracks down and arrests woman who lied about dying dad to get out of speeding ticket (Original Post) apples and oranges Aug 2013 OP
Your comment is sarcasm, right? Shrike47 Aug 2013 #1
Yet Parallel Construction from law enforcement continues. PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #2
At least those who get caught lying have anger... justified or not. LanternWaste Aug 2013 #9
Did you forget the "sarcasam" tag? Mopar151 Aug 2013 #3
Absolutely not! apples and oranges Aug 2013 #4
Really? Egnever Aug 2013 #13
What if he had issued the citation and later found out she had committed murder? Orrex Aug 2013 #16
Absolutely not Lee-Lee Aug 2013 #22
They just gotta get that money Politicalboi Aug 2013 #5
She was speeding with a suspended registration Orrex Aug 2013 #15
you're kidding. she's the piece of shit. I have no problem with what the cop did cali Aug 2013 #33
+1000 n-t Logical Aug 2013 #41
He gave her the benefit of the doubt and let her go. pintobean Aug 2013 #6
What a horrible thing for her to do! HappyMe Aug 2013 #7
Dumbass driver. Sheldon Cooper Aug 2013 #8
if lying was a crime, the police would mostly be in jail lol nt msongs Aug 2013 #10
I missed the part where she was charged with lying onenote Aug 2013 #30
Good for him. DavidDvorkin Aug 2013 #11
This is your example of an outrageous police state? Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #12
Why aren't you in this thread? woo me with science Aug 2013 #14
There is evidence to suggest movement toward a police state. This ain't it. Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #28
Good oldhippie Aug 2013 #17
Reckless drivers kill. She needed that smack down. nt tblue37 Aug 2013 #18
That police officer should be a detective on the force. Sometime the police need to follow up... Tikki Aug 2013 #19
The woman got what she deserved npk Aug 2013 #20
sounds like good old fashioned detective work to me frylock Aug 2013 #21
not much sympathy for her. rather she got the ticketthan arrested though Liberal_in_LA Aug 2013 #23
Good for him - she tried a stunt, and failed, and was probably petronius Aug 2013 #24
When folks lie & punk around without consequence, it becomes sport. Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #29
Thanks to this asshole woman COLGATE4 Aug 2013 #25
"Don't lie to the police" would seem to be the moral of this tale (nt) Nye Bevan Aug 2013 #26
good for the officer - I am sure her Father would have been ashamed of this lie DrDan Aug 2013 #27
I'm floored by the amount of people siding with the cop apples and oranges Aug 2013 #31
You think cops aren't allowed to google people? Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #32
I'm floored that anyone would side with the piece of shit woman who lied to get out of a ticket cali Aug 2013 #35
She lied to a cop to save her ass. She deserved it. And he broke no law. WTF is wrong with you? n-t Logical Aug 2013 #36
If you post in an open forum using your real name about doing drugs Lee-Lee Aug 2013 #37
Hear, hear! n/t Mugu Aug 2013 #40
He could not arrest her Jenoch Aug 2013 #39
Idiot woman deserved to get punished. You are clueless. n-t Logical Aug 2013 #34
same thing happened to me about 25 years ago dembotoz Aug 2013 #38
 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
2. Yet Parallel Construction from law enforcement continues.
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 01:36 PM
Aug 2013

Last edited Wed Aug 7, 2013, 03:16 PM - Edit history (1)

Message from law enforcement

"We can do it (make up stories) but you can not."

And they (law enforcement) wonder why people have so much anger towards them.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
9. At least those who get caught lying have anger... justified or not.
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 02:50 PM
Aug 2013

"And they wonder why people have so much anger towards them..."

At least those who get caught lying have anger... justified or not.

Mopar151

(9,974 posts)
3. Did you forget the "sarcasam" tag?
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 01:37 PM
Aug 2013

Her license was under suspension, which makes her a double liar, pretty likely a pathalogical liar. Don't like 'em.......

apples and oranges

(1,451 posts)
4. Absolutely not!
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 01:45 PM
Aug 2013

The time to address any problems with her license was during the stop. He crossed the line when he decided to call the hospital and investigate her online until he found something to charge her with. On top of that, he had the audacity to show up at her door asking more questions? Who the hell does he think he is? He's a street cop, not a detective on CSI!

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
13. Really?
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 02:58 PM
Aug 2013

So if your dad was dying in the hospital and you got pulled over you would prefer if they arrested you on the spot rather than let you go see your dad?

I would think that would be much more of a police state than this.

I'll take the cop with the compassion to let me go see my dad every time. If my story doesnt check out then i deserve what i get at that point.

I Recently had a child fall out of second story window and I rushed him to the hospital. all I kept thinking on the way was that if a cop tries to stop me I am not stopping. Mostly because I didnt think I would run into a cop like the one in this story.

Orrex

(63,169 posts)
16. What if he had issued the citation and later found out she had committed murder?
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 03:18 PM
Aug 2013

Would he be required to let her go because he didn't arrest her at the time of the traffic stop?

