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Veteran civil rights leader: Snowden acted in tradition of civil disobedience
John Lewis, the man Obama called the 'conscience of the US Congress', said whistleblower could lay claim to 'higher law'
Paul Lewis in Washington
theguardian.com, Wednesday 7 August 2013 17.29 BST
'Since I've been in Congress, I've been arrested four times. Sometimes you have to act by the dictates of your conscience.' Photograph: Reuters
John Lewis, one of America's most revered civil rights leaders, says the NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden was continuing the tradition of civil disobedience by revealing details of classified US surveillance programs.
Lewis, a 73-year-old congressman and the last surviving lieutenant of Martin Luther King, said Snowden could claim he was appealing to "a higher law" when he disclosed top secret documents showing the extent of NSA surveillance of both Americans and foreigners.
Asked in interview with the Guardian whether Snowden was engaged in an act of civil disobedience, Lewis nodded and replied: "In keeping with the philosophy and the discipline of non-violence, in keeping with the teaching of Henry David Thoreau and people like Gandhi and others, if you believe something that is not right, something is unjust, and you are willing to defy customs, traditions, bad laws, then you have a conscience. You have a right to defy those laws and be willing to pay the price."
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John Lewis (right) and the leaders of the Freedom Riders: Ralph Abernathy and Martin Luther King Jr, in Montgomery, Alabama, May 1961. Photograph: Corbis
When it was pointed out to Lewis that many in Washington believed that Snowden was simply a criminal, he replied: "Some people say criminality or treason or whatever. He could say he was acting because he was appealing to a higher law. Many of us have some real, real, problems with how the government has been spying on people."
He added: "We had that problem during the height of the civil rights movement. People spied on, and got information on Martin Luther King junior, and tried to use it against him, on the movement, tried to plant people within different organisations that probably led to the destruction of some of those groups."
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/07/john-lewis-civil-rights-edward-snowden
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MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)Capt Obvious posted a similar thread (Civil Rights Icon John Lewis: Snowdens Actions In Line With Gandhi, Thoreau), I was hoping it would have it.
The voices are only getting louder now
G_j
(40,366 posts)ProSense
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When it was pointed out to Lewis that many in Washington believed that Snowden was simply a criminal, he replied: "Some people say criminality or treason or whatever. He could say he was acting because he was appealing to a higher law. Many of us have some real, real, problems with how the government has been spying on people."
He added: "We had that problem during the height of the civil rights movement. People spied on, and got information on Martin Luther King junior, and tried to use it against him, on the movement, tried to plant people within different organisations that probably led to the destruction of some of those groups."
...Snowden isn't "willing to pay the price."
Unlike Lewis and others, he fled.
Still, I'd love to see a transcript of the interview.
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)He has lost his ability to travel freely, his SO, his family, and his job. That is a huge price especially for such a young man. It seems the great Mr. Lewis concurs.
randome
(34,845 posts)He has no friends, barely made it through high school. His behavior, to me, is that of someone who long ago lost faith in himself.
Don't you wonder why he never mentions his SO or his family? I think much of his behavior has been self-destructive.
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progressoid
(49,933 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)My comment was specifically about paying the price.
progressoid
(49,933 posts)Then why make the comparison to Lewis' and others' apparent willingness to be incarcerated?
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)quinnox
(20,600 posts)Meanwhile, on the other side, we have folks like Dick Cheney and former Bush stooges calling Snowden a traitor.
I know what side I'm on.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Great stuff!