Whoa - Leah Remini files missing person report on Scientology head's wife.

[Sheldon Cooper]

She just opened up a can of whoop-ass on the Scientology whacks. She is very brave - I understand they can be vicious toward their enemies.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2386970/Leah-Remini-files-missing-persons-report-Scientology-leaders-wife-seen-public-years.html

The Church of Scientology is facing an investigation by the LAPD into the whereabouts of its leader David Miscavige's wife, Shelly, after actress and former member Leah Remini filed a missing persons report.

The controversial and notoriously secretive church could go through the embarrassment of its inner workings being probed as police search for Mrs Miscavige, who has not been seen in public for over six years.

The King of Queens star had a very public break with the Church of Scientology last month partly fueled by her own personal inquiry into Shelly Miscavige's whereabouts after she was rebuked for asking at Tom Cruise's 2006 wedding.

Although the Church of Scientology have vehemently denied that Shelly Miscavige is 'missing' in any way, this new revelation ensures that they are now bound to face a whole new level of public and legal scutiny and pressure to produce her.

[sharp_stick]

1. It will be interesting to see

if that whackjob Miscavige will actually produce her now.

I think we'll know pretty quickly if there is something amiss, the easiest way for the cult to end this is roll out the lil' misus for the cameras.

[tanyev]

2. Woof.

My respect for Leah Remini has risen immensely in recent days.

[Heather MC]

29. Don't mess with Brooklyn

[Blue Owl]

3. You go girl!

[Skittles]

4. I am very much digging her courage

go Leah!!!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

10. +1

[MADem]

87. I think she has a feeling that someone will be digging up a corpse, and that's why she spoke up.

If she's right, this could be the end of that tax exemption disguised as a church...and Katie Holmes will be regarded as a sage!!!

[itsrobert]

101. Aren't most churches scams for tax exemptions

and scam suckers out of their money?

[MADem]

137. I don't know. Are they? nt

[FiveGoodMen]

5. Hmmmmm...

This should be interesting.

[Bluenorthwest]

6. Leah is not to be trifled with.

I'm extremely proud of her.

[kimbutgar]

7. She is brave

The cult of Scientology will harass her wherever she goes.

[Snake Plissken]

8. Why is this crime syndicate still even in business?

I guess there is no shortage of people too stupid to be allowed to keep their money.

[TroglodyteScholar]

20. Yep

And some people get dumber the more riches they amass.

[UTUSN]

9. Go, Carrie, GO!1 n/t

[Hell Hath No Fury]

11. That took serious ovaries --

She was already going to suffer for her break with the "church", this is going to ratchet is up to Defcon 5. They have decades of material from sessions to pull from to attack her with. They can go after any family that remains inside. They can hit with lawsuits (a favorite tactic).

Well, it looks like we'll finally find out what happened to Shelly Miscavige.

[Faygo Kid]

12. Scary folks. Good luck.

Sherry may be "gone." Leah needs to shout from the rooftops so the media doesn't let her disappear.

[KamaAina]

13. Best non-Daily Fail source is

the Hollywood Reporter.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/leah-remini-files-missing-person-602723

[Jackpine Radical]

14. A question I've always had about scientology--

What's the draw? What hooks people into the whole nutzo thing?

People who otherwise seem intelligent and sane keep ending up in this cult that was deliberately invented as a scam by L. Ron Hubbard, a pulp science fiction writer. I really don't get it.

[SunSeeker]

15. I don't get it either.

When I hear someone is a scientologist, I feel the same way that the characters in that old movie, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, did when they realized their neighbor is no longer their neighbor, but is now one of the pod people.

So glad Remini was able to snap out of it. This investigation should get really interesting....

[longship]

16. Well, people give all their money to Bennie Hinn, too.

Scientology has a gimmick similar to Hinn. People go to Hinn for faith healing. L. "Drunkard" Hubbard came up with a new scam, psychological healing framed as a science fiction based religious cult.

Their denial of psychiatry is their main ploy because they claim to have the only true cure. Of course, it's all because of Xenu.

Where the hell is the funny-haired aliens guy when we need him?

[leftstreet]

18. ...

[7962]

89. I think its more the fact that several celebrities are involved

So many people are obsessed with whatever they do, they probably think if they join they can get closer to "tom" and Kirstie" and whoever.
Now, why the clebs get involved, who the hell knows.

