So why would anyone who opposes abortion also oppose contraception?

[Playinghardball]

[Skittles]

1. because what they really oppose is WOMEN

[Egalitarian Thug]

14. More specifically, they oppose free women. When woman have the freedom to choose,

they often choose to do things these oppressive authoritarians don't like.

[TalkingDog]

27. What Skittles said. n/t

[Nye Bevan]

2. I have always said that ardent opponents of abortion should want condoms handed out like candy.

Every Catholic church should have free condom machines. If life begins at conception, and a condom prevents conception, what is the problem?

Oh, and they will also prevent people from suffering and dying due to STDs. Surely God has no issue with that?

[geckosfeet]

5. They do have problem with that. The Catholic church wants catholic babies. Period.

[applegrove]

3. Cause they want white women to have more babies.

[TheMastersNemesis]

4. The Fundy Nuts Equate Contraception With Abortion.

The Catholic Church teaches that you cannot interfere with sperm or egg in any fashion either artificially, chemically or mechanically. The fundies largely buy into that idea.

The Church unofficially says you cannot have sex unless you intend to get pregnant. In the most extreme view you cannot have sex unless you are ovulating. When that can be determined down to the minute I am sure the Catholic Church will forbid sex until the second of ovulation.

The Church teaches you have to have ALL THE CHILDREN you are capable of.

[Just Saying]

11. This ^^

Catholics are big in the pro-life movement and their religion teaches that any interference in conception is wrong.

I've known people who used the rhythm method ie not having sex when likely to conceive. They have many children.

[TheMastersNemesis]

15. I Spent 16 1/2 Years In Catholic Schools And

I realized at 23 that I could not remain mentally sound and emotionally healthy believing that SHIT and that is what it is. the whole "mackeral snapping" schtick is that you have to treat yourself badly, deny yourself every comfort in preparation for the "afterlife" in heaven. So you have to be down on yourself, be neurotic and fearful every single second.

It is all bullshit made up by some neurotic bunch of celibate monks over 1000 years ago.

[greymattermom]

6. Because

they think sex is icky. Yukky. But, they can't stop thinking about it.

[MadrasT]

7. Because they think of women as nothing more than breeding stock. n/t

[Dawson Leery]

8. Women are to only have sex for the purpose of reproduction.

However, men can screw around all they want. If a women gets pregnant, it's her responsibility only.

[msanthrope]

9. Monty Python answered this years ago....

http://m.

&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DfUspLVStPbk

[Arkansas Granny]

10. Because it all boils down to having control over women and keeping them in their place, which

is submissive to the wishes of men. They try to dress it up as being concerned about a woman's health and safety and blah, blah, blah, but it's all about retaining male dominance.

[Squinch]

24. ^^^This^^^

And the reason is the same reason why their Middle Eastern brothers like to cut out women's clitorises without anesthesia.

[Politicalboi]

12. The GOP prefers to do it one by one

With their 2nd Amendment rights. Ask Dr. Tiller, Oh wait...

If we give the kiddies condoms, then we condone their sexual activities.

Besides, my teenage children don't know about sex, and don't do it.

They know God and Jesus, and know they made a promise to us they wouldn't have sex. Besides, why should we pay for some whores contraception? Rush is right.

Here's the latest town hall meeting.

[2naSalit]

13. Because they are

scared of women who have the power to bear children so, of course, they must be punished for having that power. Aside from that, it is convenient to control them and keep them from having any other power, not counting the power to entice men sexually because, as we all know, men can't be expected to control themselves or their sex drive...

[NCTraveler]

16. Because it is about owning women. nt.

[DinahMoeHum]

17. They want women to be like rabbits (nudge nudge)

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

18. Because pregnancy is how women must be punished for having sex.

[liberal_at_heart]

29. I've caught my own father saying that very thing. That there are no consequences for having sex

anymore.

[libodem]

19. Everyone answering this is getting it right

It is control and oppression. Pleasure is sinful in the eyes of the church. It can be addictive even. Physical enjoyment is down on the low rung of a spiritual agenda.

Sometimes with enough deprivation of the more base instincts it enlightens the mind and causes emotional equanimity, where you no longer feel sad about not having sex. You can boost up to the spiritual plane and start thriving in that Christ-like unconditional love and acceptance. I think that priests and nuns are supposed to pray until it passes. And live in some spiritual dreamworld of purity and saintly-ness.

So 'decent' girls and women are supposed to ignore the strong drive to kiss, cuddle, snuggle, and find physical comfort and pleasure in coitus.

I think the churches just expect if you are elevated enough you can simply surpass you desire and expectations and be like Buddha of Jesus.

[PD Turk]

20. A personal observation

Growing up and living in rural Oklahoma all my life, I have been surrounded by these people. I've developed a theory based on my observations. It's because they're miserable. The people I know that rail against abortion are the same people that piss and moan to have the local bar shut down. They're the same people that had a fit when we tried to build some small skate parks for the kids is some the rural communities around here. They're the same people that called the county deputies out when I had a barn party and brought my best friend's band down out of Tulsa and iced down some kegs, even though they were way too far away to have been bothered by it, they knew it was going on and just HAD to stop it.

In short, they are people who lead lives of misery and monotony in sackcloth and ashes and gawd forbid somebody, somewhere is actually having a good time. If they find out somebody might actually be having some fun, they will do everything they can to try and fuck it up. I don't believe for a minute that the majority of these people really give a damn about the unborn "babies" they are supposedly trying to protect. They are just miserable people trying to make everybody else miserable and they believe they have a righteous reason that gives them a "big stick" to use.

Just my .02

[LWolf]

21. It's about keeping women in their place.

That's the bottom line.

It's the foundation underneath every other argument.

Some of those arguments are about whether birth control prevents conception, or prevents implantation after conception. They'll argue the details until the second coming or human extinction, because it keeps that bottom line under the surface.

[Booster]

22. In one word - CONTROL

[kestrel91316]

23. Because what they are REALLY about is using unwanted children and the financial burden they can

pose to be punishment for women spreading their legs.

You didn't know this? It's been glaringly obvious for years, lol.

[liberal_at_heart]

25. because they want to control when women have sex and when they have babies.

Birth control gives women that control, and republicans can't stand when women have control over their own reproductive rights or have any say in their marriages or careers.

[MineralMan]

26. I'm thinking Fetal Alcohol Syndrome.

That could explain it, or just poor genetics.

[PADemD]

28. Because women giving up unwanted babies is another way to make a profit.

How much does adoption cost nowadays?

[1awake]

32. Because in their eyes,

1) Not all contraception is equal. They classify some as the same thing as abortion.
2) Promoting contraception is the same thing as promoting immoral behavior, specifically to the young.
3) Sex for pleasure alone does not jive with their interpretations of the bible/koran... etc.


I'm sure there's more, but these are the main three. Personally, I think most of this is a bunch of hogwash (I say most only because there are forms of contraception that I dislike.. not because I agree with ANY of their arguments).