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Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 05:23 PM Aug 2013

End of the line for the Love Boat: MS ex-Pacific Princess beached at Aliaga for scrapping (UPDATE#2)

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http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/love-boat-makes-final-run-to-scrap-heap.aspx?pageID=238&nID=52222&NewsCatID=345

The MS Pacific, a cruise ship made famous by its appearance in the popular U.S. 1970s television show “The Love Boat,” has sailed its final voyage to a ship-breaking yard on Turkey’s Aegean Sea coast, a shipping group said.

Called the Pacific Princess when it was on the long-running comedy, the iconic 13,500-tonne, 171-m-long (561-foot-) vessel will be stripped for its metal and parts, said Ersin Çeviker of the Ship Recyclers’ Association of Turkey.

Aaron Spelling’s “The Love Boat,” starring Gavin MacLeod as the ship’s captain, ran on the U.S. television network ABC from 1977 to 1986. The show was set on board the Pacific Princess, which mainly sailed from California to the Mexican Riveria.
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Before being beached, she took on a significant list while in transit to Turkey:


Video of the actual beaching:


The ship in much better days:


...and now comes the earworm for the weekend:


Rest in peace, old girl!

UPDATE: Sadly, two scrapyard workers lost their lives shortly after her arrival in Aligia:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/12/travel/love-boat-accident/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

The ship, which had just completed its final voyage and was scheduled to be dismantled, was damaged while entering the port of Aliaga in Turkey's Izmir province and began taking on water in a storage area under the main engine.
Crews on Saturday began work to drain the water, deploying electrical pumps. Engine-exhaust buildup led to the toxic exposure, according to Izmir Ship Recycling Co., the firm that recently purchased the ship for 2.5 million euros (about $3.33 million).
Six other people were injured and were released from the hospital after receiving treatment, according to Izmir Ship Recycling.
The Aliaga attorney general's office has launched an investigation, but investigators haven't been unable to reach the accident site. Izmir Ship Recycling has to finish removing water and turn the ship off its side so authorities can continue the probe.
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Jeebus... she's not going without a fight.

UPDATE #2: She's turning turtle - in danger of rolling on her side:

http://maritimematters.com/2013/08/ex-pacific-princess-heeling-over/

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Selim San reports that ACIF (ex SEA VENTURE, PACIFIC PRINCESS, PACIFIC) is now in danger of capsizing as the ship continues to hemorrhage at a scrapyard in Aliaga, Turkey.
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She is giving up. She simply wants to roll over and sleep forever.
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End of the line for the Love Boat: MS ex-Pacific Princess beached at Aliaga for scrapping (UPDATE#2) (Original Post) Cooley Hurd Aug 2013 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author LumosMaxima Aug 2013 #1
Me too. Cooley Hurd Aug 2013 #2
Yeah, it wasn't too bad, even if Fred Gandy, who played Gopher later became a Republican congressman cascadiance Aug 2013 #3
Honestly RudynJack Aug 2013 #13
I was joking... I used to live in Iowa so was very aware of Gopher's later venture... cascadiance Aug 2013 #16
WTF? Vinnie From Indy Aug 2013 #26
I need to ease up? RudynJack Aug 2013 #27
Corny but fun! Phentex Aug 2013 #6
It's pretty much a rowboat in size compared to the newer ships afloat these days. Aristus Aug 2013 #4
This is really very sad. You'd think they could do better for an American icon Rhiannon12866 Aug 2013 #5
Sadly, we can't save them all. Our efforts regarding iconic ships should be directed here: Cooley Hurd Aug 2013 #10
$500,000 short-term, $250 million long-term... Buns_of_Fire Aug 2013 #11
Excellent story. Thanks! lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #12
You have to hand it to the SS US Conservancy - they're working their butts off... Cooley Hurd Aug 2013 #21
My vote is to save the USS Olympia.. EX500rider Aug 2013 #14
I think she's safe now - two groups are vying to move her to their cities: Cooley Hurd Aug 2013 #20
Good news! Rhiannon12866 Aug 2013 #23
The navy ship I was stationed on is now an B Calm Aug 2013 #7
The Oriskany? roamer65 Aug 2013 #8
USS Yosemite AD19 B Calm Aug 2013 #17
Isn't she too far down to be an effective reef? Cooley Hurd Aug 2013 #19
...or the Spiegel Grove (LSD-32)? Cooley Hurd Aug 2013 #9
I went on this cruise ship in 1971 Bryn Aug 2013 #15
That must've been wonderful! Cooley Hurd Aug 2013 #18
Kicking for the update Cooley Hurd Aug 2013 #22
Kicking for a new update - a fascinating and sad end for the ex-Pacific Princess Cooley Hurd Aug 2013 #24
This is so sad - really hard to watch. Rhiannon12866 Aug 2013 #25
That's a sad sight to see. :-( nt Raine Aug 2013 #28

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Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
2. Me too.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 05:43 PM
Aug 2013

I've always been a ship-geek (even before the show), so this show was like candy to me. The writing didn't suck and the recurring characters were likable.