But bennie Hinn was at least telling people he'd "help" you get to God; as opposed to a spaceship

[Posteritatis]

22. They try pretty hard to conceal the nutso aspects from newbies

Someone approaching Scientology blind would get the image of earnest, gentle people who Really Want To Help and have had a lot of practice getting people to understand themselves in order to work around/past bad habits and thought patterns.

People have to sink quite a bit of cost into it before they get access to the brain aliens and ancient interstellar propeller planes and whatnot, at which point they're either (1) quite brainwashed or (2) too invested in the system to comfortably leave it.

[d_r]

53. didn't they see the disclaimer?

[dorkzilla]

28. Good question!

I'm at a loss too! In around 81-82 I was on vaca in Clearwater, and a fella I'd met a few days earlier and I were walking on the beach one evening when one of their minions walked up to us and tried engaging us in a conversation...which promptly ended when she said, spying the camera around my friend's neck "I'll give you both a brand new Nikon camera if you'll just take one evening-you can stay in our hotel for free-to hear what we have to say." We just looked at each other, and my friend said "go the fuck away".

If that's their schtick I have no idea how anyone could fall for it. And we were TEENAGERS.

[Starry Messenger]

34. It's a slow process, and is dressed up to sound scientific.

They call it tech and suck people into thinking that it's been tested and works.

After a few years you've spent so much money on it that to not believe would be damaging. Only an idiot would spend $100k on shit right? So you'll keep believing. There's a term for that, but I forget what it is.

[EOTE]

36. Come with me for an audit and you might just find out.

I'm guessing it's your abnormal thetan level that's causing you to pose such a question in the first place.

[Jackpine Radical]

37. Yes…I…am…following…

[tinrobot]

39. They find people in need and fill that need.

You're a down on your luck writer or actor, feeling horrible about your chances in Hollywood. You take a class, just to see, and it's not all that weird. They help you feel better about yourself, pump you up, make you feel like less of a loser.

Maybe you take another class. Maybe they get another Scientologist to toss you a few gigs. "See, it works!" they exclaim, and now you're on the hook and it starts to get weirder and weirder.

Later, they have you confess every deep dark secret to them while on the e-meter. Now they got the dirt on you and can use it to blackmail you... and you're in for life...

[Quantess]

97. I was lured in to the office to take the personality test when I was 17 or 18.

I sat there and answered all the questions. The guy took the questionnaire and told me to wait for the results. I got a weird feeling, got up and left, without saying goodbye.

[calimary]

104. Man! I got lured in, too, when I was that age.

They showed us a video by their then-marquee name, actor Steven Boyd.

It sounded interesting and pretty harmless for about three or four minutes. Then I started getting the creeps.

I got the hell outta there when they tried to make me sign a "promissory note" to pay them $35.

[arikara]

128. My friend and I were traveling through LA

a couple small town kids in our early 20's, and got roped into that. We got up to leave too and the guy used some voice on us, ordering us to sit back down so we slunk back to our chairs. Then when he turned his back we ran out the door like the bats of hell were after us. There were about 2 dozen other people in the room waiting too, some of them snickered a bit when we ran but nobody else left. Later we were quite embarrassed about sneaking and running instead of ignoring the creep and walking out. No matter how we did it though, we got away.

[siligut]

127. Succinct explanation

And why famous Scientologists are generally less talented than their non-member counterparts. Same thing goes for Mormons.

[jberryhill]

51. All of these people are wrong!

I will explain it to you for $50.

Send me a PM and I will give you payment instructions.

[red dog 1]

108. Do you accept Monopoly money?

[jberryhill]

111. Yes

But I do charge a US$50 "convenience fee" for taking Monopoly money.

Canadian Tire coupons are taken at half face value.

[TheDebbieDee]

52. I don't think Scientology is any crazier than any other religion....it's just a lot newer.

Newer than Mormonism, which is newer than Protestants, which is newer than Islam, which is newer than Catholicism, which is newer than Judaism. The thing that they all have in common, as far as I am concerned, is that their doctrines sound FANTASTICAL!

[arikara]

130. Do some reading about it

its crazier. Things like they have people sign billion year contracts to basically work as slaves in their "sea org.". If people leave the cult they stalk them relentlessly, and present them with astronomical bills for food and lodging while the person was working for free. Lots more.

[nxylas]

74. If you're in showbiz, you may see it as your route to success

Call me a cynic, but it's not difficult to imagine an actor or actress seeing the stories (true or otherwise) about Scientologists helping each other out in Hollywood, and wanting a piece of that action.

