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William769

(55,145 posts)
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 10:02 AM Aug 2013

Haunting lesson of Nazi Olympics

CNN) -- Usually when we talk about the 1936 Olympics in Berlin we focus on two men -- Adolf Hitler and Jesse Owens -- and rightfully so. They are the two with an undeniable impact on history, albeit in vastly different ways.

But in light of President Barack Obama's recent remarks on "The Tonight Show" denouncing Russia's new anti-gay laws, laws that have led to bloodshed in the streets, it is important that we remember Marty Glickman and Sam Stoller.

They too were at those games. They too left a mark.

You see, the day before they were scheduled to run in the 400-meter relay, their coach, Dean Cromwell, replaced them.

They were not injured.

They did not break any team rules nor were they disqualified for any violations.

They were, however, Jewish, and this was Nazi Germany, which had adopted the Nuremberg laws limiting Jewish citizens' rights a year earlier. Apparently, Cromwell, along with leaders from the U.S. Olympic Committee, decided it would be best if Glickman and Stoller did not compete.

At the time I'm sure it seemed like a decision that would only hurt the two men. After all, the 400, led by Owens, still won gold.

Today we know better.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/07/opinion/granderson-anti-gay-russian-olympics/index.html?hpt=hp_t4

It just boggles the mind of the people that don't care what happens at the 2014 Olympics. Shame on them. Shame, shame, shame.

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Haunting lesson of Nazi Olympics (Original Post) William769 Aug 2013 OP
That's an interesting piece el_bryanto Aug 2013 #1
At least President Obama talked about it. William769 Aug 2013 #3
There's a name you should not forget malaise Aug 2013 #2
Let's not forget those who 'live there' either JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #4
It's those who live there that I am most concerned with. William769 Aug 2013 #5
Isn't most sport homo-erotic? dickthegrouch Aug 2013 #6
Appearently not if your Russian. William769 Aug 2013 #7
Nazi Olympics II, Winter 2014 MNBrewer Aug 2013 #8
k&r Behind the Aegis Aug 2013 #9

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
1. That's an interesting piece
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 10:06 AM
Aug 2013

Well worth thinking about. I don't pay a lot of attention to the Olympics, but certainly they should be available for all to compete without fear of repression. I don't know if a boycott is the best strategy; perhaps the Administration is trying to push Moscow without a confrontation?

But then again, it seems likely they are more upset about the Snowden matter than about Russian harrassment of gays.

Bryant

JustAnotherGen

(31,816 posts)
4. Let's not forget those who 'live there' either
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 10:15 AM
Aug 2013

No discussion about 1936 should occur without acknowledging that like Hitler - Vlad might throw out a few 'tokens' of appeasement . . . Margaret Bergmann-Lambert. <---Her story is very interesting and sad.

dickthegrouch

(3,172 posts)
6. Isn't most sport homo-erotic?
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 11:53 AM
Aug 2013

Most sports are uni-sex ostensibly to even out the different physiologies involved. However there's an enormous amount of butt slapping, hugging, kissing, tweaking etc., etc. all of which is very homo-erotic. I say just ramp that up a notch during the olympics and confound the russians with an overwhelming number of ambiguous situations to deal with.

During anti-Prop 8 campaigning I had a T-shirt with two rainbows bordering the words "Support all Marriages".

Next Year's Soichi T-shirt should be the usual rainbow-colored Olympic rings with "Support all Athletes" inside.

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