I had a brush with the old PP when I sailed my boat down to NY harbor from Albany in 2002. It was her last year in Princess Cruises livery, and she looked as if they just got done filming an episode. She was replaced later that year by a new Pacific Princess and went to work for a Mediterranean cruise line (Pullmantur Cruises) . She was passed to a third cruise line (Quail Cruises) that promptly ran her into the ground. Sad end for such an iconic ship.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
3. Yeah, it wasn't too bad, even if Fred Gandy, who played Gopher later became a Republican congressman
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 06:22 PM
Aug 2013

... in the state of Iowa later... Too bad he couldn't have been more like Cooter from the Dukes of Hazard and become a Democratic congressman instead...

Looking at a link from Gandy's wiki page it seems interesting that he had an incident when filming the Love Boat in Turkey where he and Lauren Tewes horribly burned their hands there in a taxi. Perhaps a vision then for the end of the PP there?

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20055113,00.html

I myself had a "ship accident" when I was a kid getting on to a ship from the Turkish coast that went to the Greek Island of Rhodes... As we were getting on and going up the stairway from the dock to the ship my thumb got pinched between the handrail of the stairway and the ship when the ship drifted in to the dock and I thought it was going to get broken or worse. Fortunately it was only badly bruised.

RudynJack

(1,044 posts)
13. Honestly
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 12:35 PM
Aug 2013

How do you live like that? When a simple thread about an iconic ship from 70s TV immediately makes you fret over how a lesser character was a Republican?

How do you get through a day? It must be wearing.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
16. I was joking... I used to live in Iowa so was very aware of Gopher's later venture...
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 01:49 PM
Aug 2013

I also loved Babylon V as a television series, even if Jerry Doyle (Garabaldi) later went on to become a conservative talk show host. But the creator of the series J. Michael Straczynski is more of a hard core progressive like we are. I've always found this post of his to usenet pretty amusing, which perhaps revealed some of the show's tensions between different political perspectives of those on it, but perhaps what lead it to be a very creative sci fi series in addition to a good social commentary on our culture as well and political conflicts that were involved in it.

http://jmsnews.com/msg.aspx?id=1-16688

Bruce had been at the White House about a month ago, in the company of wife
Melissa Gilbert, president of the Screen Actors Guild, for a discussion with
some of the functionaries there concerning acting roles moving north of the
Canadian border.

As they're talking, in a long conference room, in the middle of the meeting the
door oens and Karl Rove -- main strategist for the Republican Party and power
behind the White House throne -- comes in. He says (paraphrased from memory)
to Melissa, "I hope you'll forgive me, but I actually here to see Bruce."

He then tells Bruce, "I just wanted to tell you that I'm a big science fiction
fan, and that Babylon 5 is the best science fiction television series *ever*."

Then there's a pause, and he adds....

"And the President thinks so too."

Upon hearing this, I went to lie down for a spell, but I fully expect to be
back on my feet by Spring, latest.

jms


Yeah, I know that Love Boat was far more of an escapist fun series, but this is a political discussion board. Sometimes these discussions bring up political memories too...

Vinnie From Indy

(10,820 posts)
26. WTF?
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 02:02 AM
Aug 2013

Dude, ease up on the caffeine or something! The poster was merely relating their thoughts on the show. Different than yours they may be, but still valid and on topic.

Cheers!

Phentex

(16,330 posts)
6. Corny but fun!
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 07:56 AM
Aug 2013

and something different for the times. It was fun to see which stars would make cameos.

Aristus

(66,250 posts)
4. It's pretty much a rowboat in size compared to the newer ships afloat these days.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 06:25 PM
Aug 2013

Farewell to the PP, bad TV and all...

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
10. Sadly, we can't save them all. Our efforts regarding iconic ships should be directed here:
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 11:37 AM
Aug 2013
http://www.ssusc.org/

This is the famous ship that didn't sink.

The SS United States emerged in the wake of World War II as a combination ocean liner and convertible troop ship. Because of this dual role, she was built to rigid U.S. Navy standards by the legendary Newport News Shipbuilding and Drydock Company. Since the ship was built with an all-aluminum superstructure from the largest single order of aluminum yet placed, the vessel's weight was kept to a minimum compared to similarly-sized vessels such as Cunard's Queen Mary or Queen Elizabeth, each having displacements of greater than 77,000 long tons. By comparison, her aluminum superstructure reduced the SS United States' dead weight to a significantly lower 45,400 long tons, which combined with a maximum 247,785 horsepower rating (approximately 60,000 shaft horsepower greater than either of the Queens) gave the vessel a tremendous horsepower to weight ratio compared to its rivals.