[tblue37]

76. Kinda like the politicians--including some of our Dem stars--who

are so active in that shadowy, powerful, and rather scary prayer group in DC.

[Jackpine Radical]

96. Like Hillary for example…

[derby378]

17. Now THAT'S a way to start clearing your karmic debt, Leah

Stay on them like a bad suit. And if you ever feel the need to get audited again, find a Freezone Scientologist - don't use the official channels.

You have the right to believe in engrams and Tone 40 and Xenu and all that, but not to make a criminal enterprise out of it.

[TroglodyteScholar]

19. Man, she' super gutsy

Hope she comes out the other side if this alright.

[AngryOldDem]

21. She's not been seen for 6 YEARS??

And this has not raised ANY concern? I heard this last week and I was amazed at how matter-of-factly this was reported. The explanation was that she is doing Scientology work "behind the scenes."

Hmm.

Remini is showing a lot of guts by what she's doing. Good on her.

[derby378]

23. Something tells me "behind the scenes" = Rehabilitation Project Force

Scientology's own slave labor movement, where followers are banished if they fall from the leader's graces in one way or another.

[Tom Ripley]

25. +1000

[bettyellen]

50. Or Sea Org?

[derby378]

131. Sea Org actually bred a lot of Scientology's current leaders

I think David Miscavige got his start in the Sea Org, where he served as one of Hubbard's messengers and gradually amassed more and more power since then until he took over the church after Hubbard's death.

[stranger81]

110. Exactly. She IS probably doing Scientology work -- just not on a voluntary basis.

Either that, or in a shallow grave just outside of Hemet.

[Snake Plissken]

27. she is probably suffering from untreated debilitating mental illness, just like L. Ron Hubbard

and so many other Scientologists.

It's not like the cult leader can tell the suckers that Scientology drove his wife insane, just like it drove the cult's founder insane.

[ChazInAz]

114. Let's not forget

The detestable L.Ron disappeared for years before he turned up dead under rather peculiar circumstances. Even then, Miscavige tried to keep up the illusion that he was still alive and active.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

24. just followed her on twitter for moral support

https://twitter.com/LeahRemini

[red dog 1]

105. Good idea..I just did that too....Thanks for the link.

[1ProudAtheist]

26. Scientology

Is just as much of a religion as Islam and Xstianity, and the over 500 others "scams" masquerading as anything other than the cults that lie at the center of each and every one of them. Fear, hatred, intimidation, loathing, and intolerance are the some of the most visible common denominators of these, for profit, exclusionary, cults.

Instead of denouncing those with which you so vehemently disagree, try denouncing ALL of them because they are all the same on the inside.

[Snake Plissken]

30. Im not aware of any other mythology businesses which were solely created to screw people out of cash

Scientology was created strictly to screw people out of as much money as possible,

do any of these other 500 scams force you to pay to pray?

[1ProudAtheist]

32. They All Do

Try becoming a member of one of these cults without having any "skin" in the game. They will show you the door and condemn you for the rest of your life. Each and every one sponsors some kind of deity, each separate one claiming that their deity has the biggest dick. If these deities are so mighty and so powerful, the what in the fuck do they need your money for?

[Snake Plissken]

38. I can walk into any church in the country and indulge in their particular brand of mythology

without spending a dime if I so choose to, you can not do a single thing in Scientology without at the very minimum purchasing a book.

[1ProudAtheist]

42. No Sir

You may not........if you want to become a full fledged member of one of those cults, you MUST PAY. The holy temple of child molestation demands a full 10% of your ENTIRE earnings to become a member. No cults provide a "free ride".

BTW, you failed to answer my question..........why does a "spook from the sky" need money?

[Snake Plissken]

44. You can become a member of almost any church without paying a dime

You can become a member of almost any church without paying a dime unless you choose to. I use to be member of two religions before I wised up, and neither of them required my to pay anything the donations were entirely voluntary. Sure they will try to shake you down for as much donations as they can get out of you, but I've never seen a price list for spirituality like the cult of Scientology has


and to answer your question, the spook from the sky doesn't need any money but a business based on distributing mythology based on this spook from the sky has bills to pay just as any other business.

[Sheldon Cooper]

45. Oh. I see.

You're one of those atheists.

