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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 05:25 PM Aug 2013

Apple patent could remotely disable protesters' phone cameras

http://www.zdnet.com/apple-patent-could-remotely-disable-protesters-phone-cameras-7000003640/

Isn't it a shame you can't take a photo of the police officer beating a man in the street because your oppressive government remotely disabled your smartphone camera?...

What that means in real-terms is "preventing wireless devices from communicating with other wireless devices (such as in academic settings)," and for, "forcing certain electronic devices to enter "sleep mode" when entering a sensitive area."

But the patented technology may also be used to restrict protesters' right to free expression in oppressive regimes around the world -- if you haven't checked recently, there's plenty of them -- by preventing camera images and video being taken at political rallies and events....

This sort of 'feature' would not bode well for journalists taking photos and citizens recording acts of state violence or police brutality in areas where ordinary people are facing increasing crackdowns on civil and human rights.




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Apple patent could remotely disable protesters' phone cameras (Original Post) KamaAina Aug 2013 OP
Article from a year ago. Note date. Google, Samsung, Microsoft and Blackberry have similar patents. onehandle Aug 2013 #1
Yet. krispos42 Aug 2013 #17
How convenient for authoritarians. woo me with science Aug 2013 #2
That's true for almost everything we (the US) spend our money on. kentauros Aug 2013 #8
See, that mindset is the problem, IMO Recursion Aug 2013 #10
However, kentauros Aug 2013 #11
Thank you, citizen Marat... Recursion Aug 2013 #13
So, not killing people and spending our money on progressive things kentauros Aug 2013 #14
I was referring to what happens when well meaning people start fretting Recursion Aug 2013 #15
Okay, but I wasn't talking about that. kentauros Aug 2013 #16
It's an interesting argument. Robb Aug 2013 #3
First Amendment shut off feature. Octafish Aug 2013 #4
An old article, but Heywood J Aug 2013 #5
I think it would be more likely used to shut down MineralMan Aug 2013 #6
That's what it was originally for. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #7
That's Already Happening... KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #18
So, don't take that kind of camera to a protest. kentauros Aug 2013 #9
I blame Michael Faraday Recursion Aug 2013 #12

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
1. Article from a year ago. Note date. Google, Samsung, Microsoft and Blackberry have similar patents.
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 05:29 PM
Aug 2013

Last edited Thu Aug 8, 2013, 06:03 PM - Edit history (2)

And yet, nothing like this has happened.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
17. Yet.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 09:34 AM
Aug 2013

If it comes to fruition that wireless carriers can sell, rent, or lease some sort of beacon that instructs smartphones to not send or receive data, nor to record images or audio, within range of the beacon, then this will most surely be used by the police to enforce a media blackout.

It does not matter the original intent… keeping phones quiet during movies or college classes or weddings or funerals or church…

You protest, the police will cut off the ability of the protesters to communicate just before taking action.

Remember how often the news helicopters vanished during the OWS protests just before the police moved in?


woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
2. How convenient for authoritarians.
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 05:31 PM
Aug 2013

Imagine what kind of country we would have, if our resources were going toward making life better for people, rather than authoritarian crap like this.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
8. That's true for almost everything we (the US) spend our money on.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 08:57 AM
Aug 2013

If any one of us here was in charge, 99% of the republicans would be in prison, the NSA would be shut down, and the Pentagon would be getting a tenth of the current budget. The money "saved" would go to the science- and technology-based agencies, and the world would see a renaissance of knowledge and tech geared toward helping people and the planet, instead of bigger and "better" ways of killing them.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
10. See, that mindset is the problem, IMO
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 09:15 AM
Aug 2013
If any one of us here was in charge, 99% of the republicans would be in prison, the NSA would be shut down, and the Pentagon would be getting a tenth of the current budget

Well, no. Nobody here would be able to accomplish those things as President.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
15. I was referring to what happens when well meaning people start fretting
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 09:21 AM
Aug 2013

that they aren't sufficiently in charge of things.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
16. Okay, but I wasn't talking about that.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 09:23 AM
Aug 2013

I was talking about what our massive spending could do for all people, unlike how it gets spent now, as woo-me-with-science was also talking about. But, the authoritarians in charge don't appear to want any of that.

Robb

(39,665 posts)
3. It's an interesting argument.
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 05:33 PM
Aug 2013

But it's a bit like saying the wifi at the library has the potential to restrict protesters' rights to free expression because they have a surge suppressor on the router with a big on/off switch on it.

Sure, there's the good use of that thing to protect the equipment in a storm, but they could also switch it off to disable protestors in the area from uploading video to YouTube.

Any technology with the ability to enhance rights can also be used to restrict them. Technology itself is neither the problem nor the solution.

Twitter will not free the imprisoned or lift the downtrodden; we people still have to do that.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
4. First Amendment shut off feature.
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 05:38 PM
Aug 2013

Nice. Restrict the ability to gather the facts about the government or whatever. Makes it easy to write history Karl Rove's way.

Heywood J

(2,515 posts)
5. An old article, but
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 08:42 AM
Aug 2013

I'm shocked, SHOCKED to find out that a company whose products are built by mistreated Chinese workers would consider such a thing, much less file for a patent on it.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
6. I think it would be more likely used to shut down
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 08:51 AM
Aug 2013

the phones and their cameras at entertainment venues by the owners of the venues and the performers.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
7. That's what it was originally for.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 08:54 AM
Aug 2013

To keep people from taking vids of movies at the movie theater, or illicitly taking videos of concerts.

Of course, do these kinds of laws remain within the limits of their originally intended uses?

No, if these "features" are forced into smartphones and cameras, they're going to be used to block filming at protests, and keep people from taking videos of police, and so on.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
18. That's Already Happening...
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 09:46 AM
Aug 2013

...I cannot get a signal on my phone when I'm in Chicago's Symphony Center. Walk 10 feet out the door and the signal is golden. I'm sure other venues have similar technology.

Cell systems can overload easily if there's a surge in usage. On 9/11 cellphones in Manhattan were useless...not because of the government shutting things down.

This article seems like more woo about big brother...

Cheers...

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