An e-mail I just received from an IT recruiter:

[wyldwolf]

We are looking for an energetic, committed, creative and highly motivated person to support the change management team on a global change program. This person will serve as the Global Project Communication Manager.
Position Summary:
Management of the program internet web page
Design of communication content
Work with the program team to create regular news updates
Develop review and feedback processes to measure communication effectiveness
Support the program on establishment and delivery of training
Management of the program document repository

Skills and Attributes:
Able to engage with the program team and the business in a technical environment.
Able to communicate effectively in a global community
Appreciation of global culture variation and demands
A first class communicator and an excellent team player
Flexible and able to work outside standard office hours
Experience in SharePoint, Chatter and other communication tools

Qualifications:
Degree in IT & Social Media. Marketing experience a plus

Salary: $17.00/hr.

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Really? An IT project management role with a concentration in social media with experience in sharepoint... $17 fucking dollars an hour?

Is every job in every field being wal-martized?? Sheesh.

[PowerToThePeople]

1. Is every job in every field being wal-martized??

No CEOs, Bankers, Politicians are still getting paid. Everyone else?

[BlueStreak]

8. That kind of talk is very harmful to American freedom

at a time of TERRA!!!!! [font size="5"]TERRA!!!!![/font] [font size="7"]TERRA!!!!![/font]

[SalviaBlue]

11. Brilliant

in its simplicity. He was a national treasure!

Thank you for posting

[antigop]

28. well, who was on the Walmart board and later pushed for h-1b increase?

Still waiting for Hillary to explain exactly what engineers and IT people are supposed to train for after their jobs get offshored.

[CrispyQ]

31. Oh go fuck yourself, Hilary Clinton.

It's not about skills & you know it you lying sack. It's about getting IT workers, who've spent years educating themselves & building a comprehensive skill set, for $17 an hour. Also, if I train for a new job, cuz you outsourced my old job to a foreign worker who works for considerably less, how long before you give my new job to another foreign worker, who works for considerably less? How many goddamned fucking times do I have to retrain for a new career? Until I'm making $17 an hour, I suppose.

Go fuck yourself HC. I'm done with "democrats" like you. You cannot have social justice without economic justice. Yes the dems are better on social issues, but on economic issues, they serve the 1%. Voting for the lesser of two evils is getting me exactly what I have been voting against.

[BlueStreak]

2. "If you don't want it, we have a firm in India that will be happy to do it"

This is how insidious the Cheap Labor Republican [tm] scheme has become. The Internet is the greatest thing ever for these job killers.

We need to oppose every effort to authorize visas for hi tech workers. If they are going to go with third world wages, at least make them bear the costs of working with a bunch of people halfway around the world.

[antigop]

23. It's not just the Republicans. The corporate Dems are part of the problem. nt

[BlueStreak]

33. Agreed, but Cheap Labor [tm] is the central premise of the GOP

Everything else they do revolves around this fundamental. Kill unions = cheap labor. Kill medicare = cheap labor. Shift the tax burden from corporations to individuals = cheap labor. Fight health care as a right = cheap labor. This is the most important premise of modern Republicanism.

Yes, too many Democrats suffer from Stockholm Syndrome. But it is fundamentally a Republican thing. Our job is to let Democrats know this is not a negotiable item in the 21st Century.

[antigop]

35. and the Dems have done, what, exactly, to stop outsourcing? They trotted out

the Sensata workers at the Democratic National Convention as a PR stunt, but haven't done anything to stop outsourcing of jobs.

What have the Dems done to support labor?

We were supposed to get card check...nope that didn't happen either.

And what have they done to stop importing h-1b visa engineers/IT people?

The Dems are just as culpable as the Reps.

[antigop]

30. Hillary: there are "advantages" to outsourcing of US jobs to India

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/ndtv-exclusive-hillary-clinton-on-fdi-mamata-outsourcing-and-hafiz-saeed-full-transcript-207593

Hillary Clinton: So you are talking about the outsourcing of US jobs to India. We know it's been going on for many years now and it's part of our economic relationship with India and I think there are advantages with it that have certainly benefitted many parts of our country and there are disadvantages that go to the need to improve the job fields of our own people and create a better economic environment so it's like anything like the pluses and minuses.

The "advantages" go to the CEOs and shareholders, NOT the working stiffs.

Exactly, what are engineers and IT people supposed to train for after their jobs are sent to India and other countries?

[BlueStreak]

34. You can be a product manager

and be the poor schmuck responsible for trying to get these third world work forces to actually produce a viable product. But we can only pay you $45K a year to do that, and it will probably take 60-70 hours a week and 8 grueling trips to India and China a year.

[Recursion]

3. Sounds like a webmaster position. Title inflation (nt)

[lumberjack_jeff]

26. And credentialism too.

The fancy-smancy words used in the job posting are trying to hide the reality; this is someone who is writing articles and updating facebook on an existing website.