[1ProudAtheist]

48. Yes

I really am an Atheist........you know, someone who refuses to live their lives by the lies and manipulations of others. One of those who aren't afraid to call a spade, a spade. One of those who knows and understands what religion is, and more importantly, what it isn't.

No, I don't go knocking on people's doors and ask them what their personal beliefs are, but choose to get all up in the grill of anyone who has the nerve to ask me what MY personal beliefs are........as if MY personal beliefs are somehow important to ANYONE else. Yes, I AM INDEED "that kind" of Atheist. And, I don't try to spread my beliefs onto others, nor do I ask for money to inform people of the difference between theories and facts.........ie: religion and science. I am one of "those Atheists" who are most likely to "thump" a bible thumper with their own bible. Yes, that is me, to a tee.

[liberal_at_heart]

69. all I can say is I'm glad my children who are atheists are not your kind of atheist.

[Sheldon Cooper]

86. A zealot is a zealot, and all are equally distasteful.

But, carry on. You've certainly impressed everyone in this thread.

[pnwmom]

59. You couldn't be more wrong. The Catholic Church, for example, requires no tithe.

A collection basket gets passed from hand to hand down the pews, and no one checks to see how much you put into it or if you put anything into it.

[msanthrope]

88. Not completely true. When I was growing up, every single parish had an envelope system

with a family's name on them. It was at the discretion of the monsignor, but some parishes recorded the contents of said envelope, some published the top 50 contributing families, some checked to see that the families going to the parish school actually attended church, etc...the 'tithe' was enforced through guilt and shaming, in a most passive-aggressive way.

This has been modified--fewer parishes use the envelopes, and none publish the brag lists anymore. But routine squeezing still happens--my family is well-off, and are routinely solicited. You don't want to know what this atheist told the priest who asked for a donation right after my father's funeral.....

[pnwmom]

100. When you were growing up was some time ago. And even then no one was prevented from

attending Mass because of not using an envelope.

How can you say that "every single parish" had an envelope system? Did you visit every single parish? And even the ones that had them never required people to use them. We had envelopes in my parish, and the vast majority of what was actually in the basket were single dollar bills. This was also true in any parish that we visited on vacation. Single dollar bills and an envelope every once in a while.

By contrast, no one can be a Scientologist without paying heavily for their "courses."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_as_a_business

Several of the Church's practices resemble business operations, including paying recruiters a cut of the money made from the people they attract and the franchising network that results in large revenues for the highest levels of the Church. Such activities distinguish Scientology from other religious organizations. The Church pays 10% commissions to recruiters, called Field Staff Members (FSMs), on new recruits they bring in who take a course or receive counseling.[6][7] In addition, Church of Scientology franchises/missions, pay the Church roughly 10% of their gross income.[8] The Church charges for auditing and other Church-related courses required for advancing through the ranks of Scientology. These programs can run to tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars.[9]

The Scientology Bridge to Total Freedom consists of one half relating to levels of higher states of spiritual existence, and the other half the skills relating to helping another reach that level. Training is described as "50% of the route"[10]
The Religious Technology Center maintains strict control over the use of Scientology symbols, icons, and names. It claims copyright and trademark over the "Scientology cross," and its lawyers have threatened lawsuits against individuals and organizations who have published these protected images without permission in books and on websites.[11] Because of this, it is difficult for individual groups to attempt to practice Scientology publicly without any affiliation or connection to the "official" Church of Scientology. Scientology has sued a number of individuals who attempted to set up their own "auditing" practices, using copyright and trademark law to shut these competitors down.[12]

Writing in Skeptic magazine, Michael Shermer contrasted such practices with mainstream religions: "Envision converting to Judaism but having to pay for courses in order to hear the story of Abraham and Isaac, Noah and the flood, or Moses and the Ten Commandments. Or imagine joining the Catholic Church but not being told about the crucifixion and the resurrection until you have reached Operating Theological Level III, which can only be attained after many years and tens of thousands of dollars in church-run courses."[13]

SNIP

^ Shermer, Michael. "The Real Science behind Scientology". Scientific American 305 (5). Retrieved 16 January 2013. "So did its founder, writer L. Ron Hubbard, just make it all up--as legend has it--to create a religion that was more lucrative than producing science fiction? Instead of printing the legend as fact, I recently interviewed the acclaimed science-fiction author Harlan Ellison, who told me he was at the birth of Scientology. At a meeting in New York City of a sci-fi writers' group called the Hydra Club, Hubbard was complaining to L. Sprague de Camp and the others about writing for a penny a word. "Lester del Rey then said half-jokingly, 'What you really ought to do is create a religion because it will be tax-free,' and at that point everyone in the room started chiming in with ideas for this new religion. So the idea was a Gestalt that Ron caught on to and assimilated the details. He then wrote it up as 'Dianetics: A New Science of the Mind' and sold it to John W. Campbell, Jr., who published it in Astounding Science Fiction in 1950.""

