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napkinz

(17,199 posts)
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 03:51 PM Aug 2013

Jesus Would Favor The Second Amendment?






August 8, 2013
by Mario Piperni


It just gets crazier and crazier and never more so as when a passion for guns and religion finds a home in the same sick mind.

Gordon Klingenschmitt is a former Navy chaplain and here’s what he had to say to his conservative internet audience.

“I think Jesus would favor the Second Amendment. This is my opinion, that the Holy Spirit would allow the citizens to protect themselves rather than delegating that to a government to go out arm themselves against the citizens in the name of protecting the citizens. ... If you don’t have a gun, I’m telling you as a Christian chaplain, sell your clothes and buy a gun. It’s time. The government persecution will be coming against you and you need to arm yourselves and defend your family when that time comes.”

Question: If you sold your clothes to purchase a gun, how would you carry a concealed weapon?

Question 2: How insane does a person need to be to believe ...

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Jesus Would Favor The Second Amendment? (Original Post) napkinz Aug 2013 OP
Obscene n/t hlthe2b Aug 2013 #1
Klingenshmitt just proves the old saying COLGATE4 Aug 2013 #2
The schmitt doesn't fall far from the klingen. nt nyquil_man Aug 2013 #6
Another fundamental basic truism. nt COLGATE4 Aug 2013 #13
Horrible! Jesus was a man of peace. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #3
The NRA's take on it is ... napkinz Aug 2013 #9
I am reminded when they came to arrest Jesus, Peter cut off the ear of the slave of the high priest. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #11
You would think that with the ability to smite, the christian gods would not msanthrope Aug 2013 #4
I find that offensive Orrex Aug 2013 #22
Thor has a hammer....given the circumstances of his death, msanthrope Aug 2013 #25
Is this the Jesus who was executed by the government and did nothing to defend himself? nt nyquil_man Aug 2013 #5
Interesting point there. freshwest Aug 2013 #7
Good point! hrmjustin Aug 2013 #8
spot on! napkinz Aug 2013 #10
This is the same Jesus who said Skidmore Aug 2013 #23
Ah, primaried by the Tea Party. nyquil_man Aug 2013 #24
Oh damn MFrohike Aug 2013 #33
From my reading of the bible it seems Jesus was more obsessed with swords. n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2013 #12
LoL. This is bad.... (NSFW) PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #14
I seem to remember Jesus saying something exactly the opposite NuclearDem Aug 2013 #15
Republican Jesus ... napkinz Aug 2013 #16
Guns ARE a religion. 99Forever Aug 2013 #17
Sure seems that way Populist_Prole Aug 2013 #30
That is some seriously sick shit. (nt) Paladin Aug 2013 #18
The "Jesus would do X" argument is inherently dishonest Taitertots Aug 2013 #19
Can you imagine those at a pro-gun rally naked? KinMd Aug 2013 #20
You can have my concealed gun pintobean Aug 2013 #21
This belongs in the religion forum. NT Trillo Aug 2013 #26
this is more about guns and the crazy thinking of the far right napkinz Aug 2013 #27
It's Luke 22:36 Recursion Aug 2013 #28
All that stuff about turning the other cheek? LostOne4Ever Aug 2013 #29
WWJS? meow2u3 Aug 2013 #31
Well, He did turn a pistol into an AR-15 KamaAina Aug 2013 #32
The American evangelical version of Christianity is practically unrecognizable from the original. reformist2 Aug 2013 #34
perhaps we need a CLIFFS NOTES edition of the Far-Right's version of the Bible napkinz Aug 2013 #35
died for the right ... napkinz Aug 2013 #36
What part of Thou Shalt not kill rustydog Aug 2013 #37
would Jesus drive an Impalla, or a Crown Vic? markiv Aug 2013 #38
I think he'd drive a TESLA. hughee99 Aug 2013 #40
He THINKS Jesus would favor the second Amendment, but being a "christian chaplain" he KNOWS hughee99 Aug 2013 #39
 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
11. I am reminded when they came to arrest Jesus, Peter cut off the ear of the slave of the high priest.
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 04:17 PM
Aug 2013

Jesus said put your swords away. He who lives by the sword dies by the sword. Jesus restored the man's ear.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
4. You would think that with the ability to smite, the christian gods would not
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 03:56 PM
Aug 2013

need additional weaponry.

