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A chilling video that shows police officers storming a home in Georgia and threatening to stun-gun, beat, and even âcaneâ the residents is gaining attention for its stark portrayal of what its creators say is police brutality.
âOne officer hit me in the face with his gun and I fell to the floor,â Hall told HuffPost. âAnother officer began kicking me and bending back my arms. They put handcuffs on me and continued to kick and punch me. At that point, an officer with his knee in my back stood up and put both feet on top of my head. He was standing on top of my head.â
âPut cuffs on his big ass!â one officer shouts in the video. âYou open the door when I tell you to open the door.â
The officer continues his tirade, repeatedly threatening to stun-gun both men. âFuck with me if you want to,â the officer says, as both brothers plead with the police, asking why theyâre being arrested.
Article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/08/dekalb-county-cane_n_3727241.html
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msongs
(67,360 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)"hero" because they wear a uniform to work. Silence in the ranks contributes to the abuse.
RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)damnedifIknow
(3,183 posts)Just unreal.
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)We are well and truly fucked.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)I'll keep saying that until it happens.
surrealAmerican
(11,357 posts)Police forces that operate within acceptable limits should welcome such a commission, yet somehow, I doubt they will.
Agony
(2,605 posts)tha police have lost their way... putting it mildly,
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)I will also stand with the highly unpopular view (around here) that I oppose collective bargaining rights for anyone in the position to arrest and charge with a crime.
Norm Stamper made it clear that police unions are part of the problem. Calvin Coolidge and FDR believed the same.
HardTimes99
(2,049 posts)police to bargain collectively, the same as any other group of workers. There is definitely a problem but workers organizing to protect their rights is not the problem.
That said, what is needed imho are both stronger police unions and also much stronger civilian\community supervision and review of same.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)....is "poor" people have the same rights and deserve the same respect as rich people.
They would NEVER even CONSIDER doing this crap to someone in a rich neighborhood.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)Both home owners and deputies are African American.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)hedgehog
(36,286 posts)RebelOne
(30,947 posts)PDJane
(10,103 posts)It's that obedience thing that so many of these people have.
mainer
(12,018 posts)and the picture of police across the nation is ugly. Just plain ugly.
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)at the 13:00+ mark, one of the sheriffs says that 'as a black man y'all just set us back 45 years'
I don't know if I can listen to the end -- this is disgraceful.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,955 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Ms. Toad
(33,992 posts)to arrest a woman for failure to pay a civil fine?
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)jtuck004
(15,882 posts)is all it takes to rot the whole barrel.
ProdigalJunkMail
(12,017 posts)are the most corrupt organizations in GA... this is no surprise to anyone who has ever had to deal with them.
sP
DontTreadOnMe
(2,442 posts)They are not qualified to hold this job. Who is going to take them to court and sue them?
Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)I couldn't watch the full video. Abusive assholes.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)EOTE
(13,409 posts)If anyone else did that, they'd be in jail. But because they're cops, people simply want them to be fired. The reason pigs keep doing this shit is because they know at the very worst they'll get a slap on their wrist.
Mariana
(14,854 posts)"Those cops should be fired!"
You're absolutely correct. Violent criminals should be arrested, vigorously prosecuted, and imprisoned if found guilty, even if they happen to be police officers. And any "good cops" who observe such behavior from their colleagues should arrest them on the spot.
Mariana
(14,854 posts)You think they should be fired and sued? They committed felonies on this video. The problem here isn't that they are not qualified to hold this job. The problem here is that these cops are violent criminals.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)As I replied in another thread, I hope these cops are suspended, investigated, fired.
Disgusting!
Phentex
(16,330 posts)but I do wonder if anything will be done about it. OTHER than a stupid apology.
proReality
(1,628 posts)Now people are guilty of living at the wrong address while black? Jesus H. Murphy!
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)because they had done nothing criminally wrong and they did not expect the LEOs to show up in force to serve a civil warrant after midnight.
The civil warrant wasn't for them but reportedly was for their mother who owed $1,000.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)serving a civil warrant after midnight? Could it not wait until a normal time of day when it won't scare the hell out of everyone in the home?
