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BERLIN (AP) Two of Germany's biggest Internet service providers say they will encrypt customers' emails by default following reports that the U.S. National Security Agency monitors international electronic communications.
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Yes, the NSA can decrypt encrypted emails. | |
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No, the NSA cannot decrypt encrypted emails. | |
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I don't know. | |
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I know, but I don't want to share. | |
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Gingers don't have souls. | |
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Goats are sexy and I want to marry one when I grow up. | |
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If I owned a catapult, I would finally be able to conquer Tennessee. | |
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I get anxiety when the phone rings, because that means I either have to talk with someone, or snub someone. | |
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When I was 13 years old, my mother told me that punching a horse in the face was good luck. | |
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If I only had one week to live, I would spend it watching Toddlers & Tiaras. | |
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NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)If they want to, they can probably decrypt a few of the messages they come across.
If they are inside the encryption companies, they can probably read all messages encrypted by those companies.
But can is quite different from do. I think they can't and I think they don't.
dimbear
(6,271 posts)Basic rule of encryption.
neverforget
(9,436 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)If a person knows what they are doing, then I would vote NO. They can not decrypt the email.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)I mean, given enough time anybody could. But they can't do it in anything like real time or on anything like a large scale.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)There was a thread on another post going over the numbers. They could not do it without physically taking the key from your possession. They could not crack it.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)I'm assuming they have the kind of known plaintexts that you normally use for stuff like this.
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)And even through brute force alone, super computers could crack a 64 bit encryption in just a couple days. I am nearly certain your email is not that secure.
nebenaube
(3,496 posts)There's a shiny black building that contains something that acts like a billion crays all linked together.
Sgent
(5,857 posts)which is a bit harder than it sounds.
They can however look at meta-data much as in phone calls.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Punch a horse for me.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)Dang.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)backscatter712
(26,355 posts)When they go to the ISP, they'll simply give them a National Security Letter and take the decryption key.
If you encrypt yourself with something like GnuPG, it'll be much harder.
Rex
(65,616 posts)ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)They have no reason to use their ginger magic against me.
Rex
(65,616 posts)They are now focused on him and not you.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)Given a focus on a specific person and some time, yes.
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)If encryption was the norm it would be quite difficult to handle
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)And you had best compile your own code too.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Even compiling your own code isn't always enough...
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)I suppose there's always Pig Latin.
millennialmax
(331 posts)1-Old-Man
(2,667 posts)None actually. People just don't understand.
ProdigalJunkMail
(12,017 posts)AES256 allows for 1.1X10^77 permutations. With a computer operating at 10 pFLOPS it would take 3.3X10^56 years to explore all the combinations. That's to break ONE key...
they have to have something else to work with. do they have a fancy higher math that makes this process shorter? maybe, but the thing is, the whizzes over at the NSA and CIA aren't the only smart people around. our gov't relies on classified and unclassified encryption algorithms to protect their conversations but they are all based on the same concepts. if they trust them to protect THEIR data, then you KNOW breaking those keys in nigh-on impossible.
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PopeOxycontinI
(176 posts)it's a matter of math. 2 to the power of the length of your key. So, up to a certain key length, like maybe 128bit tops.
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)Snowden supposedly gave him eleventy million different pages worth of documents, maybe that was one of them.
If he gives you a response ask him if we could see the evidence as well. Maybe we'llget lucky & it will actually be a document in it's entirety.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)These guys would have no reason to shut down if they could.
Poll results on this are a perfect example of all the woo on this subject.
OMG THE NSA CAN READ MY BRAIN!
nebenaube
(3,496 posts)That nut has been cracked.