$17/hour is appropriate, the fancy title and the college requirement is not.

[Recursion]

29. Yeah, the degree requirements in IT are absurd

Though I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that a BS in "social media" is actually a thing.

[A HERETIC I AM]

4. That's not a salary...

That's a wage.


Here's hoping you were able to tell them where to put the offer.

[wyldwolf]

6. I did

Wrote him back with one word: insulting.

[ellisonz]

15. +1000

[TheMastersNemesis]

7. Doesn't Matter - They Will Wait For Some Desperate Soul To Take Such An Offer.

And they can wait almost indefinitely. And if an American does not take it, there are H1B's in the wings who will. The new meme put out by the GOP is that workers will have to be grateful to have any job no matter how little it pays.

[TheMastersNemesis]

5. It Is Called Wage Parity With The Global Economya

All globalization is is "wage parity" with the global job market at a global market value. Consider the fact that a salary in a place like China, India or the Asian market is much less than that for the same skills. If the public really understood what I have been posting for quite some time what "wage parity" means, everyone might consider unionization.

I worked at DOL for 24 years until 1998. And even though I have been retired for 15 years the agenda I witnessed during my career has stayed the same. In code Reagan said he would promote a low wage economy in "code talk". And his vision is coming true. At least the vision his handlers painted for him.

Consider the fact that unskilled labor in Bangeladesh is the paltry sum of $1 a day cutting up ships you can figure out what skilled labor there would pay. American workers need to wake up to the fact that the "plunge to the bottom" has really only just begun. Remember the GOP and US Chamber, the Koch brothers and their allies are pushing for a "free market wage" that has NO floor like our minimum wage.

There are even a lot of Republicans who will sink to a low level wage with no benefits under the GOP economic plan.

[randome]

9. Sean Hannity started with a lot less!

Yes, that was an insulting offer. It could even have been malware if there was a link.
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[Skittles]

10. Able to communicate effectively in a global community Appreciation of global culture variation

what that really means is the ability to communicate with people speaking English like you have NEVER heard and who think it is normal to take lunch breaks during SEV 1's

[cyberswede]

12. $35,000 a year - isn't that about what starting teachers make?

Hard to live on that with a family & student loans.

[Baitball Blogger]

13. Looks like it's lawyered.

They send these out and if no one responds it allows them to make a case to hire someone through an H1B visa.

[Jesus Malverde]

17. [phone]

[antigop]

24. that's exactly what it sounds like. nt

[starroute]

14. It doesn't seem like all that high-level a job

They want someone to manage a webpage, add news updates, and measure the effectiveness of what's being communicated to a global audience.

But aside from that, it sounds like a support position with no supervisory aspects. It's all stuff like "support the program" and "engage with the program team." This is not "project management." And that "Management of the program document repository" part just screams "glorified file clerk."

If you think of it as an entry-level position for a recent college graduate with maybe an internship under their belt, $17 an hour sounds perfectly reasonable.

[cascadiance]

16. Write him back that looking at working as a cashier at Costco looks to be a better paying job...

... as they DO pay more than that per hour too!

Respond to an insult with a creative insult yourself.

Nothing derogatory meant towards Costco workers. But I'm guessing that Costco pays their IT people far more than they pay their cashiers too.

[limpyhobbler]

18. Global economy. It's probably gonna get worse.

[Downwinder]

19. NSA is paying $200,000.

[HardTimes99]

22. But NSA is also laying off 90% of its SysAdmins and going with 'automation'. Cue

up Murphy's Law in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . .

[Downwinder]

27. Bet they just hide them in another corner.

Like the Navy did with their batmen.

[jtuck004]

20. A year from now, with a few thousand more full-time jobs replaced with part-time, and

and immigration bill passed, you might see it again at $12.

I looked at one in the paper the other day for less than what you were quoted, taking care of 2008 servers, exchange, security, web site, etc, etc.

They can probably hire an ITT grad with $24,000+ in student loans who may bang on it for a few months or a year, then they will be gone. Very likely to be a series of people going through that job, at that rate, and they will be in a constant state of re-acting to everything, I suspect.

But the job they sent you doesn't sound like there would be much if any admin work, so perhaps they farm all their server stuff out. More like just putting content on web pages and the like, maybe some basic HTML and CSS, no database. Probably need to have good spelling, decent grammar. Also appears they deal with customers overseas and in different time zones, so it might not be too bad. Unless one has to commute 100 miles every day, then it's not enough.

[MadrasT]

21. That does not look like an IT project management job to me.

It looks like an internal marketing gig. It's website updating and communications, with some file clerky doc control built in.

The $17/hr compensation is on the low end for that but it isn't ridiculous.

I am a corporate project manager who has managed big I.T. projects, and the things listed are only a *fraction* of what I am responsible for.

[lumberjack_jeff]

25. "Degree in IT and social media" Seriously?

You don't need a college degree to run Wordpress and Facebook.

[antigop]

32. kick nt