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
22. Absolutely not
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 03:42 PM
Aug 2013

A street cop is every bit as empowered to do further investigation into a crime as anyone else.

He could have written her on the spot, but have her the benefit of a doubt, followed up on the stop, found she lied, and acted accordingly.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
5. They just gotta get that money
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 01:45 PM
Aug 2013

My father would have proud had I done that. Police state indeed.


"I was upset," said Mr Cummings. "For someone to lie about their deceased father just to get out of a speeding ticket was pretty upsetting to me as a person,” he told ABC News.

Poor baby was upset.

What a dick.

Orrex

(63,169 posts)
15. She was speeding with a suspended registration
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 03:07 PM
Aug 2013

The cop performed due diligence and caught her in her lie. The search that he performed is no more creepy than a stoplight camera tracking you down by your license plate to mail you a ticket.


I have no problem with what the cop did in this case.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
33. you're kidding. she's the piece of shit. I have no problem with what the cop did
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 08:04 PM
Aug 2013

I hope the asshole woman gets a hefty fine. fuck her.

and this has jackshit to do with a police state.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
6. He gave her the benefit of the doubt and let her go.
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 01:47 PM
Aug 2013

Then, he checked her story out. That seems more than fair. When he showed her the obituary, she lied again. Fuck her.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
7. What a horrible thing for her to do!
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 01:53 PM
Aug 2013
Why make up a huge, elaborate lie. Just take your damn speeding ticket, and move on.

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
8. Dumbass driver.
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 01:58 PM
Aug 2013

Speeding with an invalid registration and then lying about your dead father when getting caught - this one is not too bright, is she? I will admit that the cop looking her up later is a bit creepy, though.

onenote

(42,531 posts)
30. I missed the part where she was charged with lying
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 04:06 PM
Aug 2013

She was charged with speeding and driving with a suspended license. And good for the cop who checked out her story.

Tikki

(14,549 posts)
19. That police officer should be a detective on the force. Sometime the police need to follow up...
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 03:27 PM
Aug 2013

..ask anyone who has reported suspicious behavior or stalking.


Tikki

npk

(3,660 posts)
20. The woman got what she deserved
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 03:27 PM
Aug 2013

I'm not saying I would've arrested her necessarily, but I damn sure would given her the original ticket. People are quick to attack cops for lying, so people need to be honest with their dealings with cops as well.

petronius

(26,595 posts)
24. Good for him - she tried a stunt, and failed, and was probably
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 03:45 PM
Aug 2013

gloating to her friends about how she fooled a traffic cop. I hope the cop isn't more cynical next time he stops a person who is really racing to an emergency, but I have no problem at all with him checking up.

And while I'm biased due to personal experience, and this is a purely Fristian analysis, a significant and well-publicized slap-down may be good for her. People that get in the habit of lying glibly through life do a lot of damage (to themselves as well as others)...

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
25. Thanks to this asshole woman
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 03:50 PM
Aug 2013

the next person legitimately speeding because of an emergency is going to get nailed by this cop - no excuses, no understanding, no anything. Along with all his buddies who heard the story. I'm personally pleased that she got what was coming to her. Her type of stupidity only hurts other people.

apples and oranges

(1,451 posts)
31. I'm floored by the amount of people siding with the cop
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 08:00 PM
Aug 2013

Forget the woman's actions, the point here is that a cop googled a citizen after a traffic stop. What if he found that she was telling the truth about her dad, but he also found a post she made on a forum about doing drugs? Would he be justified in returning to arrest her on drug charges?

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
35. I'm floored that anyone would side with the piece of shit woman who lied to get out of a ticket
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 08:06 PM
Aug 2013

and who was driving in violation of the law to begin with. There is nothing wrong with what the cop did and no could possibly be dumb enough to think this was evidence of a police state.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
37. If you post in an open forum using your real name about doing drugs
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 08:11 PM
Aug 2013

You deserve the jail time just for being stupid.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with an officer doing investigative work. In fact it is a good thing. He had a chance to write the ticket at the stop. He found there might be a case for leniency so he held off, did some good old fashioned detective work, determined the tickets were in fact justified, and issued them.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
39. He could not arrest her
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 08:19 PM
Aug 2013

on drug charges, even if there was a photo of her smoking crack. That is not enough evidence to prosecute. It is in the public domain however, so if the cop found further evidence of illegal drug use, then the internet evidence would come into play.

Are you unaware that police investigate people suspected of breaking laws?

dembotoz

(16,784 posts)
38. same thing happened to me about 25 years ago
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 08:16 PM
Aug 2013

my wife was in icu and the hospital called after i had left there and suggested i might want to hurry back because she was not doing well.
got back in the car and started on my way.

got pulled over.

explained to the cop and he went back to his car.
he checked out my story and then returned saying he would pray for us and that i should drive safely

she pulled thru that night and was with me and her newborn son for another couple of years.

the icu was happy i did not get the ticket.....

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