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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWould You Support Jerry Brown Candidacy For POTUS?
To get tax-hating Californians to vote to raise their own taxes, Brown became Governor Gloom. If the tax-cutters theory was to cut taxes so much wed have to shrink government, he was going to shrink government so much that people would raise taxes. In addition to schools and community colleges, he would cut medical programs, aid to the disabled, and child health care. Our breakthrough came because of the breakdown, he says. There were more layoffs, more pink slips, more agitation. Cutting was very conducive to the success of Prop 30. In short: Jerry Brown scared the crap out of people.
It worked. The proposition passed by more than 10 percent. After taxes went up, so did approval ratings for Brown and the state legislature: Brown to 57 percent, the legislature to 36. Even the opposition is digging him. When Governor Brown released his proposal for this years state budget, I couldnt believe my ears, says Assembly Republican Leader Connie Conway. It truly sounded as though the governor channeled his inner Republican. Hes also won over much of the business community, though he raised their personal taxes. He comes at things differently than Arnold Schwarzenegger, says Allan Zaremberg, chief executive officer of the California Chamber of Commerce, who worked with Brown on his first, abandoned tax hike. You better be damn well prepared when you talk to him. Zaremberg is pleased with Browns work to lower health-care costs to businesses and reform the states environmental quality act, which he says can be burdensome.
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-04-25/jerry-brown-californias-grownup-governor#p2
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Not totally my cup of tea, but smart, experienced, and honest.
devils chaplain
(602 posts)Jerry Brown will be just about 79 years old at his inauguration in that scenario. The human mind does deteriorate, sad to say.
valerief
(53,235 posts)devils chaplain
(602 posts)cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)upaloopa
(11,417 posts)We are more enlightened in CA than the rest of the country trust me.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)Explains prop 8 I guess.
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upaloopa
(11,417 posts)To be enlightened you have yo face your mistakes not run away from them.
former9thward
(31,974 posts)bunnies
(15,859 posts)No thanks to the "enlightened" people of CA though.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)we all worked against the Church of Later Day Saints, money from all over the country and to be sure bigots in CA.
But we all worked to defeat prop eight in the courts.
The enlightened people of CA all worked before the vote and after the defeat and we prevailed.
If you don't want to give us credit it's no skin off my nose. I know what we did and I feel good about it.
olddots
(10,237 posts)but it isn't worth it.
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valerief
(53,235 posts)honest AND smart
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Thanks to Prop 30, we had a surplus instead of a deficit for the first time since before Ahh-nuld.
Brown deliberately lowballed his estimate of it so he wouldn't have to use it to restore social services that have been cut to the bone over the past decade. He gave most of what was left to schools (understandable) and debt service ( ).
And then there's this:
She says that like it's a good thing.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)forestpath
(3,102 posts)Period.
Safetykitten
(5,162 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)There are pros and cons, already provided by others on your thread.
I'd support him over some, anyway.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)I think Hillary and Joe are too old, too. And I'm not being ageist because I, too, am old.
duffyduff
(3,251 posts)Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)He knows he has to work with unions and grassroots to do things here. Would that scale nationally? I doubt it, judging from the lefty-bashing and union-hating I see here from "centrists".
lunasun
(21,646 posts)David__77
(23,369 posts)I will be glad to vote for him again for governor next year.
thelordofhell
(4,569 posts)If Jerry Brown became President, then there would probably be another piece of shit governor in California fucking up everything again.
millennialmax
(331 posts)Iggo
(47,548 posts)Other than that, you gotta define "support."
tblue
(16,350 posts)Does not appear to be a corporate toady. He's done a lot of good for California, though he's done a few things that really bugged me (some anti-farmworker legislation, for one). I'd vote for him over Hillary though.