[LongTomH]

129. L. Ron Hubbard wasn't even a good science fiction writer! He was basically a hack!

A friend joked that, he would be happy to join a religion started by someone like Kurt Vonnegut. Of course, Vonnegut was both too smart and too honest to start a religion.

[WCLinolVir]

132. Envelopes were used at the Catholic church I went to as well.

Not saying it was everyone, but if you were a regular, you got one. They also had envelopes in the basket they passed around so you could make a donation more discreetly. And there was a pitch to donate. I was only 6 and I felt the pressure. But you can simply enter a church and attend without having to sign anything or pay anything.

[pnwmom]

138. And you could put whatever you wanted to in the envelope -- nothing like with Scientology. n/t

[kestrel91316]

61. Tell that to the Unitarians, and to most Protestant denominations.

Only the Mormons DEMAND that you tithe, and there are ways to get around that without your local ward/stake finding out, lol.

Tell it to the wiccans/pagans. Tell it to the Buddhists. Etc etc etc.

You are full of baloney. You don't know shit about religion.

[1ProudAtheist]

64. I Know This Much

About religion.......it IS SHIT!

[Dr. Strange]

66. Shit.

Yes, that appears to be exactly what you know about religion.

[pnwmom]

75. +1. n/t

[7962]

91. Boom!

[cordelia]

98. This

[HiPointDem]

78. you don't have to pay anything to attend most churches, and once you attend regularly you

are a defacto member.

[tblue37]

77. Many churches pressure their members to tithe more than they can afford.

When my dad was out of work for two years after retiring from the Air Force and he and Mom had 6 kids to feed, the Episcopalian church his family pressured us to attend used some very high pressure techniques to suck a pledge out of them that they could not afford.

In many churches, when members don't cough up enough money they end up shamed and shunned.

[pnwmom]

102. What other church kicks out members simply for getting too old to work?

One of our in-laws had a mother who left them in the late 70's to join Scientology. After working for them for 30 years, she was in her 80's and too old to do much for them anymore, so they kicked her out. She had no Social security, no retirement, no money at all. Luckily for her, her ex-husband was willing to put a roof over her head.

[7962]

90. Thank you Snake, for pointing that out

to another bitter atheist.

[pnwmom]

57. That's not true. You can go to a Catholic Church for Mass every Sunday in your life and never drop

a dime in the collection basket. No one will show you the door and they'll welcome you back every week.

[xmas74]

73. Methodist too.

We have any number of people attending services on Sunday who can't afford to drop a dime and no one expects it. Same with Wednesday-it's not expected. Of course, if a person can afford to do so some is sent off and some is kept locally. On a local level it keeps the doors open so that the church can work as a free cooling center to the public on hot days, as a storm shelter during warnings, as a place that offers warmth with generators during snow storms, and even just a free hot meal to anyone in need.

Yes. there are plenty of churches that will shake a person down but there are also others that don't even think of it.

[IdaBriggs]

93. This is NOT true. You are mistaking the concept of charitable giving and/or tithing

with "membership fees."

Members of the Muslim faith are asked to give to the poor and needy, as are followers of Christian religions. People who regularly attend services at specific locations frequently donate to cover the costs of the building, but I have *NEVER* been in a facility that asked me to leave if I didn't make a donation.

Anything can be described in a negative or twisted way - I call it the "Jerry Springer Syndrome." Your post demonstrates it by taking a generally benign and generous act - feeding the hungry, or paying the electric bill for a place of worship - and turning it into something nasty. I understand you are an atheist (based on your name), but if you are going to make pronouncements about what the people you scorn are doing, please do so with accuracy instead of ignorance.

[Marrah_G]

65. Oh there are a number of televangelists out there for that sole purpose!

Nothing can separate a fool from their money like a silver tongued preacher.

[tinrobot]

41. It's a spectrum...

Scientology is at the far end of that spectrum.