It's not like Bonnie and Clyde were hiding out in there, they were there over a measly grand in fines. Maybe if they had knocked on the door, said what they were there for and produced the required warrant in a civil manner, they might have got a different reaction.
We need to teach the LEOs in this country to approach our homes with respect and treat us with respect and dignity. They are way out of hand, over the top hostile, aggressive and violent. When they approach us in such a manner, they shouldn't be shocked when we respond in kind.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)After midnight, the donut shops might be closed.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)Although it happened to my family, its a microcosm of the world, Griffin said. What about the other countless families who feel powerless against this kind of tyranny? Who is championing their cause? This is a problem.
southmost
(759 posts)plain and simple, if you dont answer the door when the police come knocking,
they will knock the door off it hinges, and then arrest you for not answering
the bogus arrest charges wont stick, but hey they get to knock your door down, and you get to spend the night in jail...
the system has been bad for a long time, this is nothing new
Th1onein
(8,514 posts)I wasn't dressed; just had a sheet wrapped around me. They came too early and I had not had my morning coffee yet. Plainclothes, plain car, and knocked on my door. I was NOT nice.
I didn't open the door, just pulled the blinds up on it and asked what they wanted. Guy wasn't even dressed like a cop. Asking for my daughter and when I told him she didn't live there, he said he needed to see MY ID. I told him to get the fuck off of my property.
The idiot kept on, and finally I called 911 and told them some nut was on my porch, saying he was a cop, demanding that I open my door and show my ID. They sent a Sheriff's deputy out, and when he told me that the other guy was a cop wanting to arrest my daughter, I told him to get the fuck off of my property too.
They both left. But, of course, I'm white. (And you do NOT wake me up and fuck with me before I've had my coffee.)
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)and they never stated their business.
I would have fled out the back and called 911 about an intruder, but then I probably would have been shot in the back and then beaten to death.
Oh, wait, no I wouldn't. I'm white. They wouldn't have even come to my house in the middle of the night, and they would have been polite and solicitous.
B2G
(9,766 posts)The sheriff is black.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)if you think that means it is not about race.
No offense. I am speaking the TRUTH to you. I hope one day you can understand that.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)This smart young kid is setting African Americans back 40 years because he knows what his rights are and he exercises them? As many have said on this thread, I couldn't even imagine this happening to a white family.
B2G
(9,766 posts)and then get back to me.
B2G
(9,766 posts)EOTE
(13,409 posts)So that stupid fuck sheriff must have said that that young man was setting "blah people" back 40 years for exercising his rights. Thanks for setting me straight.
B2G
(9,766 posts)I was responding to this:
"I couldn't even imagine this happening to a white family"
Your imagination is very limited.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)"You really think this is about race?" which would imply that you DON'T think it's about race. Followed by "The sheriff is black" as if that discredits the notion that it's about race. And I shouldn't have said I couldn't imagine it happening to a white person/family, just that it's a lot less likely to happen to one.
B2G
(9,766 posts)Do some research.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)You do your own research.
This is fun!
In all seriousness, I *have* been looking at the number of incidents. There are far too many and they span the racial spectrum.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)Nice fantasy life you have there. Don't worry, there are plenty of racist idiots who also believe that our legal/justice system is completely, 100% not racist. They tend not to be very good at reading. If you're able to, you might want to inform yourself:
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/Jul/18/racism-thrives-in-us-criminal-justice-system/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/g-flint-taylor/racism-the-u-s-justice-sy_b_3612241.html
http://www.care2.com/causes/this-is-how-the-american-justice-system-is-plagued-by-racism.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-quigley/fourteen-examples-of-raci_b_658947.html
But then, you didn't REALLY need me to provide this, did you?
B2G
(9,766 posts)This whole sub thread started with your statement that you couldn't imagine this type of abuse and intimidation happening to a white person. It does. There are cases documented all over the internet if you'd bother to look.
It's wrong no matter who is on the receiving end. Or what color the cop is who's doing the intimidating. In the case of OP, it was essentially black on black intimidation. I can only guess where this thread would have gone if the sheriff had been white.