The genius of naval architects Gibbs & Cox's design included dual engine rooms built as a precaution against the ship being rendered powerless during an attack. The vessel could travel in reverse at over 20 knots and it was later revealed that the ship's top speed during sea trials was in excess of 43 knots-an extraordinary achievement for its size. An efficient hull design, incorporating a knife-like stem, tiny bulbous bow and rounded cruiser and transom stern combination, coupled with a revolutionary propeller configuration, contributed to the liner's incredible speed. Capable of carrying 14,000 troops over 10,000 nautical miles without refueling, the liner's accommodations were thought to be somewhat austere. All furnishings and fittings were custom-designed from glass, aluminum and other non-flammable lightweight materials and built to ensure adherence to rigid Navy fire standards. Consequently it was a well-known publicity fact that the only wood aboard appeared in the ship's pianos and butcher blocks.
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Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
21. You have to hand it to the SS US Conservancy - they're working their butts off...
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 10:08 AM
Aug 2013

...to save her. I really hope they do.

EX500rider

(10,782 posts)
14. My vote is to save the USS Olympia..
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 01:00 PM
Aug 2013

...Commodore Dewey's Flagship for the Battle of Manila Bay in 1898 and the oldest surviving USN steel hulled ship.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Olympia_(C-6)

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
20. I think she's safe now - two groups are vying to move her to their cities:
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 10:07 AM
Aug 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Olympia_(C-6)#The_TAPP_Process

The TAPP Process
As a result of the summit, the Independence Seaport Museum (ISM) in Philadelphia is seeking another non-profit organization to assume stewardship of Olympia to provide for her maintenance and restoration. On 6 March 2011, the ISM published a Transfer Application (TAPP) similar to a Request for Proposals. Those who qualified to apply for the TAPP include domestic governmental organizations and not for profit organizations with valid 501(c)(3) (charitable) IRS status. There are several organizations from the East, Gulf and West Coasts who submitted applications to preserve and display Olympia. Only four were found to be acceptable from Pennsylvania, California, South Carolina, and Washington DC.

One TAPP applicant, an independent non-profit 501(c)(3) corporation known as Friends of the Cruiser Olympia, was organized in 2009 with the goal of preserving Olympia and opening her to the public as a floating historic and educational museum that would preserve Olympia's structure, history, heritage, and tradition as a national treasure. The Friends of the Cruiser Olympia hosted a dinner on 23 June 2011, in the historic Mike Mansfield Room of the U.S. Capitol to raise awareness of their efforts to save, restore and preserve the Cruiser OLYMPIA from destruction by neglect. Participants included representatives of the U.S. Navy, Department of Defense, Navy League, Naval Historical Foundation, US Naval Academy Alumni Association, key Congressional staff from the House and Senate Armed Services Committees and the Pennsylvania Congressional Delegation, the US defense industry, and the international community. With their support, the Friends submitted their TAPP application in September 2011 expressing their intention to keep her. The Friends application was found acceptable and the organization has begun preparations for Phase II of the TAPP process.

On 7 May 2011, the National Trust for Historic Preservation (NTHP) set up a national donation repository to allow donations received through it to be used directly for the much needed temporary and future hull repairs. The Independence Seaport Museum, although it is committed to giving up the vessel, will manage any repair work undertaken, should funds become available.

On 19 August 2011, the Mare Island Historic Park Foundation located at the closed Mare Island Naval Shipyard in Vallejo, California submitted an expression of intent to acquire Olympia. The Mare Island Historic Park Foundation has been operating for 18 years and currently operates two mansions, the oldest non-denominational chapel in the Navy, and a 50,000 square foot museum in the oldest building on the former shipyard. The Mare Island Historic Park Foundation intends to display the ship out of water in Mare Island's Dry Dock 1, a national historic landmark adjacent to the museum. By displaying the ship out of water, Mare Island Historic Park Foundations feels that future corrosion concerns with the hull will be eliminated and the venue will be enhanced by the ability to view not only the ship, but a historic graving dock as well.

On 13 October 2011, a bill was introduced in the House of Representatives that would require production of silver dollars commemorating Olympia. The cost of each coin would include a surcharge of $10, which would be used for the restoration and preservation of the ship.[51][52] The bill, HR 3180, names the Friends of the Cruiser Olympia as participants in the coin design and recipients of the funds raised to ensure Olympia's ongoing restoration and preservation.

As of May, 2013, only two organizations remain in the TAPP process: the Mare Island Historic Park and one from Beaufort, SC.

Rhiannon12866

(204,469 posts)
23. Good news!
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 02:33 AM
Aug 2013

Even people who aren't ordinarily enamored of ships should be interested in seeing this one.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
19. Isn't she too far down to be an effective reef?
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 09:45 AM
Aug 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Yosemite_(AD-19)#Final_disposition

On 18 November 2003, Yosemite was expended as a target, sunk at a depth of 2340 fathoms (14,040 feet; 4,279 meters).

Bryn

(3,621 posts)
15. I went on this cruise ship in 1971
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 01:12 PM
Aug 2013

when it was the Sea Venture going to Bermuda from NYC for 7 days before it became 'Love Boat'. Great memories.

RIP

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