[1ProudAtheist]

43. Guilt by Association

Is still guilt. Yeah, the holy temple of child molestation does allow for the attitudes that a little bit bad is better than a whole lot of bad, but bad is still bad. They all have the core principles that I laid out........all of them.

[Union Scribe]

54. Lol.

Can't believe it took so long for this post.

Fan of the Albuquerque Isotopes are you?

[pnwmom]

55. Islam and Christianity weren't begun as tax avoidance schemes.

That is how Scientology, the "science of dianetics" somehow became Scientology, the "religion."

[1ProudAtheist]

63. OK, I Got IT

Every other religion is a phony bunch of phooey, but "MY" religion is pure and sacred.

Somebody has been spiking that kool-aide that you been a drinkin'.

They are ALL evil, vile, hateful, exclusionary, and designed to alter your mind while emptying your pockets. There is NO honor among thieves, and they are all just that, THIEVES.

And anyone who would stand up for the holy temple of child molestation.........well, if you believe that little boys were put on this earth to be molested by grown men, I can't help you. And denying it, rationalizing it, or ignoring it, makes you a worse person than the one doing the molesting.

The one thing that may just save this world from eventually destroying itself, would be to destroy all religion ASAP. It is the cause of everything that is wrong in this country, and on this planet. Intolerance will definitely be the downfall of this world. When we are forced to live in a society where religious beliefs determine healthcare, politics, business practices, and warfare, how far from the end can we actually be? Ignoring facts to justify myths has to be the absolute dumbest idea ever concocted.

I do take great hope when I read about the fact that ALL religion is in decline worldwide, and non-belief is the fastest growing personal belief worldwide, that there may be some light at the end of this dark tunnel that religious zealots have steered us through for centuries now. With the public presence of dolts like Rick Santorum and The Wild Alaskan Dingbat, how could anyone possibly line up behind their rediculous causes. Idiots like them are our greatest ambassadors for ditching religion and taking on facts.

[HiPointDem]

79. no one here said any religion was pure & sacred. they said you can be a member of most

churches without paying anything.

your hyperbole & straw men don't help your cause.

[7962]

92. No, but it sure says a lot about him/her!

[IdaBriggs]

94. The reason no one believes you is because your opinions do not coincide with the reality

of experience.

It makes you a non-credible source.

Who should be believed - someone spouting nonsense on an internet discussion forum, or an individual's "lying eyes/ears"?

[EC]

31. Hoping they lose their tax exemption too.

maybe enough info will come out to take them off of the church list.

[bbernardini]

33. I hate to be negative about this, but Leah will be found dead soon.

Scientology is known for killing people who cross them. It's pretty well documented.

[KamaAina]

35. Don't fly in any small planes, Leah

Her celebrity staus may be what keeps her alive. The M$M would find it much harder to ignore her death than, say, that of Lisa McPherson.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Lisa_McPherson

[Incitatus]

46. I wouldn't hesitate to say more dangerous than any mafia organization.

Considering the type of people at the top and the resources they have.

[red dog 1]

112. I don't doubt what you say about Scientology killing people,

but do you have any verifiable sources for this?

L. Ron Hubbard was a hack Sci-Fi writer; and I consider Scientology a bullshit organization; but they shouldn't be getting away with murder.

[TNNurse]

40. Hard to imagine

why anyone joins in the first place. It is apparently very hard to leave. I admire her...she apparently has some serious courage...or maybe guts.

[SummerSnow]

47. She better watch her back.

[Dawson Leery]

49. She better watch herself.

She would be safer taking on the Nostra's.

[burnodo]

56. Leah Remini is a scientologist

she's already starting with a handicap

[Generic Brad]

58. I want to see Shelly Miscavige publicly say she is all right

Having a statement issued by her attorneys is insufficient evidence to prove she is alive and OK.

[adirondacker]

60. Pretty crazy cult. I learned everything I wanted to know about it from South Park...

[AnotherDreamWeaver]

68. Well, that led me to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keHQwdy2NX8 nt

[PowerToThePeople]

62. Holy fuck

I just read the wikipedia on Scientology and gold base. How is this cult still operating? Why are they not shut down and leaders in jail for kidnapping and torture? Don't give me the whole freedom of religion thing because it means freedom from religion as well. Kidnapping and returning escapees is cause for shutdown.

[NickFury]

118. Maybe you shouldn't believe everything you read

A lot of people like to tell lies about Scientology.