Abuse of power is abuse of power regardless of the color of the victim or the perpetrator. It's out of control and needs to be dealt with.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)It's QUITE clear that racism was involved. The fact that it happens to a majority population far more infrequently does nothing to deny the institutionalized racism in the criminal justice system.
B2G
(9,766 posts)It started with my responses with 2 posters prior to you.
And I stand by every word I've typed.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)And I certainly expect you to stand by your every word
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines."
B2G
(9,766 posts)http://www.examiner.com/article/newcastle-wyoming-police-terrorize-family-on-an-alleged-barking-dog-complaint
http://prompt.newsvine.com/_news/2007/10/29/1057505-police-terrorize-family-murder-two-pet-dogs-over-small-amount-of-pot
http://www.courierpress.com/news/2012/jun/22/swat-team-enters-home-people-inside-arent/?partner=popular
EOTE
(13,409 posts)And again, you honestly think that racism wasn't involved here? You think the criminal justice system isn't racist? And your semantic game is pretty stupid. That's very much akin to suggesting that racism doesn't exist because white people can be called 'cracker'. I dealt with a ridiculous amount of these stupid arguments during the Zimmerman trial. It's extremely depressing to see them rehashed on DU.
B2G
(9,766 posts)Because I could more readily agree to that. Poor people of any color are at a disadvantage in our society when they enter the judicial system. It costs a ton of money and you get off if you have good lawyers and connections. That's the bottom line.
Race is secondary.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)You do know it doesn't have to be one or the other, right? But to deny that race is a factor overall in the justice system and that it wasn't a factor in this particular case is rather dumb.
B2G
(9,766 posts)It could be an angy black sheriff on a major power trip who needs his ass tossed in jail. He could be terrorizing the entire area without regard to his victims' race.
Do you know for certain?
All we know for certain is that is was abusive and he needs to be fired and brought to trial. Beyond that, it's speculation.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)Christ, there's really no point in responding to such inanity. If you'd like to keep your head in the sand, I'm not going to stop you, you're more than welcome to.
avebury
(10,951 posts)would have reacted if the family were white. Even though it looked like most of the police in the video were black, is it easier for them to harrass and degrade blacks then white people?
heaven05
(18,124 posts)surprises me anymore. Makes me sadder and madder though. mad enough to puke!
PD Turk
(1,289 posts)Doing whatever the hell they want with no regard for civil rights. As a nation, we need to do something about this. It's getting way,way out of hand
Kingofalldems
(38,422 posts)B2G
(9,766 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)There seems to be a new one every day.
tblue37
(65,218 posts)For example: http://www.policebrutality.info
I also keep a document in my Word program with articles and links, though of course my list is not as comprehensive.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)I'm going to use that one for another thread. If you have any other links please share.
Thank you.
tblue37
(65,218 posts)Here are a few others:
policemisconduct.net
policeabuse.com/
http://www.copblock.org
http://www.policecrimes.com
www.cuapb.org/
www.b-cap.org/ (black cops against police brutality)
http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/reference/timestopics/subjects/p/police_brutality_and_misconduct/index.html
There are many such sites--and some of them actually include links to other similar sites.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)The national law enforcement museum should be shut down. There is no need to give glory to these filthy thugs.
Savannahmann
(3,891 posts)Never have so many suffered so much abuse at the hands of so few.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)They had no warrant, which is why they practically banged down their door. These cops were pissed, pure and simple, that this family wasn't going to be cowed by their terroristic tactics. Every one of these officers (and I use that word loosely) and their supervisor needs to be fired.
Call the county commissioners and sheriffs dept and make a complaint.
Jesus H. Christ!
EOTE
(13,409 posts)They need to spend a good chunk of time in prison. I sure as fuck don't feel safe with these assholes roaming free. If you or I did that, we'd surely go to jail. Being a pig doesn't give one license to terrorize whoever they feel is deserving.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)Are you familiar with Georgia law? Can they be charged with assault or something stronger, or just the usual (how awful that it has become usual) 'excessive force'?