Personally, given his actions against the moneychangers at the Temple, and the fact that he fucked up an olive tree just because it had no fruit for him, I would definitely support a 5-day-deity-waiting period for Jesus.

Maybe he can borrow some lightening bolts from Zeus?

Orrex

(63,210 posts)
22. I find that offensive
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 11:30 AM
Aug 2013

Thor is the go-to god for lightning bolts.

However, Zeus is the god of choice for golden showers.


Mysterious ways.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
25. Thor has a hammer....given the circumstances of his death,
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 08:19 AM
Aug 2013

ought not JC to avoid such weapon-wielding others?

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
23. This is the same Jesus who said
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 11:32 AM
Aug 2013

"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesars" and did not call for armed insurrection. This is why he was betrayed by a Zealot.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
15. I seem to remember Jesus saying something exactly the opposite
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 06:20 PM
Aug 2013

Something about those who live by the sword...

Also something about the appropriate response to getting slapped on the cheek

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
17. Guns ARE a religion.
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 10:41 AM
Aug 2013

In case you hadn't noticed.

They are also a fetish.

And a sign of cowardice and mental illness.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
30. Sure seems that way
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 02:11 PM
Aug 2013

I enjoy recreational shooting but my long time friends have gone full tilt right wing over the gun issue the past half-dozen years. It's all they ever talk about. I can hardly stand to be around them anymore.

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
19. The "Jesus would do X" argument is inherently dishonest
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 11:05 AM
Aug 2013

With the limited exception for things that (according to holy texts) were done or said by Jesus.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
27. this is more about guns and the crazy thinking of the far right
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 01:53 PM
Aug 2013

There are several issues here; it's not just about religion. We're talking politics, guns, AND religion.


Recursion

(56,582 posts)
28. It's Luke 22:36
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 01:59 PM
Aug 2013
31 “Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift all of you as wheat. 32 But I have prayed for you, Simon, that your faith may not fail. And when you have turned back, strengthen your brothers.”

33 But he replied, “Lord, I am ready to go with you to prison and to death.”

34 Jesus answered, “I tell you, Peter, before the rooster crows today, you will deny three times that you know me.”

35 Then Jesus asked them, “When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?”

“Nothing,” they answered.

36 He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. 37 It is written: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors’; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment.”

38 The disciples said, “See, Lord, here are two swords.”

“That’s enough!” he replied.


I'd add that Biblical scholars have many, many theories about the meaning of this passage, few of which involve suggesting people actually buy physical weapons.

LostOne4Ever

(9,288 posts)
29. All that stuff about turning the other cheek?
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 01:59 PM
Aug 2013

OBVIOUSLY Yeshua didn't mean any of it....because the GoP and the NRA told me so.

rustydog

(9,186 posts)
37. What part of Thou Shalt not kill
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 10:44 PM
Aug 2013

do these circle-jerking, small penis syndrome morons not understand.

They actually are saying Jesus "effing Christ himself would support the 2nd Amendment!!!
The right to have a weapon in your home designed solely to kill.
Dumb fucking goobers.

 

markiv

(1,489 posts)
38. would Jesus drive an Impalla, or a Crown Vic?
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 10:56 PM
Aug 2013

they used to ask 'what would Jesus drive'? and i figured it had to be one of the two

any thoughts on which?

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
40. I think he'd drive a TESLA.
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 11:07 PM
Aug 2013

Maybe this one.


His bumper sticker would read "Jesus HAS the wheel!"

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
39. He THINKS Jesus would favor the second Amendment, but being a "christian chaplain" he KNOWS
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 11:04 PM
Aug 2013

that they frown on nudity. Why would you do something you KNOW your religion opposes in support of something you THINK your spiritual inspiration might support?

Besides, I don't know exactly what a gun sells for, but I'm sure it's more than the value of the "used clothing" on my back and I'm sure someone will call the cops on me while I'm walking home from purchasing one, naked and armed.

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