Better to read the actual Scientology books and make up your own mind.

[hrmjustin]

119. everyone who leaves it has bad things to say about it.

[cyberswede]

121. You know it's a scam, right?

Do they explain that in the books?

[PowerToThePeople]

123. Hi Nick. How is life at Gold base?

7 years, one post. You have been waiting a long time for this.

[NRaleighLiberal]

124. wow - took you 7 years to work through all of those books....

that's a lot of reading!

[maddezmom]

125. The wiki page is good enough for me

[WCLinolVir]

133. I don't think they will publicly state "we torture and harass".

They really can't put that stuff in writing. Leads to lawsuits.

[Codeine]

139. How can you type while holding on to your E-Meters, Mr. Fury?

[arely staircase]

67. been watching this for a while

will be interesting to see

[Sophiegirl]

70. So NOW she turns up

Reports are that after a missing persons report was submitted, Shelly is, after all, alive and well.....and purportedly so in love with Scientology that she has purposely been MIA for all these years. Pretty conveniently timed, I'd say.

Hmmmmm. Isn't that interesting?

[HiPointDem]

80. yes, but only lapd can see her. no one else. seems a bit odd.

Hours after news broke that the actress had filed a missing person report regarding the whereabouts of the wife of Scientology leader David Miscavige, the LAPD confirms to E! News that the case is now closed.

"The LAPD has classified the report as unfounded, indicating that Shelly is not missing," said Detective Gus Villanueva. He said that he didn't know exactly where or when, but detectives did meet with the Miscaviges as part of their investigation and saw Shelly in person.

http://www.eonline.com/news/447348/leah-remini-s-scientology-mystery-solved-missing-person-case-for-shelly-miscavige-now-closed-per-lapd

One question we asked that we could not get answered ... Did cops determine Shelly was or was not being held against her will?

http://www.tmz.com/2013/08/08/shelly-miscavige-david-miscavige-scientology-leah-remini-missing-persons-lapd/

[oberliner]

71. Leah Remini report that Scientology boss David Miscavige's wife is missing ruled unfounded

Los Angeles Police have ruled as "unfounded" a missing person's report made by actress Leah Remini regarding the wife of Scientology leader David Miscavige, a police source told the Daily News.

“Detectives met with (Michelle) Miscavige in person,” an LAPD source told the News Thursday. "The investigation is completed and classified as unfounded."

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/leah-remini-report-scientology-boss-wife-missing-unfounded-article-1.1421881#ixzz2bSL8Nt7f

[Enrique]

106. they released a picture

she looks a little familiar...

[WCLinolVir]

134. HAHAHAhaaaa!!!!

[KamaAina]

107. So where is she?

That secret compound?

[DeSwiss]

72. These mofos.....

...are a space religion para-military organization and should be treated as such.

- And I don't care what your E-meter tells you, everyone should stay away from these whackaloons, because they actually do whack people.....

K&R
[center]
''But I'm Xenu, The Evil Galactic Overlord who nuked the souls of
humanity over 95,000,000 years ago. But do they mention me? No!''[/center]

[HiPointDem]

81. not the only apparently missing person in the organization either. the supposed #2 man is

also missing? weird stuff.



and others:

http://aidathomas.wordpress.com/2011/07/03/missing-people-in-scientology/

also, shelly miscavige's mom supposedly committed suicide like this:

Michelle ‘Shelly’ Miscavige was Flo Barnett’s daughter. Flo died in 1985, apparently she committed suicide by three shots to the chest and one to the temple from a semi-automatic rifle. Two ‘suicide’ notes were found. The examiner determined Flo shot herself three times in the chest (with a rifle) before shooting herself in the head. However, many consider the suicide ‘suspicious’ because it is hard to believe that she could actually shoot herself in the head with a rifle.

Just before her death she was reported to have had an argument with David Miscavige and threatened to go public and sue the Church of Scientology. Flo, Shelly’s mother had become a member of a declared ‘enemy group’, David Mayo’s Advance Ability Center.

[Drunken Irishman]

83. Heber...I wonder if he was raised Mormon?

That's a Mormon name if I've ever seen one (there is a Heber, Utah ... which was named after Heber Kimball, a leader in the LDS Church).

[HiPointDem]

84. apparently so.

