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boston bean

(36,220 posts)
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 08:56 PM Aug 2013

Misogyny runs so deep in this society, it is even used against abused children - possible trigger

"The girl is predatory in all her actions and she is sexually experienced." So said the prosecution lawyer, Robert Colover QC of the Crown Prosecution Service. He was not even the defence lawyer, but the lawyer representing us, the state. Because the 13-year-old victim had been abused before, that seemingly proved her the guilty one. Even worse, Judge Nigel Peters laid it on thick, too, semi-forgiving the man: "The girl was predatory and she was egging you on."

How familiar this is. When in doubt, the female temptress is to blame, the old Eve – or in this case, a very young one. The little vixen had led astray a 41-year-old man found to have images of child abuse and bestiality on his computer. But never mind, the indelible image of Nabokov's Lolita allows men to side with Humbert Humbert. Girls are never innocent, they are born knowing, alluring seductresses at any age, asking for it, in one way or another.

After revealing to a friend what had happened, the child endured the pain, shame and humiliation of her case being taken to court by the police, where she was traduced by the judge as well as the CPS lawyer for this "egging him on" to "perform a sex act on him". Then her abuser, Neil Wilson, walked free with a suspended sentence.

We know nothing about this girl, but we know one big thing: children are innocent. Children cannot give consent to their own abuse, below the age of 16. We can surmise what "experience" this girl may have had before, what abuse or neglect the judge and lawyers didn't bother to delve into. There have been so many cases where we know who the vulnerable children are, lacking adult affection and attention, seeking it with the only thing that makes an adult notice their existence – sex. But the idea that a 13-year-old was a "predator" and a 41-year-old man just her victim sweeps all that away.


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/07/misogyny-society-abused-children-predatory
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Misogyny runs so deep in this society, it is even used against abused children - possible trigger (Original Post) boston bean Aug 2013 OP
I'm amazed that things like this still stagger me Scootaloo Aug 2013 #1
I dont agree with some of the things this writer writes, but that this still occurs boston bean Aug 2013 #2
just gross and horrible. I would hope there are political forces in Britain that can combat this CTyankee Aug 2013 #3
I myself have been questioned on this website what possibly could have boston bean Aug 2013 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author LumosMaxima Aug 2013 #8
When raygun was in, there was a judge in Wisconsin, iirc, that gave a pedophile the lowest sentence Mnemosyne Aug 2013 #5
I remember that! But have never been able to find a link. My husband and I freaked reading it... freshwest Aug 2013 #9
I've also looked for link, no luck. One of the most disgusting comments ever made by a judge, imho. Mnemosyne Aug 2013 #11
That kind of person on the bench doing so much harm. Sickening. freshwest Aug 2013 #14
We can only hope he didn't last long. nt Mnemosyne Aug 2013 #15
I have seen a CPS worker take that position with a 13 year old Shrike47 Aug 2013 #6
Anyone can say bullshit. What matters is if one buys it AZ Progressive Aug 2013 #7
CPS is supposed to protect children. That's their MISSION! elehhhhna Aug 2013 #12
Lawyer and judges should be struck off - fired Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2013 #10
That's pretty horrible jimlup Aug 2013 #13
A 13 year old is a "seductress?" Dash87 Aug 2013 #16
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
1. I'm amazed that things like this still stagger me
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 09:00 PM
Aug 2013

The judge, not so surprising. But that someone in CPS would classify the victim of rape, a child, as the predator?!

There's something deeply amiss in this

boston bean

(36,220 posts)
2. I dont agree with some of the things this writer writes, but that this still occurs
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 09:02 PM
Aug 2013

was what motivated me to post.

CTyankee

(63,899 posts)
3. just gross and horrible. I would hope there are political forces in Britain that can combat this
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 09:03 PM
Aug 2013

vile sort of abuse of a system. Unbelievably bad...

boston bean

(36,220 posts)
4. I myself have been questioned on this website what possibly could have
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 09:08 PM
Aug 2013

Happened to me, that makes these issues important to me. Or that because I can see misogyny or sexism, I must have been abused and hate men. It is the epitome is misogyny, and is left unchecked and given the seal of approval. Ie, This line of questioning with a woman who is a feminist and speaks about rape culture.

Response to boston bean (Reply #4)

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
5. When raygun was in, there was a judge in Wisconsin, iirc, that gave a pedophile the lowest sentence
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 10:03 PM
Aug 2013

possible because he felt that the five year old little girl had contributed to her own abuse by, "acting seductively". He was one of the 'Moral Majority' group of asses.

These people make me so ill and angry...

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
9. I remember that! But have never been able to find a link. My husband and I freaked reading it...
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 11:16 PM
Aug 2013
Never been able to get those exact words out of my mind, all these years. So shocking, they cannot be forgotten.

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
11. I've also looked for link, no luck. One of the most disgusting comments ever made by a judge, imho.
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 11:22 PM
Aug 2013


How could anyone, much less a judge, ever think such a thing of a little girl?! I think he was one himself and justifying his own thoughts, if not actions. They live to project. Absolutely sickening.

And his type are still out there passing judgements....

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
6. I have seen a CPS worker take that position with a 13 year old
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 10:16 PM
Aug 2013

After she had, and reported to authorities, her 3rd sexual relationship with a male over 18 in less than a year. Each of the males ended up in prison.

Yes, she had also been abused when younger and they were trying to provide counseling. She kept running from her foster placements.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
12. CPS is supposed to protect children. That's their MISSION!
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 11:24 PM
Aug 2013

Not to blame victims, even if they've been hypersexualized by predators.

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