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Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 04:21 PM Aug 2013

Ha I was just suggested a minimum gross income during my student loan exit counseling...








So when I go out job hunting after I graduate, can I get a signed letter from the government demanding that potential employers pay me over said fixed amount?
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Ha I was just suggested a minimum gross income during my student loan exit counseling... (Original Post) Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 OP
LOL, you might be onto something there. millennialmax Aug 2013 #1
I don't know what your degree is in but.... Bay Boy Aug 2013 #2
Expect? ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2013 #3
Why go to the trouble and expense of... Bay Boy Aug 2013 #8
I was talking about expected income. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2013 #11
Because I'm trying to build a better human and not a bigger bank account? TalkingDog Aug 2013 #13
BS (Prelaw) Political Science. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #6
Good luck topping that straight out of just about any undergraduate program. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2013 #15
You needn't pay more than 10% of your income above basic living allowance frazzled Aug 2013 #4
Wait until you get old and retirement planners tell you how much you should have saved Warpy Aug 2013 #5
You think inflation is a concept not covered? Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #9
Not as something that applies to PAY Warpy Aug 2013 #21
Because PAY is some different type of money than capital? Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #22
JAYSUS what a scam Skittles Aug 2013 #7
We really do live in the most backward 'advanced' country on earth. reformist2 Aug 2013 #10
It really shouldn't be a problem PsychoBunny Aug 2013 #12
They do this if you buy a car. They call it loan qualification. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #14
Apples and oranges. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #16
True enough. Student loan borrowers have no idea if they'll be able to repay it. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #17
Students shouldn't be denied funding. Everyone should be allowed to attend college... Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #18
Everyone IS allowed to attend college. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #19
Students ARE NOT being allowed to attend college because of financial barriers to entry. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #20
My son wants to stay in our rural hometown madville Aug 2013 #23
 

millennialmax

(331 posts)
1. LOL, you might be onto something there.
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 04:24 PM
Aug 2013

You should attach that to your resume or print it out on business card paper to hand out during interviews.

Bay Boy

(1,689 posts)
2. I don't know what your degree is in but....
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 04:24 PM
Aug 2013

....I hope you expect to get a lot more than that starting out.

Bay Boy

(1,689 posts)
8. Why go to the trouble and expense of...
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 04:45 PM
Aug 2013

... getting a degree and not expect to get a job when you are done? I certainly hope that the OP has chosen a field that is expected to be hiring.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
11. I was talking about expected income.
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 04:54 PM
Aug 2013

The starting teachers salary in my state in my state is about 31k. Luckily people still go to school to be teachers.

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
13. Because I'm trying to build a better human and not a bigger bank account?
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 05:11 PM
Aug 2013

Self improvement for mere money? You must not think much of yourself.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
4. You needn't pay more than 10% of your income above basic living allowance
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 04:29 PM
Aug 2013

You (and your counselor) should know about new laws.

To ensure that Americans can afford their student loan payments, the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act gives student borrowers new choices in how they repay their loans. The initiative was developed by the Middle Class Task Force chaired by Vice President Biden, and it will expand the income-based repayment plan for federal student loans that was put in place last summer. More than 1.2 million borrowers are projected to qualify and take part in the expanded IBR program.

Under this new law, students enrolling in 2014 or later can choose to:

Limit Payments to 10 Percent of Income: Borrowers choosing the income-based repayment plan will pay no more than 10 percent of their income above a basic living allowance, reduced from 15 percent under current law. The basic living allowance varies with family size and is set at 150 percent of the poverty line, currently equaling about $16,500 for a single individual and $33,000 for a family of four.
More than 1 million borrowers would be eligible to reduce their monthly payments.
The payment will be reduced by more than $110 per month for a single borrower who earns $30,000 a year and owes $20,000 in college loans, based on 2009 figures.

Forgive Any Remaining Debt after 20 Years, or after 10 Years for Those in Public Service: Borrowers who take responsibility for their loans and make their monthly payments will see their remaining balance forgiven after 20 years of payments, reduced from 25 years in current law.
Public service workers – such as teachers, nurses, and those in military service – will see any remaining debt forgiven after 10 years.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/education/higher-education/ensuring-that-student-loans-are-affordable

Warpy

(111,252 posts)
5. Wait until you get old and retirement planners tell you how much you should have saved
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 04:29 PM
Aug 2013

every year since you turned 20. According to them, I should have saved $2000/year every year. What they don't ever realize is the inflation this country has been through in that period of time. When I was 20, I took home less than their magical $2000/year and I was working full time at a job that demanded skill.

Honestly, I think a requirement for a business major is that you check your brains at the doorway on your way in and you don't get them back when you leave. It's either that or one can go through many years of business and management education and never be introduced to the concept of inflation and how to index things to it.

 

Bunnahabhain

(857 posts)
9. You think inflation is a concept not covered?
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 04:48 PM
Aug 2013

I mean, seems to me, the time value of money was something drilled into my head starting in basic finance.

 

Bunnahabhain

(857 posts)
22. Because PAY is some different type of money than capital?
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 07:07 PM
Aug 2013

I do not think so. NPV determines what the relationship of a dollar today will be to a dollar in the future. Inflation assumptions are used in determining what this as one is trying to determine the real rate of return vs. the nominal rate of return. Trust me people in b-school understand inflation...better than you I am thinking.

 

PsychoBunny

(86 posts)
12. It really shouldn't be a problem
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 05:02 PM
Aug 2013

if your degree is in Petroleum Engineering.

Political Science? Yeah, good luck with that.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
14. They do this if you buy a car. They call it loan qualification.
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 05:44 PM
Aug 2013

It seems eminently reasonable to counsel borrowers about the realities of repaying the debt.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
16. Apples and oranges.
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 05:57 PM
Aug 2013

If you're financing a car, you need to already have income.

The counseling portion involves explaining the loan and repayment. The people at the Dodge dealership don't sit you down and say "Okay, in order to afford this car, you must go out and make sure to find a job making X income."

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
17. True enough. Student loan borrowers have no idea if they'll be able to repay it.
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 06:06 PM
Aug 2013

It's a good thing. They're asking incoming freshmen to think hard about their prospects of repaying the debt because there's no credit department who will apply that discipline (denial of credit) externally.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
19. Everyone IS allowed to attend college.
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 06:16 PM
Aug 2013

But only the student is obliged to pay for it, and bankruptcy doesn't get them off the hook.

Better pick an area of study carefully. It's about time that colleges are doing their part to explain things to kids.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
20. Students ARE NOT being allowed to attend college because of financial barriers to entry.
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 06:21 PM
Aug 2013

Going to college shouldn't be about going into a well paying field. If that is your only concern, you're living foolishly.

madville

(7,408 posts)
23. My son wants to stay in our rural hometown
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 07:11 PM
Aug 2013

I'm advising him to go to technical school, maybe HVAC since we are in Florida. People I know in that trade make decent money. I've suggested the Coast Guard or Air Force since they pay decent these days and get free college but he doesn't want to leave this area, that could change though.

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