Heber Carl Jentzsch (born November 30, 1935) has served as president of the Church of Scientology International since 1982. He has not been seen publicly since 2004.[2]

Heber Jentzsch grew up in a Mormon family, and identified himself as a "believing Mormon".[3] He is the son of polygamist Carl Jentzsch (who was excommunicated from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints)[4] and Carl's third wife Pauline; Heber has 42 siblings.[5] While Heber Jentzsch was never baptized into The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, his first name was inspired by the Latter-day Saint apostle Heber C. Kimball.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heber_Jentzsch


How does the supposed 'president' of a major organization just disappear & nobody raises any red flag?

completely creepy.

there sure are a lot of odd deaths among the leadership:

On July 2, 2012, Alexander Jentzsch (Heber Jentzsch's son with Karen de la Carriere) died after an accident.

De la Carriere stated that she had not seen Alexander for 2 years, because she was shunned from him after it was revealed she had been criticizing the Church. She also revealed he was suffering from Pneumonia at the time he died, and painkillers had been used to mask his pain, rather than the usual treatment of anti-biotics. Alexander was 27 at the time of his death.

[Drunken Irishman]

85. I found this...

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/07/scientology_david_jentzsch_heber.php

Crazy.

[Tom Ripley]

115. Miscavige reminds me a great deal of Brigham Young...

another unimaginative ruthless goon who inherited a scam originated by a gleeful conman. Smith and Hubbard were both mountebanks, but also geniuses of improvisation. Young and Miscavige are just examples of single-minded power-hungry dullards.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

82. As a Scientologist I'm offended by all this mocking.

As soon as I donate enough money I'm going to transport myself via your broadband lines and give you all a good talking to.

[Capt. Obvious]

95. Are you saying the church is going to be audited?

Zing!

[meegbear]

99. I read "Going Clear: Scientology, Hollywood, and the Prison of Belief" a couple months ago ...

It gives a full history of Scientology and it ain't pretty (and an interesting read). The book covers where people can be sent to a rehabilitation camp for years doing repetitive menial tasks or labors (or punishments); the book writes about how one person was ordered to continually walk in a circle around a pole in the desert until all his teeth fell out.

She may be in one of those camps.

[Tom Ripley]

116. I read it earlier this week, and highly recommend it

[bravenak]

103. Where the heck is this woman?

If I hadn't been seen publicly in 6 years my family would know I'm dead. It's sad that she's the first to file a missing persons report for her friend. I have a horrible feeling that this woman is dead or has been severely harmed. Like that young lady whose father locked her in a secret room for 20 something years.

[oberliner]

113. The LAPD spoke to her

They confirmed she is not missing.

[bravenak]

117. Oh good.

I was turning it into a Lifetime movie in my head.

[ljm2002]

109. Good for her!

You go, girl. I loved you in King of Queens and I admire you for what you are doing now.

K&R

[ConcernedCanuk]

120. From reading the whole thread, I see most have no direct knowledge of Scientologists.

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.
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I do.

I lived in CA all of 1979, and part of 1980.

One of my first dwellings was as a roomer in a house with two Vietnam Vets, both Scientologists.

Not by selection, I also ended dating a girl that was a Scientologist.

And later on dated a girl that was of the Baha'i faith.

Then a few Christians and heathens . . .

Point is - why do members of one religion spend so much time judging other religions/beliefs?

Scientologists, like Christians, Muslims, and many other religious groups have their flaws . .

Was it not Christians who poisoned the natives in North America, forced them into reserves and regulated schools?

Even now the original inhabitants of North America (yes, including Canada) are fighting for a few scraps of land, and the government to stop polluting the land and decimating the wildlife around them.

"In God We Trust"

right.

CC

[Motown_Johnny]

122. The woman has been missing for six years.

You really think that nobody should look into it?

[WCLinolVir]

135. I read their crap, and was BORN in California. I was also raised Catholic.

Does that make me an expert??I think the fact that I read their crap says more than dating people who believed in it. And I married a heathen, godless soul.

[AndyA]

126. I've always thought Leah Remini was a wonderful actress

Hardly ever missed King of Queens, and it was because of her character, not the others. She had the most challenging role--to play it straight with a childish husband and crazy Father living in the basement!

I'm glad she's dumped the Scientology stuff, she seems too smart to fall for that, and she's very courageous for bringing attention to this secretive group that does not like the light of truth shined in their direction.

Continued health and success to Leah!

[Enrique]

136. i think we can all agree

this is one strange story