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KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 12:08 PM Aug 2013

Would You Support Jerry Brown Candidacy For POTUS?

To get tax-hating Californians to vote to raise their own taxes, Brown became Governor Gloom. If the tax-cutters’ theory was to cut taxes so much we’d have to shrink government, he was going to shrink government so much that people would raise taxes. In addition to schools and community colleges, he would cut medical programs, aid to the disabled, and child health care. “Our breakthrough came because of the breakdown,” he says. “There were more layoffs, more pink slips, more agitation. Cutting was very conducive to the success of Prop 30.” In short: Jerry Brown scared the crap out of people.

It worked. The proposition passed by more than 10 percent. After taxes went up, so did approval ratings for Brown and the state legislature: Brown to 57 percent, the legislature to 36. Even the opposition is digging him. “When Governor Brown released his proposal for this year’s state budget, I couldn’t believe my ears,” says Assembly Republican Leader Connie Conway. “It truly sounded as though the governor channeled his inner Republican.” He’s also won over much of the business community, though he raised their personal taxes. “He comes at things differently than Arnold Schwarzenegger,” says Allan Zaremberg, chief executive officer of the California Chamber of Commerce, who worked with Brown on his first, abandoned tax hike. “You better be damn well prepared when you talk to him.” Zaremberg is pleased with Brown’s work to lower health-care costs to businesses and reform the state’s environmental quality act, which he says can be burdensome.

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-04-25/jerry-brown-californias-grownup-governor#p2

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Would You Support Jerry Brown Candidacy For POTUS? (Original Post) KittyWampus Aug 2013 OP
I would, I think. MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #1
Call me ageist, but... devils chaplain Aug 2013 #2
So his VP choice would be important is what you're saying. nt valerief Aug 2013 #7
No... honestly I'm more worried about mental deterioration. Alzheimers isn't just for Reps. n/t devils chaplain Aug 2013 #10
I like the guy, but definitely too old cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #3
What works on CA doesn't work everywhere upaloopa Aug 2013 #4
Youre more enlightened in CA? bunnies Aug 2013 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author upaloopa Aug 2013 #11
prop 8 is gone upaloopa Aug 2013 #11
Not because of the "enlightened" voters of CA. former9thward Aug 2013 #17
Yes. Its gone. bunnies Aug 2013 #18
I worked with the Courage Campaign as did many other people in CA upaloopa Aug 2013 #25
i'd comment on your comment olddots Aug 2013 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author upaloopa Aug 2013 #11
I supported him before for POTUS. I'd do it again. nt valerief Aug 2013 #6
+1 mitchtv Aug 2013 #30
Nope. KamaAina Aug 2013 #8
50/50 What are the options? n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #9
No. I don't support candidates who cut pensions, child care or the disabled. forestpath Aug 2013 #14
No. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #15
Maybe. LWolf Aug 2013 #16
Baggage. nt onehandle Aug 2013 #19
Too old. Blue_In_AK Aug 2013 #20
No. He's way too old for the job. He's 75 now, if you can believe it. n/t duffyduff Aug 2013 #21
Again? nt Snotcicles Aug 2013 #22
Jerry isn't by himself here. Starry Messenger Aug 2013 #23
Agree, and he won't go over well with any of the remote control crowd but I would consider him yes lunasun Aug 2013 #27
No. David__77 Aug 2013 #24
Slow your roll people thelordofhell Aug 2013 #26
Gavin Newsom, please. eom millennialmax Aug 2013 #28
I'd vote for him. Iggo Aug 2013 #29
He's better than most. tblue Aug 2013 #31

devils chaplain

(602 posts)
2. Call me ageist, but...
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 12:11 PM
Aug 2013

Jerry Brown will be just about 79 years old at his inauguration in that scenario. The human mind does deteriorate, sad to say.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
4. What works on CA doesn't work everywhere
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 12:22 PM
Aug 2013

We are more enlightened in CA than the rest of the country trust me.

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upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
25. I worked with the Courage Campaign as did many other people in CA
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 02:28 PM
Aug 2013

we all worked against the Church of Later Day Saints, money from all over the country and to be sure bigots in CA.
But we all worked to defeat prop eight in the courts.
The enlightened people of CA all worked before the vote and after the defeat and we prevailed.
If you don't want to give us credit it's no skin off my nose. I know what we did and I feel good about it.

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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
8. Nope.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 12:27 PM
Aug 2013

Thanks to Prop 30, we had a surplus instead of a deficit for the first time since before Ahh-nuld.

Brown deliberately lowballed his estimate of it so he wouldn't have to use it to restore social services that have been cut to the bone over the past decade. He gave most of what was left to schools (understandable) and debt service ( ).

And then there's this:

“It truly sounded as though the governor channeled his inner Republican.”


She says that like it's a good thing.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
16. Maybe.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 12:35 PM
Aug 2013

There are pros and cons, already provided by others on your thread.

I'd support him over some, anyway.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
23. Jerry isn't by himself here.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 01:11 PM
Aug 2013

He knows he has to work with unions and grassroots to do things here. Would that scale nationally? I doubt it, judging from the lefty-bashing and union-hating I see here from "centrists".

thelordofhell

(4,569 posts)
26. Slow your roll people
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 02:33 PM
Aug 2013

If Jerry Brown became President, then there would probably be another piece of shit governor in California fucking up everything again.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
31. He's better than most.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 02:43 PM
Aug 2013

Does not appear to be a corporate toady. He's done a lot of good for California, though he's done a few things that really bugged me (some anti-farmworker legislation, for one). I'd vote for him over Hillary though.

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