EOTE
(13,409 posts)Regardless of the state in which I lived. The standard should be even higher for LEOs. That was a horrific ordeal that family went through. I hope like hell they're compensated justly for the horrors they went through. If this were a just world, those pigs would spend the great bulk of the remainder of their lives behind bars and the PD would have a 7 figure settlement heading their way.
Th1onein
(8,514 posts)Commissioner
(District) Assistant(s) Phone Email
Elaine Boyer
(District 1) Bob Lundsten
Courtney Townsend 404-371-2844 ecboyer@dekalbcountyga.gov
Jeff Rader
(District 2) Caroline Enloe 404-371-2863 jrader@dekalbcountyga.gov
Debbie Schneider
These are all commissioners:
Larry Johnson
(District 3) Margaret Britton 404-371-2425 larryjohnson@dekalbcountyga.gov
Ingrid Butler
Sharon Barnes Sutton
(District 4) Judy T. Brownlee 404-371-4907 sbsutton@dekalbcountyga.gov
Marguerita M. Lance
Lee May
(District 5) Latrese Young 404-371-4745 lmay@dekalbcountyga.gov
Edmond Richardson
Kathie Gannon
(Super District 6) Corrin Wagnon 404-371-4909 kgannon@dekalbcountyga.gov
Davis Fox
Stan Watson
(Super District 7) Kelly LaJoie 404-371-3681 stanwatson@dekalbcountyga.gov
Tiffany Campbell
Here are the numbers for the various office of the County Sheriff:
Executive Offices
DeKalb County Sheriff's Office
4415 Memorial Drive; Decatur, GA 30032
General Information
404-298-8100
Executive Offices
404-298-8145
Media Relations Office
404-298-8105
Public Relations
404-298-8599
Director of Administration and Legal Affairs Office
404-298-8148
Special Projects/Accreditation Office
404-298-8183
Office of Professional Standards(OPS)
404-298-8125
blackspade
(10,056 posts)EOTE
(13,409 posts)And once they're taken of all the earning their GEDs made for them, they need to rot in jail a nice, long time. I'm so fucking sick of these piece of shit pigs thinking they can do whatever the hell they want without repercussions. These assholes need to know that punishment for their abuses of power will be greater than the general public's. I hope these evil fuckers never get another good night's sleep in the rest of their miserable lives.
damnedifIknow
(3,183 posts)Do they just hire people that have no inkling of right and wrong now?
EOTE
(13,409 posts)Hell, probably a good deal further back than that. Police have long believed that they are above the law.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)nt
TeeYiYi
(8,028 posts)TYY
progressoid
(49,945 posts)EOTE
(13,409 posts)Apparently they were under the impression that it was off the bulk of that time. I'm quite certain the video would have been erased or the recorder destroyed had they found out that they'd been recorded all that time.
Phentex
(16,330 posts)and I am surprised they didn't take it but I don't think they realized they were being videoed. Like some kids do these days, the video could have been sent online before anybody had a chance to destroy it.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)He says that at that point, the police believe that the recording had been turned off, but it wasn't. Later on, you can see one of the boys discreetly moving the recording device to get a better view.
Phentex
(16,330 posts)didn't grab it from him.
But do they sound smart enough to know if it was still on?
EOTE
(13,409 posts)avebury
(10,951 posts)shoot the dog I heard barking in the background. I was fully expecting to hear them kill the dog.
Dogs don't tend to have a long life expectancy when cops storm a house.
Peaceplace80
(38 posts)The taser on them for trying to talk! This is disgusting, those cops should be fired and serve time in prison. Thank goodness the guys in the video cooperated or they probably would of ended up shot!
Phentex
(16,330 posts)the news is reporting it but the county is still trying to figure out a way to spin this.
None of this makes any sense. Somebody had to have given the cops orders to do this. But why in the middle of the night? Why at the son's house? Why this show of force for a fine?
I cannot figure out how they are going to talk themselves out of this.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Iggo
(47,534 posts)They're the best!
napkinz
(17,199 posts)nt
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)In fact, soldiers may probably be nicer than these thug police officers...
napkinz
(17,199 posts)nt